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So as someone who sat out Civil War II, who did worse poo poo? Tony or Carol?
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Jan 9, 2018 12:12
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Lots of talk about Nixon killing himself, but none about Reagan ending his term an ambiguous snake-man? Tut tut. Also the Gold Skull from the first arc of U.S.Avengers was a pretty transparent Trump analogue, joining the actual Trump as name-dropped in numerous 80s issues, as well as 90s Trump-a-likes Raymond Trask and Derek Tully, from Amazing Spider-Man and Daredevil respectively.
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Jan 9, 2018 12:30
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mind the walrus posted:So as someone who sat out Civil War II, who did worse poo poo? Tony or Carol? Tony was a moron, Carol was a facist.
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Jan 9, 2018 13:00
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So was Civil War 2 just like Civil War 1 where normally sensible people did really stupid poo poo and suffered no consequences what so ever? (See Reed "Smartest Man on alive" supporting Joe Mccarthy's witch hunts)
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Jan 9, 2018 13:16
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Samuringa posted:Has Marvel ever gone wild and elected someone batshit crazy and completely unsuitable for presidency like DC did with Luthor? In the 2099 universe, Dr. Doom took over and declared himself president for awhile.
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Jan 9, 2018 15:40
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McCloud posted:So was Civil War 2 just like Civil War 1 where normally sensible people did really stupid poo poo and suffered no consequences what so ever? (See Reed "Smartest Man on alive" supporting Joe Mccarthy's witch hunts) Well Obama and the entire US government was down for pre-crime convictions so that's stupid (insert your own zinger about politics here). Like half the Marvel universe cornered Bruce Banner because of a vision concerning him killing everyone, because the way to keep someone calm is to have a bunch of superheroes stand on their front lawn suited up for a fight, then Hawkeye killed Banner with a special Hulk-killing arrow because everyone thought he was about to hulk out (even though he literally couldn't according to the plot in the book starring Hulk) and all he had to do was go on a trip across America and feel bad to get off scot-free (he was later further absolved from wrongdoing by having a reveal that Naz-Steve Rogers had framed Banner). Speaking of NazSteve, after seeing a vision of Miles Morales standing over his bloody body on the Capitol steps, he loving goes there anyway! Like, how would being murdered help your big HYDRA plan, dude? Miles goes too! Because again, the best way to avoid a bad vision of the future is to get right in position for that bad vision to come to pass. Those are the couple I could think of off the top of my head but there's plenty more.
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Jan 9, 2018 15:42
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You know I've been reading Fear Itself and there's a whole big conversation about how Steve Rogers reflects the mood of the country, so him going Nazi makes a lot of sense now. Edit: Fear Itself panels.  
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Jan 9, 2018 15:51
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jng2058 posted:In the 2099 universe, Dr. Doom took over and declared himself president for awhile. And that's insane/unsuitable how?
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Jan 9, 2018 16:08
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doom was actually doing a pretty good job for the 30 seconds before he was deposed
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Jan 9, 2018 16:19
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So did all that actually happen or is he just loving with them?
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Jan 9, 2018 17:40
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David D. Davidson posted:So did all that actually happen or is he just loving with them? I think it happened -- the whole reason Puck was short to begin with is because his body was being used as storage space for a demon.
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Jan 9, 2018 17:44
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jng2058 posted:In the 2099 universe, Dr. Doom took over and declared himself president for awhile. I dunno man, Victor at least has previous experience in politics
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Jan 9, 2018 17:53
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TwoPair posted:Well Obama and the entire US government was down for pre-crime convictions so that's stupid (insert your own zinger about politics here). Let's be honest: There's never been a politician above the local level without a HUGE boner for prior restraint. Having a supposedly real justification for just that would be passed into law so fast your head would spin on its way to the gallows.
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Jan 9, 2018 17:54
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David D. Davidson posted:So did all that actually happen or is he just loving with them? I think it happened in a Jason Aaron wolverine book.
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Jan 9, 2018 17:58
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David D. Davidson posted:So did all that actually happen or is he just loving with them? Yes. Puck literally conquered Hell.
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Jan 9, 2018 20:12
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wiegieman posted:Yes. Puck literally conquered Hell. Then renamed it "H.E. Double Hockey Sticks".
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Jan 9, 2018 20:17
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Lobok posted:Then renamed it "H.E. Double Hockey Sticks". I think I first encountered that phrase in a Captain America comic where Nomad (not sure which one) had it in a thought bubble, and I could not for the life of me figure out what the hell he was saying. 
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Jan 9, 2018 20:18
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Lobok posted:Then renamed it "H.E. Double Hockey Sticks". Canadians, amirite??
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Jan 9, 2018 20:27
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They'll only let a Canuck rule Hell after it freezes over.
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Jan 9, 2018 21:15
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Lobok posted:They'll only let a Canuck rule Hell after it freezes over. Or they win the Stanley Cup, whichever comes first.
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Jan 9, 2018 21:47
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prefect posted:I think it happened -- the whole reason Puck was short to begin with is because his body was being used as storage space for a demon. Shouldn't he be bigger then, like Strong Guy?
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Jan 9, 2018 22:49
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So hell is ruled by Strong Guy, Mephisto and Puck?
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Jan 9, 2018 23:29
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Synthbuttrange posted:So hell is ruled by Strong Guy, Mephisto and Puck? Strong Guy abdicated a while ago in Wolverine or Thunderbolts, I think. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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Jan 9, 2018 23:41
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McCloud posted:I was wondering what terrible comic this edgy poo poo was from, and saw that it was from the ultimates lines, and then it all made sense. Jesus. Well, you have to be pretty edgy to show naked bush in a comic.
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Jan 9, 2018 23:45
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strong guy and puck ruled different hells. i suspect that third-rate xmen characters will rule every marvel hell eventually.
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Jan 9, 2018 23:47
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Here's Puck putting the sword back in. Also, he loses some of his soul in the process and that's why he's small..? Dwarfism means you have less of a soul apparently? I'd blame Byrne but I think that was a Bill Mantlo issue. 
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Jan 9, 2018 23:47
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Say Nothing posted:Well, you have to be pretty edgy to show naked bush in a comic. 
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Jan 9, 2018 23:53
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:strong guy and puck ruled different hells. i suspect that third-rate xmen characters will rule every marvel hell eventually. 
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Jan 10, 2018 00:49
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Hulk Smash! posted:I'd blame Byrne but I think that was a Bill Mantlo issue. Byrne just had him as a dwarf with peak athleticism, Mantlo did all the weird stuff.
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Jan 10, 2018 00:55
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DACK FAYDEN posted:except the one ruled by Strong Guy unless someone else takes it over because he's first-rate he took over mephisto's hell, so that lasted all of 5 minutes.
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Jan 10, 2018 01:11
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 From Mystique #23. This loving face
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Jan 10, 2018 01:23
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Abroham Lincoln posted:
It's like every goddamn time I turn on my front camera
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Jan 10, 2018 04:12
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Abroham Lincoln posted:
I'm guessing she's turning herself more malleable to survive an explosion? What are her powers anyway? I swear I remember a comic where she grew two more arms and another face on the back of her head, and I don't think that's really ever come up again.
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Jan 10, 2018 04:16
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WaywardWoodwose posted:I'm guessing she's turning herself more malleable to survive an explosion? What are her powers anyway? I swear I remember a comic where she grew two more arms and another face on the back of her head, and I don't think that's really ever come up again. She's an incredibly powerful shapeshifter who can basically anything you imagine a shapeshifter doing including weird poo poo like making test tubes out of her own body parts, turning invisbile or whatever. She can't replicate powers but that is about it.
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Jan 10, 2018 04:33
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Abroham Lincoln posted:
It's like those Intentionally Ugly Photos 
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Jan 10, 2018 04:33
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WaywardWoodwose posted:I'm guessing she's turning herself more malleable to survive an explosion? What are her powers anyway? I swear I remember a comic where she grew two more arms and another face on the back of her head, and I don't think that's really ever come up again. Hulk Smash! posted:Here's Puck putting the sword back in.
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Jan 10, 2018 04:38
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WaywardWoodwose posted:I'm guessing she's turning herself more malleable to survive an explosion? What are her powers anyway? I swear I remember a comic where she grew two more arms and another face on the back of her head, and I don't think that's really ever come up again. Yeah, she's in the process of turning into a deflated paper-like shape to drift away from an explosion. The two-faces thing is actually from the earlier in the same series, too. That and the compressed transformation supposedly are really difficult, but she does a ton of wacky poo poo with shapeshifting in her solo series alone, like making a test tube out of herself(???), turning her arms into plane wings, aforementioned giving herself more arms and faces to shoot more people at once, and shifting her organs into her feet to take a bullet to the chest. The series ran from 2003-2005 and supposedly her powers have only gotten better/stupider since.
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Jan 10, 2018 04:43
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Retro Futurist posted:Byrne just had him as a dwarf with peak athleticism, Mantlo did all the weird stuff. I read up on this yesterday and it's kinda sad. Byrne wrote Puck as a little person (?) based on a friend if his, and just because of a line where Puck mentions he's always in pain (because of his achondroplasty), Mantlo starts with this ACTUALLY HE'S A NORMO WITH DEMON HELL AGHHHFFPRR.
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Jan 10, 2018 08:24
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Huh, normally it's Byrne doing that.
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Jan 10, 2018 08:33
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davidspackage posted:I read up on this yesterday and it's kinda sad. Byrne wrote Puck as a little person (?) based on a friend if his, and just because of a line where Puck mentions he's always in pain (because of his achondroplasty), Mantlo starts with this ACTUALLY HE'S A NORMO WITH DEMON HELL AGHHHFFPRR. Puck suffered a lot because Byrne made an admirable effort to make him feel lived in and in the autumn of a long and exciting life, so he'll occasionally toss off an oblique reference to some previous adventure as a fun little character beat which then re-emerges, years later, as some godawful bit of Mantlo or James Hudnall business. For example, early on he makes an aside to knowing Ernest Hemingway, which inexplicably later unfolds into a deeply stupid time travel story because it's not like Hemingway was alive into the 60s or anything like that, no, you've gotta meet him in the 30s and also have Wolverine there for some reason.
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