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| Verity Lambert |
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30 | 15.31% |
| Barry Letts |
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7 | 3.57% |
| Phillip Hinchcliffe |
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32 | 16.33% |
| John Nathan-Turner |
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6 | 3.06% |
| Russell T Davies |
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33 | 16.84% |
| Steven Moffat |
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50 | 25.51% |
| Chris Chibnall (I am from the future) |
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38 | 19.39% |
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Again, I hope Gatiss goes away for good. He's insufferable.
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corn in the bible posted:Again, I hope Gatiss goes away for good. He's insufferable. 
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Jan 8, 2018 11:06
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Now Sam Kisgart, on the other hand...
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Jan 8, 2018 11:07
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I like Gatiss a lot but I'm looking forward to a complete change of writing team, even if I'm not a huge Chibnall fan. Has there been a list of confirmed writers for the next series anywhere yet?
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Jan 8, 2018 11:14
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PriorMarcus posted:We've already seen the Doctor dread his final regeneration, knowing that he will die next time, and that's Five's 
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Jan 8, 2018 12:28
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Appreciate the attempt but that would have been Four and he seemed very accepting of it.
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Jan 8, 2018 12:31
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Dabir posted:Appreciate the attempt but that would have been Four and he seemed very accepting of it. Oh right, yes, misread. Well we had all that business with the Watcher
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Jan 8, 2018 12:41
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That's pretty perfectly 4 too. "Who the gently caress is that rear end in a top hat up there watching me with sinister intent?" Goes up and has a chat "It's cool it's just the chrysalis form of my next life waiting for me to die  "
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Jan 8, 2018 12:47
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I just remembered that a big chunk of the universe got destroyed in 'Logopolis', but everyone was pretty chill with it (even Nyssa as her home and everyone she ever knew was wiped from existence), so whevs, I guess.
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Jan 8, 2018 14:44
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Between that and having to regularly meet her father’s reanimated corpse, Nyssa was very tough.
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Jan 8, 2018 14:52
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Jerusalem posted:That's pretty perfectly 4 too. Now look here, Master, I've been waiting to die all day, de-collapsing the Universe and climbing all over the towers, and not once, not even once has anybody even offered me a chair!
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Jan 8, 2018 15:17
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I grabbed Shada on blu-ray, and am now wondering what the consensus was on the animated The Power Of The Daleks?
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Jan 8, 2018 16:38
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It was lovely.
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Jan 8, 2018 16:45
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Gaz-L posted:I grabbed Shada on blu-ray, and am now wondering what the consensus was on the animated The Power Of The Daleks? Fantastic, all time great serial that is untouchable and truly remarkable Sadly this is the best it's ever going to get! (I try to be kind to the animation team, they were literally given half a year and no budget to pull that whole thing together, even though it's still sub Archer level animation)
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Jan 8, 2018 16:46
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There's a line in it very early where Ben says "Right who are we then?" and Two snaps back with "Don't you know?" and it just hits that perfect Troughtan note.
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Jan 8, 2018 17:09
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I like the animation style. It suits 2 , somehow, and it suits Daleks . There are a couple scenes where the animation execution is total garbage, though.
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Jan 8, 2018 17:09
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Incidentally, I got the steelbook version of Shada because it has a third disc featuring the old VHS version and the Big Finish version of the story, but it hurts me because it's now the only classic story I have that doesn't match the covers of the others.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:11
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Bicyclops posted:Now look here, Master 
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Jan 8, 2018 19:15
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Stabbatical posted:Hey, there's a new review of the Christmas special out by the guy who did that Sherlock/Moffat retrospective. I feel like he didn't give this seasons political bent enough credit, and it's odd that he didn't talk about the sexism at all. And he forgot totally about the paternoster gang and river song when trying to remember Moffat characters. But the thing about this episode having no stakes was something I had noticed but not really articulated. And yeah, contrasting it to end of time made things worse. It's not like they could not do that this episode. Explain what Testimony is supposed to be early, but there's something wrong with it, and then that's what the doctor had to figure out and why he uses the dalek database and all that. Like, there all sorts of potential things that could go wrong with time travelling abducting robots. You don't NEED a villain, just an error.
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Jan 8, 2018 20:49
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There was an error. And there were stakes. Please don't tell me the guy in the video was mad because there wasn't an evil villain threatening the universe in the episode
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Jan 8, 2018 21:03
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Cerv posted:Also that’s 3 in a row of I don’t want to regenerate then the TARDIS blows up. Change the tune please. Technically, when Smith actually regenerated it was a bit more of a hiccup followed by him not knowing how to work the TARDIS. Though he did have his Dalek-destroying episode prior to that. And the First Doctor's regeneration was fairly quiet. As far as I can tell, one of the driving factors is the new showrunner wanting a new TARDIS set and blowing it up forcing the powers that be to provide the funding for it. Payndz posted:I just remembered that a big chunk of the universe got destroyed in 'Logopolis', but everyone was pretty chill with it (even Nyssa as her home and everyone she ever knew was wiped from existence), so whevs, I guess. You can't expect Nyssa to get as upset about that as about, say, Adric's death. After all, nobody who died on Traken was a series regular!
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Jan 8, 2018 21:05
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What are the thoughts on Jodie's costume now some new pics are out? Thumbs up from me I think - it's got a vibe of six and five in a way, it's going to look great on a comic page and on an action figure!
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Jan 8, 2018 21:21
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2house2fly posted:There was an error. And there were stakes. Please don't tell me the guy in the video was mad because there wasn't an evil villain threatening the universe in the episode What actually was the error? Was it supposed to be that both Doctors met when they didn't before? Or was it that One didn't want to regenerate and this messes up the universe? Or was the stake meant to be Twelve accepting or not accepting another life? Hemingway To Go! posted:I feel like he didn't give this seasons political bent enough credit, and it's odd that he didn't talk about the sexism at all. To be fair, I think it is just meant to be about the Xmas special and not the last series as a whole (even though it's meant to be a comment on Moffat's run as a whole which makes things kind of confused, now that I think about it). But true, I thought last season was really good and it deserved more of a mention than just what was poorly executed in Capaldi's first series. I guess the Gang count but they kind of outstayed their welcome for me by Deep Breath. I think it was the bit where Vastra started speech #94 about how important The Doctor is and also, as I remember it, the weird excuse they gave for Jenny and Vastra's kiss (the line was something like "I can store air in my lungs") instead of just going whole hog having them have a romantic moment in the face of certain death. Maybe I'm horribly misremembering that scene. I definitely never enjoyed them as much as RTD's crew. Strax was always fun but he's a one-note gag and little else. But those are the only other characters I can really think of to bring back. Except Danny maybe, I liked him. He could've even been thematically appropriate considering the whole ex-soldier thing and being in WW1's truce.
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Jan 8, 2018 21:30
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The Doctor trying to die twice in one lifetime caused a "timeline error" which plopped the Captain out into their proximity when he was being taken to die. In the end they saved him, so things were still better for the Doctor being involved.Stabbatical posted:weird excuse they gave for Jenny and Vastra's kiss (the line was something like "I can store air in my lungs") instead of just going whole hog having them have a romantic moment in the face of certain death.
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Jan 8, 2018 21:46
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Stabbatical posted:What actually was the error? When the Testimony was done with the soldier they picked up at the end of his life to scan, he was supposed to be sent back to the moment of his death but ended up in the South Pole in 1986 instead, because the presence of the two Doctors there caused a road-bump in the time stream.
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Jan 8, 2018 23:35
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trouser_mouse posted:What are the thoughts on Jodie's costume now some new pics are out? I don't like the high-waisted capris. Other than that it looks good.
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Jan 9, 2018 01:24
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Thinking the reason I am loving watching Doctor Who after finally first watching a few random episodes with my brother years ago and starting from the revival this year is probably due to loving stuff like Buffy and Angel. I see repeated the revival took a lot of cues from Buffy which I can easily see, and I always loved that type of archtype. I mean heck, I enjoyed the awful Smallville back when it was airing, even through I stopped watching that after a few seasons. Bad effects and poor CGI is just a staple of these types of shows and I just love it. If the new season isn't up by the time I am done with the Revival, would it be bad to try watching the original serials? I doubt that I could watch them all, especially with the sheer number of lost episodes, but at least the good ones. I almost grabbed at the library today a few dvds of the older episodes but figured they wouldn't get watched at this time while still watching the revival.
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Jan 9, 2018 06:16
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There are tons of fantastic older series episodes worth watching, though I would advise against binging them. They're a product of another time, and stories take 4-7 30 minute episodes to resolve with frequent padding. Watch one episode of each story per day over the course of a week to avoid comparative burnout, IMHO.
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Jan 9, 2018 06:19
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DoctorWhat posted:There are tons of fantastic older series episodes worth watching, though I would advise against binging them. They're a product of another time, and stories take 4-7 30 minute episodes to resolve with frequent padding. Watch one episode of each story per day over the course of a week to avoid comparative burnout, IMHO. Yeah I noticed that part in the OP. Still a while before if I do that, as I just finished season 2 off of the Revival.
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Jan 9, 2018 06:20
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TinTower posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiKrZdJXQ14 This man is to be pitied. He is so terribly angry that he isn't what society has told him he needs to be, and he needs a victim to point at to deflect, and that victim is women. And honestly, I go back and forth on this stuff, because while I do believe that's the reaction we should have to these people, it also might be too nice. Everybody who's done something bad had a reason. We don't forgive all of them because of the circumstances, but, I mean, c'mon. Doctor Who thread. What's the use of two hearts if you can't be forgiving (and understanding?) But just... come on. I don't know what to do with this fella', but I do know that patriarchy is a real fucker. Even to men. And it leads people into extremely wrongheaded gobshite. And I don't know whether to be angry or empathetic, but I do know I'm sad. I mean, can you imagine being so insecure about your place in the world that a woman being a doctor is threatening to you? That sounds like hell on Earth. Also, hi, Hbomb. We know you're a goon, and I suspect you're here some late night in the future to see what this thread thought of your video, and though I loved the special for very personal reasons, I also thought your video was quite good, and agreed with all of your points. And as an internet friend of Shannon's, I can't wait to see you two collaborate again. The bit about Moffat writing three different libraries of dead people was particularly astute. I super didn't notice that until you pointed it out. Now I kind of wish this episode took place in The Library.
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Jan 9, 2018 06:59
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LividLiquid posted:The bit about Moffat writing three different libraries of dead people was particularly astute. I super didn't notice that until you pointed it out. The 4th Moffat idea is clearly achronal timey-wimey shenanigans. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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Jan 9, 2018 07:13
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Rirse posted:Thinking the reason I am loving watching Doctor Who after finally first watching a few random episodes with my brother years ago and starting from the revival this year is probably due to loving stuff like Buffy and Angel. I see repeated the revival took a lot of cues from Buffy which I can easily see, and I always loved that type of archtype. I mean heck, I enjoyed the awful Smallville back when it was airing, even through I stopped watching that after a few seasons. There are some great old stories, particularly with TOM BAKER. But it you like bad effects and cgi then boy there are such wonders to see. Peter Davison may be lame but my God he acted with such beautifully poo poo cgi
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Jan 9, 2018 07:15
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If it makes you feel any better, LividLiquid, here's a post that summarizes this phenomenon from the comic book movie megathread:Halloween Jack posted:...the problem is that the analysis is illiterate and superficial. Just replace a few words, and voila!
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Jan 9, 2018 07:23
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Moffat's reused a bunch of ideas and concepts over the years. At least some of it is in service to thematic connections and callbacks and such, but also there are just some ideas I guess he likes enough to keep going back to them in some form. This last episode was also the third one to feature people being zapped out of time at the very end of their timestream since he took over (and Missy was doing something not too far removed in series 8) and the umpteenth to either not have a villain or the villain is benign but malfunctioning technology. He also couldn't resist one last impressive/intimidating montage of the Doctor as a badass warrior, or a last jump back in time to see or retroactively cause something from the old show. I think there was barely any timey-wimey stuff in the Capaldi years; I guess he got that pretty much out of his system by the end of the Smith era
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Jan 9, 2018 07:31
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It's like how Dark Souls has a dead, impotent king and a dessicating world in each game. Speaking of Dark Souls... Heaven Sent.
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Jan 9, 2018 07:33
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Edward Mass posted:If it makes you feel any better, LividLiquid, here's a post that summarizes this phenomenon from the comic book movie megathread:
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Jan 9, 2018 07:35
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Hahaha, the loving Kandyman is going to be in the Doom Coalition followup.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:50
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that's loving amazing
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Jan 9, 2018 10:52
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DoctorWhat posted:Speaking of Dark Souls... Heaven Sent.  I felt like such a nerd for making that comparison in my write-up, but then I remembered I was writing about Doctor Who online and the nerd train had departed a looooooooong time ago. Box of Bunnies posted:Hahaha, the loving Kandyman is going to be in the Doom Coalition followup. Oh my God I love you, Big Finish Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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Edward Mass posted:If it makes you feel any better, LividLiquid, here's a post that summarizes this phenomenon from the comic book movie megathread: I love, Red Letter Media, but let's be real. Mr. Plinkett made this.
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