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Halloween Jack posted:You can see the beginnings of the problem in his earlier films, namely King Kong. I have a big soft spot for King Kong but agreed.
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The Hobbit movies were a nightmare. So long that the buzz/high you were working with to stomach trying it in the first place would fade away and you'd suddenly find yourself in a movie theater watching video game cutscenes with no sense of how many hours of the film were left. 2? 3? It could be anything. It could FEEL like anything. It was the Jaunt of movies. Watching the third one i wanted to leave soooo bad and I'm someone that sat through The Brown Bunny and A Day Without a Mexican. People mock the DC films for like, Generic Monster Man Antagonist but I'd rather see Doomsday a thousand more times than have to deal with Azog or Magog or whatever the gently caress that dudes name was in the corny rear end videogame cut scene battles. I'm imagining all three movies marathoned as a 20 hour (at least in feeling) Gitmo situation.
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Jan 10, 2018 19:00
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Halloween Jack posted:The second movie ends with Smaug discovering that someone has stolen from his hoard. Then there's a huge long action set-piece that ends with Smaug getting doused with molten gold. He literally shakes it off, blames the Lake Men, and flies off to destroy their town. I "love" that change because it means this ultra old powerful being terrorized and made his home in this ancient dwarf stronghold, wakes up, sees this pack of dwarves is messing around and talking about stealing poo poo and steal a bunch of his poo poo and how this is there home, knows Bilbo is hanging around and chats with him, gets tricked by a dwarf into an attempt to seal him into a gold statue of this dwarf guy's dad, but is still like no, CLEARLY this is the work of some humans from this town way to the south.
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Jan 10, 2018 19:08
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Smaug isn't confused as to who's responsible, but rather chooses to burn down Laketown in order to avenge himself against the dwarves and hobbit (who he just can't manage to kill).
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Jan 10, 2018 19:09
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Guy A. Person posted:They should have let del Toro direct the Hobbit Well, he very, very desperately wanted to, but MGM being broke as a joke finally pushed him over the edge; he literally put his life on hold for two and a half years to make the two movies, but with no resolution to their financial situation in sight, he finally got tired of "hurry up and wait" and wanted to actually get back to working on stuff. Can't say I blame him.
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Jan 10, 2018 19:18
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not one pieeeeeeeeeece
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I think Del Toro should go into a project with a "I hate this and I don't want to be here" attitude and he'll receive twice the budget and the production would go perfectly. Seems like every passion project he wanted to do over the last decade just didn't work out - movies or video games. I'm honestly surprised The Shape of Water came out and all the footage didn't get blown up or the creator of Hellboy throwing it into legal quagmire.
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Jan 10, 2018 19:52
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Teen Titans Go! To the Movies teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY6Kx8WJS78
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Jan 10, 2018 19:53
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Cannot wait to hit up the 10 PM showing of that on a Wednesday alone wearing a paper bag on my face 
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Jan 10, 2018 19:57
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Jimbot posted:I think Del Toro should go into a project with a "I hate this and I don't want to be here" attitude and he'll receive twice the budget and the production would go perfectly. Seems like every passion project he wanted to do over the last decade just didn't work out - movies or video games. I'm honestly surprised The Shape of Water came out and all the footage didn't get blown up or the creator of Hellboy throwing it into legal quagmire. I don't know what I admire more: the honesty to edit in a reference to The Shape of Water (a movie Del Toro had wanted to make since he was a child), or the balls to then not edit your "every passion project" line despite blowing it up in the next sentence.
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Jan 10, 2018 20:02
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Sir Kodiak posted:I don't know what I admire more: the honesty to edit in a reference to The Shape of Water (a movie Del Toro had wanted to make since he was a child), or the balls to then not edit your "every passion project" line despite blowing it up in the next sentence. Maybe "every passion project based on a licensed work" is a better metric? The list is what at this point: Hellboy 3, Silent Hill game, At the Mountains of Madness, the Hobbit
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Guy A. Person posted:Maybe "every passion project based on a licensed work" is a better metric? The list is what at this point: Hellboy 3, Silent Hill game, At the Mountains of Madness, the Hobbit but he needs to make a bioshock movie now so this can't happen any more. i will get my bioshock movie if i have to make it myself for $200 with some duct tape and a garden hose.
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"No", said the man in Hollywood, "it belongs to Irrational"
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Jan 10, 2018 20:38
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Sir Kodiak posted:I don't know what I admire more: the honesty to edit in a reference to The Shape of Water (a movie Del Toro had wanted to make since he was a child), or the balls to then not edit your "every passion project" line despite blowing it up in the next sentence. "It seems like" isn't a definitive statement. Down boy, your god idol Guillermo del Toro will be fine and my post wasn't an attack on him at all. I was pointing out that he has tremendously bad luck when it comes to getting passion projects off the ground for one reason or another.
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I'm pretty sure Sir K was just needling you for posting both "he has trouble getting passion projects off the ground" and then admitting that his ultimate passion project got off the ground. I think "had the balls" was just a turn of phrase and not meant to be antagonistic, it was just an "it's funny that you contradict your own point" observation
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Jan 10, 2018 21:44
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Yep, just thought it was a funny contradiction. Tried not to antagonize, but, whelp 
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Jan 10, 2018 21:48
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Yeah bad phrasing IMO, seemed a little antagonistic. BTW in other Comic Book Movie news I got my son the new Scooby Doo meets Batman (Brave and the Bold) and other than the fact that they totally flubbed Batman's voice it's pretty good. It's a nice companion to the super-weird dream-logic 1972 Scooby Doo Where Are You? Batman episodes.
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Jan 10, 2018 21:51
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Don't worry I'm super well versed in phrasing my funny jokes wrong and pissing off friends and family so I notice that poo poo and I got your back 
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Jan 10, 2018 21:52
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If you want to see some weird kitschy dream logic, I have to recommend Batman and Harley Quinn. It's downright Lynchian at times.
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Jan 10, 2018 22:02
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Yeah, sorry if I came off as too hostile there. I have a cold, I'm physically cold and it's just been a miserable day for me all around. I'm punchy today.
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No worries. I went for ironic overstatement, which doesn't always play in text. In terms of comic book movies... recently watched Valerian. It's rad. If you liked The Fifth Element, definitely check it out.
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Jan 10, 2018 22:45
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To change the subject a little bit... do you guys like the films of Zack Snyder?
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Jan 10, 2018 22:49
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He's my favorite disc jockey 
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Punkin Spunkin posted:To change the subject a little bit... The only thing I love more than the films is the man
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Neo Rasa posted:The book rules but Battle of the Five Armies is horrendous and it's a third of the story of the movies' story Weirdly, it's a movie almost entirely about a battle that features very little battle footage. And, in what there is, it's never actually clear what happens. It's the grey armoured dwarves bumping into grey armoured orcs, who are also bumping into elves whose armour, despite being gold, is so washed out it's kind of grey. You have these incredibly elaborate, expensive shots that are 90% CGI, and you arrive at the end of them wondering what the loving point of that shot was supposed to be. Megaman's Jockstrap posted:You know what, you're right. The elaborate V-Rex/King Kong set-piece took it right to the edge. He clearly keeps escalating the action scenes until they get blown out into a full-on cartoon. Very perceptive. It's also that his action scenes are completely sequential. It's less noticeable in a general action scene, or in a battle with only a few moving pieces, but everything happens in order. So, in the Two Towers, there's the trade of arrows, and there's shots of the elves firing, then, a little later, shots of the orcs firing and hitting, and then both sides apparently throw away their bows and crossbows. Compare that with, say, Kingdom of Heaven, where the arrows are constantly flying back and forth over people's heads. It's not a big deal there and only weirdos like me notice, but in something like 'Five Armies' you get huge war machines popping up, and then vanishing, or the afore-mentioned worms. Each aspect of the battle is isolated from the others. I mean, for all its flaws, Rogue One did this really well, where multiple aspects of the final battle happened simultaneously and it was clear what was happening, where it was, and how it affected everything else. Snowman_McK fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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In King Kong, I was thinking specifically of the very long scene where they are attacked by some giant spiders, and then they slide down a hill into a mud pit where they are attacked by giant centipedes, and then when they get away from them they get attacked by velociraptors. I don't actually remember the order in which they were menaced by which type of prehistoric hell monster, but it was very sequential and very wearying. Also the end scene where Fay Wray almost falls off the tower, then she doesn't, then the latter falls down and she almost does again, but she doesn't, and...it kind of undercuts the tragedy of the finale. The Hobbit movies have some good action scenes, and others are very long and feel like watching someone play Castlevania.
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Marvel actually hired someone to write a Black Widow movie, finally. http://variety.com/2018/film/news/marvel-black-widow-jac-schaeffer-screenwriter-1202643908/
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Jan 11, 2018 01:27
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Just make it Metal Gear Solid 3
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Snowman_McK posted:It's also that his action scenes are completely sequential. It's less noticeable in a general action scene, or in a battle with only a few moving pieces, but everything happens in order. So, in the Two Towers, there's the trade of arrows, and there's shots of the elves firing, then, a little later, shots of the orcs firing and hitting, and then both sides apparently throw away their bows and crossbows. Compare that with, say, Kingdom of Heaven, where the arrows are constantly flying back and forth over people's heads. It's not a big deal there and only weirdos like me notice, but in something like 'Five Armies' you get huge war machines popping up, and then vanishing, or the afore-mentioned worms. Each aspect of the battle is isolated from the others. I mean, for all its flaws, Rogue One did this really well, where multiple aspects of the final battle happened simultaneously and it was clear what was happening, where it was, and how it affected everything else. There's nothing weird about noticing that, I mean even with the footage they shot I'm sure you could edit together a compelling battle (especially with how much of it is all CG) but the time and care just wasn't put into it so it's battle by checklist. Also  CG Billy Connolly as Dain. That was godawful. I understand why they weren't able to get him to re-shoot his scene but like1) Are you kidding me? The dialogue they had him phone in was somehow importantly better than whatever was shot before? Like did they only have audio of him making fart noises or something? 2) They seriously couldn't put a stuntman in a wig like they did anytime Saruman is doing anything other than sitting down? Like WOW that looked bad the second it was in motion.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Just make it Metal Gear Solid 3 When you see the
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Punkin Spunkin posted:To change the subject a little bit... Yeah hes alright actually. His films are good.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:To change the subject a little bit... I only really dig 2 of them, the rest of his filmography is only alright.
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Gorn Myson posted:The man who turned Superman into an Objectivist Libertarian hero who murders billions of people with a massive smile on his face and then got killed by his version of the Batman who kills people for no reason, and in creating these versions literally defecated upon the graves of all of those who have written for both before? Wow hosed up that Zack Snyder got killed during the Beavis filming
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I Before E posted:Wow hosed up that Zack Snyder got killed during the Beavis filming His last words were "No, Henry, you moron! Like THIS!"
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Al Borland Corp. posted:His last words were "No, Henry, you moron! Like THIS!" "Don't you remember, Batfleck? When I killed your parents? I flexed JUST LIKE THIS!"
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I Before E posted:Wow hosed up that Zack Snyder got killed during the Beavis filming But its so bad that he made Superman a Nazi that literally goose stepped across the corpses of civilians in Man of Steel. I really hope one of his criticisms is "It was too long!"
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Something is wrong with human beings in this day and age. I am officially old and should be on my lawn in a chair. What is wrong with youngin's?
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Jan 11, 2018 02:50
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MovieBob more like MovieBADOPINIONSMAN haha
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Ask him what he thinks of eugenics. The critic thread just had a multi-page discussion about how his twitter opinions are trash and he's a rather trash person.
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