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Chew Baca and wookies in general are ageless elf types but cooler. They have claws but using them is culturally unacceptable because it makes them no better than the animals they hunt on kashyyk. They have a whole culture around they're superiority over nature and purposefully try to live their lives as good stewards of trees and poo poo. But rival clans keep selling Wookies into slavery (a running theme in the series) ruining their culture and their ability to fight against with oppression.
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Turtlicious posted:Yo I just watched a new hope and there are a ton of jokes. Obi wan looking at Han like he's full of poo poo, Han loving with Luke about being into Leia, Leia being a poo poo to everyone it's actually a lot of jokes that are funny when you're super high episode iv is a comedy "Do you think a princess and a guy like me..?" "No"  "Captain, being held by you isn't quite enough to get me excited" "Sorry your highness, I haven't got time for anything else" 
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A) A vest friend must be close indeed; B) Both Wookies and Mon Cal live to be centuries old according to what I remember from 19 years ago the last time I cared about the EU 
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Jan 8, 2018 23:17
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make the millenium falcon great again speaking of, with all the fan service towards the falcon in TLJ it would be cool to have some tie pilots not chase it into a tiny tunnel, canyon or space station service channel.
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Jan 8, 2018 23:17
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My ultimate Star Wars film is just An Officer and a Gentleman but it takes place on Mon Cal and every character is a gaping mouthed fish person
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Jan 8, 2018 23:19
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The problem with the jokes in TLJ isnt that Star Wars is some solemn, respectable affair, it's that the spoken jokes are all terribly unfunny and delivered badly. Conversely the physical humor with Luke ditching the lightsaber, or smoke making it smack Rey in the back of the head, actually works
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Jan 8, 2018 23:20
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bushisms.txt posted:Snoke is as powerful as the emperor and is deep in Ben at that moment. And the thought is a flash, and he regrets it. Maybe you should watch the movie again, and not just Kylo's flashback. And how would Luke not have a deeper connection, and therefore reaction, to Ben, who he watched grow up and train, compared to his "relationship" with the monster that used to be his dad? There is no indication he is "as powerful as the emperor", that's just conjecture on your part. And there's a big difference between having a thought occur to you, and pull out your saber and ignite it, just like it's a big difference from thinking of shooting your nephew in the face, and pulling out a gun, cocking it, removing the safety and aim it at his face. And your second point contradicts your whole argument. Of course he has a closer bond to Kylo than he did his father, which is why it's so bizarre he tried to murder him in his sleep. And for the love of god: bushisms.txt posted:Snoke.. is deep in Ben at that moment. Phrasing!
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:A) A vest friend must be close indeed; B) Both Wookies and Mon Cal live to be centuries old according to what I remember from 19 years ago the last time I cared about the EU All wookies Are murdered to dearth. Whether by the ducked up giant hellscape that is kashyyk, other rival wookies, or imperial murdering them not one wookie died of old age. Their like tortoises from space Australia.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:A) A vest friend must be close indeed; B) Both Wookies and Mon Cal live to be centuries old according to what I remember from 19 years ago the last time I cared about the EU Chewbacc' don't crack
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Jan 8, 2018 23:23
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Jan 8, 2018 23:24
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My prediction: SOLO will get between a 70-80 critics score on rotten tomatoes 1 week after premiere. It will have a higher fan rating than TLJ at time of writing (50%)
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Jan 9, 2018 00:21
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Probably who knows what people like ice heard there are people who don't like 6 of the 10 star wars movies like really?!
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Jan 9, 2018 00:26
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Benicio Del Toro's character told the Imper- sorry, First Orderers- about the rebel transports heading for the planet. But how did he know about the rebel transports heading for the planet? I don't remember Finn and Rose telling him (I admit I could have missed this, but the friend I saw the movie with also didn't catch it), and they don't seem like they really trusted him beyond his part of their mission.
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Jan 9, 2018 01:50
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FuturePastNow posted:Benicio Del Toro's character told the Imper- sorry, First Orderers- about the rebel transports heading for the planet. But how did he know about the rebel transports heading for the planet? I don't remember Finn and Rose telling him (I admit I could have missed this, but the friend I saw the movie with also didn't catch it), and they don't seem like they really trusted him beyond his part of their mission. I think they gave DJ enough information to hack the Resistance fleet, and he took what he needed.
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Jan 9, 2018 01:52
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Farchanter posted:I think they gave DJ enough information to hack the Resistance fleet, and he took what he needed. If that's the case then the movie should have shown it or said it. He obviously needed physical access to hack Snoke's dreadnought, and he was never on a Resistance ship.
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There's a scene where Finn and Rose are talking to Poe about the transports and it's shown that's he's overhearing it. The FO then later say, "We checked his info and ran a de-cloaking scan and found them." What he wasn't explicitly shown figuring out, was that they were cloaked. We don't see him giving the info to the FO, so we don't know if he figured the cloak out or if the FO figured out that they might need a de-cloaking scan to find them. Either way he knew about the transports and told the FO, and at some point someone determined a de-cloaking scan should be run. He cloaked them earlier though to get on the ship, so I'm guess he guessed the Resistance would do that too. The Finn/Rose storyline was seemingly the one that got the most deleted out of it, so there might be something in the deleted scenes about it.
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Jan 9, 2018 02:24
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Maybe cloaked vessels are only invisible to typical radar scans an such. The First Order folks would probably have been overconfident that the Resistance is destroyed after vaporizing the ship, and would have missed the shuttles slinking away with the explosion/debris field between them and the First Order.
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Jan 9, 2018 02:40
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FuturePastNow posted:If that's the case then the movie should have shown it or said it. He obviously needed physical access to hack Snoke's dreadnought, and he was never on a Resistance ship. I would have been nice but- a) it probably would have telegraphed his double-cross too much, and b) if the last cut was down to that or Luke milking the monster titty they 100% made the right choice
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Jan 9, 2018 02:55
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FuturePastNow posted:If that's the case then the movie should have shown it or said it. He obviously needed physical access to hack Snoke's dreadnought, and he was never on a Resistance ship. He overheard about the transports, and while he didn't know they were cloaked that we saw it seems easy enough for him to infer it when the FO see nothing.
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FuturePastNow posted:Benicio Del Toro's character told the Imper- sorry, First Orderers- about the rebel transports heading for the planet. But how did he know about the rebel transports heading for the planet? I don't remember Finn and Rose telling him (I admit I could have missed this, but the friend I saw the movie with also didn't catch it), and they don't seem like they really trusted him beyond his part of their mission. Finn made a phone call like three feet away from him, he could listen in just fine
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Jan 9, 2018 03:15
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I Before E posted:Finn made a phone call like three feet away from him, he could listen in just fine They literally cut to his reaction as Poe tells Finn about the ships.
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Ammanas posted:There's no reason this has to be the case, it's a cynical decision by the film makers and studio to retread worn paths. The frustrating part is their decision is wildly paying off, they've recouped their LucasArts purchase a couple times over already. The reason this has to be a case because people like constant bombastic CGI spectacles. Like, it shouldn't be that way but you know it will be. Every side story is going to somehow link into the main series and galactic conflict between the Empire/Rebellion and all variations in between. I'd like smaller intimate stories of no name characters that have no stake in either side but they're just living in this lovely, hosed up universe. I remember someone saying something about the Solo film and how it should be a prison break feature or something along those lines, but it's Han Solo so you know it's tied up with both parties. I'd be down with a survival film, bank heist, fuckin' give me space spy/espionage poo poo. I want to see the life of a bounty hunter that isn't Boba Fett, or a Smuggler that's playing Jabba and another crime lord a la Fist Full of Dollars. There's so much they can do with Star Wars but they never will.
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FuturePastNow posted:Benicio Del Toro's character told the Imper- sorry, First Orderers- about the rebel transports heading for the planet. But how did he know about the rebel transports heading for the planet? I don't remember Finn and Rose telling him (I admit I could have missed this, but the friend I saw the movie with also didn't catch it), and they don't seem like they really trusted him beyond his part of their mission. Poe contacted them about Holdo abandoning ship and he was telling Finn to hurry back before the mutiny. DJ was listening in and that may have even been the same scene that he asked Rose’s medallion.
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ship the drat IG-88 movie u fuckers
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Smythe posted:ship the drat IG-88 movie u fuckers It could be a 90minute prison break film that largely takes place over the span of 3 seconds.
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Okay. I guess I just missed that scene. Probably scraping popcorn residue out of the bucket.
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s.i.r.e. posted:The reason this has to be a case because people like constant bombastic CGI spectacles. Like, it shouldn't be that way but you know it will be. Every side story is going to somehow link into the main series and galactic conflict between the Empire/Rebellion and all variations in between. I'd like smaller intimate stories of no name characters that have no stake in either side but they're just living in this lovely, hosed up universe. I remember someone saying something about the Solo film and how it should be a prison break feature or something along those lines, but it's Han Solo so you know it's tied up with both parties. I'd be down with a survival film, bank heist, fuckin' give me space spy/espionage poo poo. I want to see the life of a bounty hunter that isn't Boba Fett, or a Smuggler that's playing Jabba and another crime lord a la Fist Full of Dollars. There's so much they can do with Star Wars but they never will. Why deviate from the Marvel formula of jokes, one or two heartfelt moments, and giant CGI spectacles? It won't last forever but it's printed money so far.
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KaptainKrunk posted:It won't last forever 
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KaptainKrunk posted:Why deviate from the Marvel formula of jokes, one or two heartfelt moments, and giant CGI spectacles? Because.....  It'd be nice if film makers tried to do interesting ideas.
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"Interesting" is vague and subjective.
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s.i.r.e. posted:Because..... This is a billion dollar business you hippie. You think people are choosing where to drill for oil or manufacture iPhones based on ideas about what’s interesting or what makes a good story?
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I don't normally give any credence to SMG's insane ramblings, but I think these sequel movies have retroactively made him right. Since the new movies are all corporate committee "franchise" films now, everything he said about the characters endlessly repeating the failures of the past is now true, since Disney will never let the story be anything but Rebels vs. Empire.
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Smythe posted:ship the drat IG-88 movie u fuckers It better be about IG-88's rise to fame as the Slam Dunk Champion of Coruscant or someshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ILKMR-xq2M&t=80s
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KaptainKrunk posted:Why deviate from the Marvel formula of jokes, one or two heartfelt moments, and giant CGI spectacles? Well I mean it's just the personification of what summer blockbusters have always been, and they've been around....boy howdy a long time. So saying that 'formula' will dry up is like saying that summer blockbusters themselves will stop being a thing. No, they really won't. They are basically the only reason people go to the movies anymore, because if it's not some big spectacle why not stay home and watch it on Netflix?
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Mulva posted:Well I mean it's just the personification of what summer blockbusters have always been, and they've been around....boy howdy a long time. So saying that 'formula' will dry up is like saying that summer blockbusters themselves will stop being a thing. No, they really won't. They are basically the only reason people go to the movies anymore, because if it's not some big spectacle why not stay home and watch it on Netflix? I think Jaws is generally considered the first blockbuster film, but some would point to a slightly later film called "Star Wars."
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Gone With The Wind, Ben-Hur and The Ten Commandments were blockbusters decades before Jaws.
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Gone with the Wind is literally just taking a recently popular novel with big fights and romance and throwing attractive leads and a shitload of money at it, it absolutely is a blockbuster film in the modern sense. And that was nearly 80 years ago. That is not a formula that will ever fail. Attractive people blowing poo poo up and maybe going for some make outs, it sells.
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McCloud posted:There is no indication he is "as powerful as the emperor", that's just conjecture on your part. And there's a big difference between having a thought occur to you, and pull out your saber and ignite it, just like it's a big difference from thinking of shooting your nephew in the face, and pulling out a gun, cocking it, removing the safety and aim it at his face. He uses force lightning at a blink and can manipulate people from a star system away, he's no slouch in the force. And you're getting very semantic when the movie shows and tells you it was a fleeting thought that any Jedi would have when seeing the future and everything they love destroyed. My second was that you were romanticising his relationship to Vader to wave away why he had an extended fight with him, all the while stating his actions in this weren't natural growth, when him being unflinching in that moment would also be considered a flaw. quote:And for the love of god:
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PostNouveau posted:WSJ wrote a Last Jedi article so ...
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TildeATH posted:This is a billion dollar business you hippie. You think people are choosing where to drill for oil or manufacture iPhones based on ideas about what’s interesting or what makes a good story? Well those things aren't artistic but I get it, Star Wars is always going to sell and it's never going to deviate from the stagnant formula and I hate life.
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