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Gear porn never really fits into Star Wars no matter how often they do it. A blaster is a blaster, Jedi wear robes, and none of the many lightsaber variants have improved the concept of a lightsaber.
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No gear porn, sure, but I feel like Star Wars -does- need some sort of crafting/repair minigame because it's something that just keeps happening on screen, probably because Lucas was a teenaged hotrodder So basically something like Fragged Kingdom.
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Jan 11, 2018 01:19
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It should be more like tune-ups and stuff though; temporary buffs
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Jan 11, 2018 01:25
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I collected all teh cool equipment on KOTOR and I want my rpg character to be a jango fett brotha with all kind of insane gear
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Jan 11, 2018 01:32
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Plutonis posted:I collected all teh cool equipment on KOTOR and I want my rpg character to be a jango fett brotha with all kind of insane gear hell yeah. Star Wars RPGs should unironically have SpyCraft-esque equipment sections.
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Jan 11, 2018 01:36
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Halloween Jack posted:Gear porn never really fits into Star Wars no matter how often they do it. A blaster is a blaster, Jedi wear robes, and none of the many lightsaber variants have improved the concept of a lightsaber. Counterpoint:  
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Jan 11, 2018 02:03
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Halloween Jack posted:Gear porn never really fits into Star Wars no matter how often they do it. A blaster is a blaster, Jedi wear robes, and none of the many lightsaber variants have improved the concept of a lightsaber. OTOH there's a surprising amount of wordcount in the 1979 Han Solo books dedicated to the various modifications he made to his pistol.
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Jan 11, 2018 02:23
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hyphz posted:Sure, I’d be up for a deadpool RPG. But the problem is if the players don’t have their PCs say it, but they’re all thinking it. And as a result they end up disengaged in a way they wouldn’t if it was, say, a tactical underwater combat. Remember 10 pages ago when you said you'd shut up if you were irritating people? You passed that threshold 9 pages ago. There is literally nothing else to say to you because at this point it's obvious you're either too obsessed with being right that you'll dismiss and reframe everything to prove your point to ludicrous extremes, you're arguing in bad faith for some weird reason, or maybe you really do have a brain parasite. If this stuff is still for-real not getting through to you, consider taking a long vacation not thinking about it, then politely asking the Apocalypse World Thread/Dungeon World Thread/Blades in the Dark Thread/general PbtA thread for the most extensive list of basic-primers on PbtA games and playthroughs to review for weeks. You could also explore Savage Worlds, Shadow of the Demon Lord, Spellbound Kingdoms, Barbarians of Lemuria, Fragged Empire/Kingdom/Seas/Aeternum, 13th Age, PATROL, Unity RPG, or a thousand other games instead. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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Jan 11, 2018 02:25
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unseenlibrarian posted:No gear porn, sure, but I feel like Star Wars -does- need some sort of crafting/repair minigame because it's something that just keeps happening on screen, probably because Lucas was a teenaged hotrodder Man I read WEG D6 Star Wars revised a while back and it was all about repairing things but missed the point entirely. Everything was measured in days and weeks, required super specific training, was really hard, and had hilariously bad consequences for failure. Actual Star Wars would have had the hyperdive break on Han and then he'd limp the drat Falcon into drydock for six weeks.
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Jan 11, 2018 02:49
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theironjef posted:Man I read WEG D6 Star Wars revised a while back and it was all about repairing things but missed the point entirely. Everything was measured in days and weeks, required super specific training, was really hard, and had hilariously bad consequences for failure. Actual Star Wars would have had the hyperdive break on Han and then he'd limp the drat Falcon into drydock for six weeks. Yeah, you're right, I should have said 'actually interesting crafting/repair minigame' Also WEG is the worst at Star Wars just for how they statted Han "We're all Fine here, how are you?" Solo as being a masterfully glib liar and an expert mechanic because those were absolutely traits he demonstrated on screen, for sure. unseenlibrarian fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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Jan 11, 2018 02:52
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Nuns with Guns posted:Remember 10 pages ago when you said you'd shut up if you were irritating people? You passed that threshold 9 pages ago. There is literally nothing else to say to you because at this point it's obvious you're either too obsessed with being right that you'll dismiss and reframe everything to prove your point to ludicrous extremes, you're arguing in bad faith for some weird reason, or maybe you really do have a brain parasite. Yea, ok, fair enough. Xiw, what you wrote was great. Oh, and there is some gear stuff in SW, in particular in FaD making your own lightsaber is a thing, and you can customize it a bit.
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Jan 11, 2018 02:53
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hyphz posted:Oddly that wasn’t the problem. I should clarify we were playing SR 4e. In 4e, all extra successes on a shot carry over to damage, rather than the number being limited by the gun you’re using as in 5e. That makes combat really deadly, and initiative really important. Since nobody else has mentioned it: There actual problem is that your players were 100% playing as the A-Team, not as a group of cynical cyber criminals just trying to get one more score. And the A-Team loving rules, but you can't try to treat the A-Team the same way you would a group of cynical cyber criminals just trying to get one more score. Also, since again I don't think anyone called it out as such, your problem specifically is that you confuse metagaming for roleplaying. That's it. That's the root of all of this. You have a serious issue with metagaming. You have overanalyzed games. The TVTropes comment was entirely accurate. You've lost the forest for the trees. A common issue with people who spent too long playing D&D, 3.x in particular.
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Jan 11, 2018 04:19
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quote:The same thing came up a bunch of times. I set up a meeting between two gangs in a warehouse that was intended to be a neat set piece but the players just blocked the entrances and sieged it. The players committed a bunch of crimes but any time Lone Star showed up they just surrendered instantly (because they had no problem with actual atrocities that could be justified as scum-on-scum but didn’t want to touch “innocent” cops), so I had to have them mysteriously never show up or campaign over. this is like the most un-shadowrun thing i've ever heard, like you should have had lone star show up they surrender and then lone star blows out their brains because it's less paper work(edit: btw this is bad gm advice don't do it. i only advocate it here because the players have no sense of the genre) Elfgames fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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Jan 11, 2018 06:01
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This reminds me of an old old "Ask Blackjack" on Blackjack's Shadowrun page. The question was about what mechanics to use for cigarettes vis a vis other drugs. The guy who wrote in said that his players had different ideas about it, but one guy was adamant that there should be no drugs in the campaign.
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Jan 11, 2018 06:05
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In conclusion star wars is a setting of contrasts.
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Jan 11, 2018 07:41
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[in most boring person alive voice] urgh, non-traditional lightsabers are so anime
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Jan 11, 2018 07:45
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This guy owns
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Jan 11, 2018 07:49
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His shoulderspikes not being lightsabers is such a disappointment
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Jan 11, 2018 08:08
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xiw posted:His shoulderspikes not being lightsabers is such a disappointment Now let's try and be reasonable, that would've just gotten a bit too over the top. ed: I mean, you have to draw a line somewhere.
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Jan 11, 2018 08:30
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Foglet posted:Now let's try and be reasonable, that would've just gotten a bit too over the top. Yeah, on his shoulders, and then add glow effects to it.
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Jan 11, 2018 08:42
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theironjef posted:
Cause I remember seeing an edit of that sort, perhaps in the "SW EU" thread.
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Jan 11, 2018 08:50
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Foglet posted:Now let's try and be reasonable, that would've just gotten a bit too over the top. the line is at lightsaber dick/nipples. under that line go crazy
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Jan 11, 2018 08:50
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Elfgames posted:the line is at lightsaber dick/nipples. under that line go crazy Is that before or after limb prostheses? Because I want to know where this line falls in my extensive catalog of yes/no's.
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Jan 11, 2018 09:05
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Only one in 100 padawans succeeds in mastering the Lightwhip. Donate today, for those poor poor souls with a few limbs missing due to their idiocy in believing that you can actually wield such a thing safely, for they need your credits. - This service message brought to you by the Imperial Charity Bureau. [All donors persecuted by Imperial law enforcement due to being charitable to Jedi Traitors]
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Jan 11, 2018 09:27
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Speaking of which, that picture (an illustration from some WotC SW sourcebook, if memory serves) is mild and restrained. Some fan art depicts this dude with full-size blades, each over a meter long. x But oh well, fan art in general can be insane.  Darth Vader Redesign
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Jan 11, 2018 09:34
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Why stop there? Lightkatars, lightfuscinas, lightbohemian earspoons, lightlucerne hammers, lightflails, lightmorningstars, lightknuckles, lightmain gauches
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Jan 11, 2018 09:46
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gradenko_2000 posted:Why stop there? Dual-wielded 32-tailed lighturumis or bust. Foglet fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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Jan 11, 2018 09:53
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Now here me out. What if the light, came all the way out the end, really fast. You could put a handle on it, so you could point it better and hit people from far away.
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Jan 11, 2018 10:04
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9 section staff, made of lightsabers also connected by lightsaberwhips.
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Jan 11, 2018 10:52
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I use my light switch to turn on my lightlight, massacring everyone in the room.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:What if the light, came all the way out the end, really fast. You could put a handle on it, so you could point it better and hit people from far away. You mean... like... make your sword into a part-time gun? Pfft, that's easy, a kid could do it.
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Jan 11, 2018 11:52
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fool_of_sound posted:This guy owns This
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Jan 11, 2018 13:20
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unseenlibrarian posted:No gear porn, sure, but I feel like Star Wars -does- need some sort of crafting/repair minigame because it's something that just keeps happening on screen, probably because Lucas was a teenaged hotrodder Of all the dumb lightsaber variants this is definitely the dumbest. Easily the worst moment in the first season of Rebels. I get that any franchise for kids and nerds is always going to have to have new and better versions of things, but you can't. You can't make a lightsaber better.
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Jan 11, 2018 15:18
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yeah you can have whatever crazy lightsaber you want, and the mechanical benefit in a game would just be that you have a loving lightsaber, instantly making you one of the scariest people in the room
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Jan 11, 2018 15:21
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Darth Maul's lightsaber staff worked, but that was only because a) staves are actual weapons that are actually interesting to pit against a sword and b) they gave that staff to Ray Park.
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Jan 11, 2018 15:25
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how can a spinning helicopter lightsaber generate lift
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Jan 11, 2018 15:27
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Plutonis posted:how can a spinning helicopter lightsaber generate lift I feel like this would be possible with a parachute above it making for a hot air-balloon effect.
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Jan 11, 2018 15:38
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how do they get the laserbeam to stop at sword length
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Serf posted:how do they get the laserbeam to stop at sword length Meterchlorians, microscopic life forms that like it when lasers are finite
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