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Vermain posted:Man, poo poo, they're really cheap now, too. Relic tier 3 is 1900, Spellthief is 1800, and Oasis is only 1500. That's within around 400-500g saved getting Sightstone, which is fantastic. Ornn is already falling in popularity and winrate and now it's time to nerf him again.
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Rammus has been popular for a while dude, especially as a counterpick to all AD teams which are still pretty common. Outside of the autists that main him for whatever reason, he's an incredibly loving boring character to play constantly.SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Ornn is already falling in popularity and winrate and now it's time to nerf him again. He deserves it. Servaetes fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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rabidsquid posted:i figure thats the most likely outcome of this I think you'd have to be legit crazy to not buy Sightstone now. With the new cost, Eye of the Watchers is slightly over 100% gold efficient, and that's not even counting any of its non-stat passives. SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Ornn is already falling in popularity and winrate and now it's time to nerf him again. Good. gently caress his busted, overloaded kit.
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Jan 10, 2018 01:54
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(watching ornn waddle around slowly & do basically nothing) gently caress this overloaded kit WHY is this bullshit champion allowed to slowly walk away from or OR slowly walk towards me
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Jan 10, 2018 02:01
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free username: ornny on main
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Vermain posted:Whole bunch of skins coming in 8.2, including Arctic Ops Gragas, Sweetheart Xayah/Rakan, and Lunar Revel Lux/Nasus/Warwick. Nice try riot, but a super saiyan nasus skin aint gonna stop me from playing dbzf. 
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In a pre-season full of burst damage, taking away the relic shield option to shield a teammate is really gonna suck. They are doing this the wrong way, people always built the active support items over the sightstone combined items because the actives were fun and impactful, now you just no longer have the option to build the active items.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:In a pre-season full of burst damage, taking away the relic shield option to shield a teammate is really gonna suck. I very rarely saw anyone building actives last season all the way from Silver to high Plat. I've only really started seeing Face in preseason because of a combination of how bonkers burst damage is and the short duration of games making it more impactful in a shorter span of time.
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Jan 10, 2018 03:43
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Vermain posted:Man, poo poo, they're really cheap now, too. Relic tier 3 is 1900, Spellthief is 1800, and Oasis is only 1500. That's within around 400-500g saved getting Sightstone, which is fantastic. Yeah one of the first things I thought of when I saw those changes is the support items are getting just cartoonishly gold efficient between the passive/quest reward/bandit/free sightstone e: oh I see the old quest rewards are replaced by sightstone but still bandit alone probably gets you back like half of the 350 by itself Monicro fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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Jan 10, 2018 03:52
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my ID: ornny DMs open
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Okay, this is actually even better than I thought. You get the tier 2 gold gen item, you do whatever the gimmick is in lane for 500g, and then it just turns into a Sightstone with 3 charges. The benefit from combining it is that you get more stats and an extra charge, but you can literally just keep it at the 500g version and go build whatever else. This also conveniently kills off the Targon's meta. I think I'm just gonna wait until this patch is out before diving into ranked.
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Work Friend Keven posted:(watching ornn waddle around slowly & do basically nothing) gently caress this overloaded kit WHY is this bullshit champion allowed to slowly walk away from or OR slowly walk towards me
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Orrn is actually the best champion because cartoonishly suicidal depressed Walrus is an amazing characterization for a game that tries way too hard to be serious sometimes.
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Stallion Cabana posted:Orrn is actually the best champion because cartoonishly suicidal depressed Walrus is an amazing characterization for a game that tries way too hard to be serious sometimes. He's not Eeyore; he's just very taciturn and stiff.
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my only interaction with orn was my first game playing jarvan iv and we remade because our adc never loaded in he looked neat i guess?
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I love how the thing getting the most rage in the comments of the patch notes is the heimer nerfs. Who the gently caress even is heimerdinger?
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donger players upset that they have to actually play the game to 2v1 now
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Camel Camus posted:I love how the thing getting the most rage in the comments of the patch notes is the heimer nerfs. Humorously, even Heisendong - probably the world's best Heimerdinger one-trick - agreed that the nerf was justified. Big Bertha basically guaranteed that you won every single 1v2 against jungle ganks if you were even moderately competent at Heimer.
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Jan 10, 2018 06:59
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Nobody who has ever had to gank a Heimerdinger and watched his PvE ult tower continue to kill you to death from 60% after you instagib Heimer is upset about these nerfs
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NEW CHAMPION - CODE NAMED “ BIG GUY „ Who is this mysterious traveller?
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just picked up LoL and want to get back into it. I'm a Dota 2 player, and have experience with MOBAs. I'm not a total noob. that being said, I want to play ranked ASAP but there's a level 30 entry bar and 20 heroes purchased requirement. how long will it take me to achieve these requirements? I would rather not be stuck doing coop vs AI with a bunch of scripters who just constantly run into the enemy base and die. I also do not want to spend RL money to purchase champions from the store. I also made this account back in 2015 and I swear I had a bunch of champions, but upon logging in, I'm level 1 and have barely any champs. Qubee fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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Jan 10, 2018 10:35
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I had 20 champs after about a month of play. If you you just buy cheap champs or get lucky with shard drops you could probably get there in a few weeks. I think the ramp up to L30 might be smoother now as well.
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Q8ee posted:just picked up LoL and want to get back into it. I'm a Dota 2 player, and have experience with MOBAs. I'm not a total noob. that being said, I want to play ranked ASAP but there's a level 30 entry bar and 20 heroes purchased requirement. the 1 to 30 grind kind of sucks no matter what but there are really good heroes for every role at the lowest essence prices (450 or 1300). it shouldn't take too long if you just buy up the cheap heroes.
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Jan 10, 2018 11:50
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do you get IP after each game? how many games does it take to rack up 450 IP? poo poo has changed so much since I last played in 2014. I remember there'd be free champions on rotation each week, and grinding IP wasn't too difficult.
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Q8ee posted:do you get IP after each game? how many games does it take to rack up 450 IP? poo poo has changed so much since I last played in 2014. I remember there'd be free champions on rotation each week, and grinding IP wasn't too difficult. You get 50 BE (what used to be IP) from your first win of the day, however you only get BE from chests, or by dusting champion shards. You do also get more shards/BE every time you level before 30 though.
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Q8ee posted:do you get IP after each game? how many games does it take to rack up 450 IP? poo poo has changed so much since I last played in 2014. I remember there'd be free champions on rotation each week, and grinding IP wasn't too difficult. 50BE from first win of the day, and the champion shards you get when you level up will usually be worth 800-1200BE if you dust them all so level up once and you can probably get 2 champs right off the bat. 14 champions on free rotation each week.
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Realistically, what should I be spending my IP / BE on? I'm fine with free champs, and I'll purchase my most favourite champs so I always have a fallback to play if free champs aren't my style.
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Q8ee posted:Realistically, what should I be spending my IP / BE on? I'm fine with free champs, and I'll purchase my most favourite champs so I always have a fallback to play if free champs aren't my style. Just buy the 450 champs, there are good ones for every role. Feel free to ask the thread which ones to buy once you decide which role(s) you want to focus on.
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I appreciate the help, guys. Playing LoL after such a huge break is pretty refreshing, and I much prefer the pacing and style of this game compared to Dota 2. Everything felt so sluggish and floaty in Dota 2.
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Q8ee posted:just picked up LoL and want to get back into it. I'm a Dota 2 player, and have experience with MOBAs. I'm not a total noob. that being said, I want to play ranked ASAP but there's a level 30 entry bar and 20 heroes purchased requirement. You'll be able to unlock Blind Pick after enough AI games (level 6) then Draft Pick soon after (level 10?). Draft Pick isn't ranked, but you get to choose your preferred roles before you queue and then you get dropped in the game with a label of JUNGLE, TOP, MID, etc. Really nice change coming from DotA. (People still slapfight about lanes anyway though)
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You can also buy an account that’s already level 30 for like $10, but you have to be careful about where you buy it from because you need to buy non-botted ones so you don’t get banned later
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Did some more testing with the new PBE Sightstones. There's some interesting implications with how the quest currently functions:
There's both positives and negatives to the change. Getting pushed out of lane early with Relic or Spellthief feels bad, since it slows down the pace of you being able to get Sightstone considerably and, consequently, limits your options for getting back into the game through vision control (via avoiding ganks, getting jungler information, controlling river/dragon, etc.). However, you also have 800g to throw around that you never did before, meaning that it's easier to fight your way out of a deficit instead of feeling obligated to spend that money on a measly amount of health and thus slip further and further behind the curve. It's probably a nerf to roaming supports, but I couldn't say how bad of a one off the cuff. At a minimum, I suspect they're going to have to nerf Relic to apply the same sort of charge generation malus that Spellthief has. I think the last thing anyone wants to see is Vayne with a Sightstone working with her support to put down a completely impregnable wall of wards and farm in total safety, or GP taking Relic, getting fat off of Bandit charges, and then turning top into his own tiny island of vision. You might also see hits to Spellthief or Frostfang depending on if junglers start taking it in lieu of Tracker's Knife, but I think the charge time it would take to complete the quest on a jungler is simply too long to make it worthwhile. Vermain fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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Vermain posted:Humorously, even Heisendong - probably the world's best Heimerdinger one-trick - agreed that the nerf was justified. Big Bertha basically guaranteed that you won every single 1v2 against jungle ganks if you were even moderately competent at Heimer. I am a new, self-declared Dongerhonger main and the only reason I'm upset about the nerf is that I didn't realize the big turret was so good
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they're testing making targeted spells draw creep aggro for the next patch which is kinda interesting, they might actually start making targeted spells again.
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I kinda don't like kleptomancy and to a lesser extent bandit, it makes you feel worse in a bad lane when you get poked by the other guy and you can't retaliate when you know that everytime you get poked your potentially giving the guy 100g or a elixir powerup for a few minutes. In top lane when they have klepto I feel like I don't even want to get into any trades at all with the other guy when you know your just giving them a free kills worth of gold everytime they go back.
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Radical posted:they're testing making targeted spells draw creep aggro for the next patch which is kinda interesting, they might actually start making targeted spells again. or this is just to further dissuade you from playing the remaining champions with targeted spells in a lead-up to converting more of them to skillshots
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Radical posted:they might actually start making targeted spells again. Ew, please no
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Radical posted:they're testing making targeted spells draw creep aggro for the next patch which is kinda interesting, they might actually start making targeted spells again. they might as well, targeted spells already draw tower aggro which as someone coming from DotA feels weird and awful already
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Elephunk posted:they might as well, targeted spells already draw tower aggro which as someone coming from DotA feels weird and awful already To be fair, ANY damage draws tower aggro, even the enemy hurting himself on your bramble vest. I'm really hoping they don't implement that change. More targeted spells on the other hand, would be cool and good, maybe they'll finally release a new champion I would actually want to play.
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