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Grammar-Bolshevik
Oct 12, 2017

padijun posted:

they weren't contacted about the M4A manifesto, then when they bitched about it they get called... cops and/or mentally ill...

but also they're supposed to show up and set up a VTC system, when most chapters don't have a set of guidelines about accessibility

This reminds me of a progressive group in my area that boycotted an independent bookstore hosting community events because they didn't have a ramp or elevator to the basement where the events were held;

despite the top floor not being big enough to host events,

despite not having the money to do all that,

despite not owning the building,

WE LOVE OUR COPS

Grammar-Bolshevik fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jan 9, 2018

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Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Under the vegetable posted:

THEY didn't bitch about it. They contacted the M4A organizers and cleared it up. A bunch of loving lunatic cops on twitter bitched about it on their behalf, without asking them first.

ding ding ding

Grammar-Bolshevik
Oct 12, 2017

Skip My Posts posted:

Are you guys in the dsa?

Don't comment on the republican party unless you're a member, PLEASE

Also hope this is real:

https://imgur.com/NCQ4Wh5

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
You know you can just, like... look it up, yeah?

https://twitter.com/profwolff/status/950560704225976320

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever

Grammar-Bolshevik posted:

This reminds me of a progressive group in my area that boycotted an independent bookstore hosting community events because they didn't have a ramp or elevator to the basement where the events were held;

despite the top floor not being big enough to host events,

despite not having the money to do all that,

despite not owning the building,

WE LOVE OUR COPS

not a fair comparison but thanks for this story there's a 90% chance you just invented

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

padijun posted:

not a fair comparison but thanks for this story there's a 90% chance you just invented

lmao

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever
there was this progressive group in my area that demanded wheelchair access to the basement of small venue via the dumbwaiter... hosed up that they shut that place down... fuckin cops dude *takes long drag off cigarette*

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Skip My Posts posted:

So nobody here is even in the freakin dsa?

i'm not even in the freakin a let alone the dsa my man

New New Fresh
May 26, 2013

Felix Tube Tips

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

is it Virgil or Amber that is the dsa main

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Skip My Posts posted:

So nobody here is even in the freakin dsa?

I'm a founding member.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

The Crotch posted:

You know you can just, like... look it up, yeah?

https://twitter.com/profwolff/status/950560704225976320

Who's that?

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

prefect posted:

Who's that?

Richard D Wolff

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
The dude who wrote that kinda dubious tell-all book about the Trump WH, that was just released.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Krazyface posted:

The dude who wrote that kinda dubious tell-all book about the Trump WH, that was just released.

I don't know if this is a joke or not, but

Richard Wolff is a popular left-wing economist. The guy who wrote Fire and Fury is Michael Wolff.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

prefect posted:

Who's that?
a dude who owns

Matey
Mar 28, 2008

eat food

oddd futuree wolff gangg

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

The Crotch posted:

I don't know if this is a joke or not, but

Richard Wolff is a popular left-wing economist. The guy who wrote Fire and Fury is Michael Wolff.

Is he as awesome and dreamy as Mark Blyth?

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Matey posted:

oddd futuree wolff gangg

Grammar-Bolshevik
Oct 12, 2017

padijun posted:

not a fair comparison but thanks for this story there's a 90% chance you just invented

For the sake of not doxxing people im not gonna name drop businesses or groups whose membership is composed of people with the emotional skillsets of children, to ideologically possessed people like yourself.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/950698057972117505

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Maybe it's a bit silly, but I like this part at the end:


Finally, it's noteworthy how Nintendo survived the down years when the Wii U was failing. It had accumulated a substantial reserve to cover years of losses — as compared to the usual U.S. corporate behavior of kicking out all profits to shareholders as fast as possible. More strikingly, when revenue failed to meet expectations in 2013, company president Satoru Iwata took a voluntary pay cut of 50 percent for five months, while other executives took a 20-30 percent cut. That is poles apart from traditional American executive behavior, which is to push losses onto workers and pensions while looting as much cash out of the company while the getting is good. If Carl Icahn had been in charge of Nintendo for the last few years it would have already been stripped for parts and sold for a quick buck to Wall Street goons.


It is pretty cool that they were able to be lovely for a couple of years and then make it back into respectability.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Satoru Iwata was good and cool.

Also Nintendo has a pretty interesting history.

They're still a corporation with lots of shady poo poo under their belt. Do not fall in love with corporations.

*sighs and clutches his mini SNES*

Grammar-Bolshevik
Oct 12, 2017

prefect posted:

Maybe it's a bit silly, but I like this part at the end:


Finally, it's noteworthy how Nintendo survived the down years when the Wii U was failing. It had accumulated a substantial reserve to cover years of losses — as compared to the usual U.S. corporate behavior of kicking out all profits to shareholders as fast as possible. More strikingly, when revenue failed to meet expectations in 2013, company president Satoru Iwata took a voluntary pay cut of 50 percent for five months, while other executives took a 20-30 percent cut. That is poles apart from traditional American executive behavior, which is to push losses onto workers and pensions while looting as much cash out of the company while the getting is good. If Carl Icahn had been in charge of Nintendo for the last few years it would have already been stripped for parts and sold for a quick buck to Wall Street goons.


It is pretty cool that they were able to be lovely for a couple of years and then make it back into respectability.

There are certain parts of the Japanese business culture that are soul crushing but these parts you mentioned remind me of the basque communes after the financial crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/07/mondragon-spains-giant-cooperative

Its also cute to reflect that American business journalists were making GBS threads on German for having gradual but not impressive growth through the 90s while now they are held up as a superior model because a lot of their companies play long game with reducing worker hours an getting grants from the govt during downturns to avoid layoffs

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
Ya Nintendo ftw but also like they fired a woman because gamergate harassers found out she was moonlighting under a different name 2 pay off student loans & leaked it to em. They a company like any other.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Hat Thoughts posted:

Ya Nintendo ftw but also like they fired a woman because gamergate harassers found out she was moonlighting under a different name 2 pay off student loans & leaked it to em. They a company like any other.

That article doesn't mention that the moonlighting she was doing was porn, and the "controversial thesis" she wrote was literally in defense of child porn.

I mean, yeah, that was only discovered because the Gamergate started digging into her past because of some wierd controversy about the translation of Fire Emblem, but that doesn't mean that Nintendo wasn't completely right to not want her associated with their products.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Guy Goodbody posted:

That article doesn't mention that the moonlighting she was doing was porn, and the "controversial thesis" she wrote was literally in defense of child porn.

I mean, yeah, that was only discovered because the Gamergate started digging into her past because of some wierd controversy about the translation of Fire Emblem, but that doesn't mean that Nintendo wasn't completely right to not want her associated with their products.

Sex work is not a crime. Also she had literally argued for keeping the stuff they where mad about Nintendo removing in the US version lol.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

Guy Goodbody posted:

That article doesn't mention that the moonlighting she was doing was porn, and the "controversial thesis" she wrote was literally in defense of child porn.

I mean, yeah, that was only discovered because the Gamergate started digging into her past because of some wierd controversy about the translation of Fire Emblem, but that doesn't mean that Nintendo wasn't completely right to not want her associated with their products.
The thesis is extremely stupid & i think if that was their justification id feel more comfortable with it but Nintendo specifically stated
""Alison Rapp was terminated due to violation of an internal company policy involving holding a second job in conflict with Nintendo's corporate culture,"
& when it comes 2 "the moonlighting she was doing was porn" I don't think anything about being a sex worker changes the context of the situation

Hat Thoughts fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Jan 9, 2018

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Basically never capitulate to gamergaters.

Hit them with hammers instead.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
There's nothing wrong with being a sex worker but unfortunately that's not a widely held position. I really think it's not unreasonable in the current cultural climate for a children's toy company to decide that they don't want their literal spokesperson to be a sex worker.

If you criticism of Nintendo is that they aren't doing enough to normalize sex work, I think that's a little silly.

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010
lol at all you broke-brained idiots taking that article seriously

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

Guy Goodbody posted:

There's nothing wrong with being a sex worker but unfortunately that's not a widely held position. I really think it's not unreasonable in the current cultural climate for a children's toy company to decide that they don't want their literal spokesperson to be a sex worker.

If you criticism of Nintendo is that they aren't doing enough to normalize sex work, I think that's a little silly.

Ya man, when im sayin any company is obv goin to prioritize corporate interests over those of the worker & this is an example of that what i rly mean is Nintendo should be a sex work advocacy group...reading comprehension ftw

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Nintendo should be more positive toward sex work, since one of their pre-video game ventures was a chain of love hotels.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Guy Goodbody posted:

There's nothing wrong with being a sex worker but unfortunately that's not a widely held position. I really think it's not unreasonable in the current cultural climate for a children's toy company to decide that they don't want their literal spokesperson to be a sex worker.

If you criticism of Nintendo is that they aren't doing enough to normalize sex work, I think that's a little silly.

Nobody is saying that, we are just pointing out that the inclusive and woman friendly gamergate movement sent 10000 tweets a day to Nintendo and outed her as a sex worker for the crime being a female employed by them.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Anime Nazis got an Anime Lady fired from a company they worship because they assumed any woman would hate them lol

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
4chan losers doing BSDM on their own minds and getting their wimpy little brains all hot on shame and fear so they can blast cum at a chirping anime creature, tears streaming down their face

Serf
May 5, 2011


rapp literally argued in favor of including the stupid poo poo the gamergaters want in their video games and they still got her fired because they assumed the woman on the treehouse team was responsible for "censorship" of sexualized pre-teens

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Gamers are bad.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Sandweed posted:

Gamers are bad.

Please don't post this crap until after the Texas-Christman debate.

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Serf
May 5, 2011


matt will handily defeat virgil but i'm still gonna play video games

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