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yes, but not entirely intentionally iirc. originally everyone was supposed to die in dawn of the dead - the two protagonists would make it to a helicopter and then kill themselves. this wound up changing during production to a more optimistic ending and since dawn was the real pop cultural breakout star of the trilogy (it's where "hole up in a mall" comes from for example as well as "psychotic survivor gangs") which had a profound effect on how zombies were perceived in the popular consciousness.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:zombie stories are a lot of things because it's a super generic concept that has been applied a lot of times by a lot of people So even if it's a treatise on the social contract or man's inherent barbarism, it loses whatever it had going for it when you're 150 issues/14 years in and you're meeting the xth really bad wasteland overlord who keeps his minions in line with violence, sadism, and a liberal application of facebiters.
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FilthyImp posted:Walking Dead is pretty much the modern standard bearer, and that gets troublesome as all gently caress because it's not designed as a self-contained story. walking dead is a soap opera for people who want to drink their own pee in the wasteland and be badass noscope warriors
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boner confessor posted:walking dead is a soap opera for people who want to drink their own pee in the wasteland and be badass noscope warriors I used to have a co-worker who couldn't believe that I wasn't into that stupid show, and constantly forgot I wasn't. Every loving Monday I'd get a recap of that week's episode, despite the fact I'd told him many times I didn't watch it and it wasn't my thing. Really kinda glad I don't work with him anymore, it was annoying as gently caress.
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Kind of sad that preppers are such big losers that it would take a zombie apocalypse for their skillset to even be relevant in their fantasy.
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Panfilo posted:Kind of sad that preppers are such big losers that it would take a zombie apocalypse for their skillset to even be relevant in their fantasy. HEY NONG MAN posted:I went to Bed Bath & Beyond last week and they had an end cap dedicated to selling a USB turntable and they were cross-promoting it with a vinyl copy of a Justin Timberlake album but it isn't his new album. The whole thing was so bizarre so I bought six.  (Or maybe not enough people buying stuff in the rest of the store, so the baby stuff is doing relatively better?)
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We used to have a few decent army surplus place in town, an official one and some retail that bought up that sort of stuff plus related military memorabilia and hunting and fishing poo poo. The official surplus place shut down leaving only the unofficial ones, which jacked their prices up and slowly transformed from a place you could get cheap boots and camping supplies to places that sold military themed collectibles, racist right wing posters, and airsoft poo poo. They also replaced their camping sections with more prepping geared stuff. If you wanted to get a $300 knife shaped like an eagle with 9/11 poo poo on the blade, a bunch of shooting targets of "liberal" celebrities and politicians or racist middle-eastern caricatures, and big tubs of shelf stable food these became the place to go. Had tons of stupid magazines and guidebooks about prepping as well as conspiracy poo poo about why you needed to start prepping. The coming race wars? Biblical prophesy? Class war and communism due to OWS showing its true face as the vanguard for a violent socialist uprising? You name it, they'll sell it. What was extra funny is that this is in Canada, but 90% of the political stuff was imported straight from the US. So you could get political shirts and bumper stickers and all that poo poo to show your support for domestic politics in another country.
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Haifisch posted:And realistically they'd be hosed since big, well-coordinated groups of people would stomp all over the lone weirdo. And they'd have every reason to since the lone weirdo has lots of supplies. I went to a BB&B for the first time back in December and it was pretty horrible: fidget spinners, stupid chinsy usb gadget garbage and other Big Lots-esque tables of junk, an entire display for fitbits or garmin at 20% extra cost, super cluttered, poo poo that probably hasn't sold for 5 years, and just seemed really depressing.. there were some people in there though
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Haifisch posted:And realistically they'd be hosed since big, well-coordinated groups of people would stomp all over the lone weirdo. And they'd have every reason to since the lone weirdo has lots of supplies. I want an apocalypse flick where the protagonist immediately runs off to the country only to find out why it's called highway robbery and not street or alley or whatever robbery.
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Bates posted:I want an apocalypse flick where the protagonist immediately runs off to the country only to find out why it's called highway robbery and not street or alley or whatever robbery. The road
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BrandorKP posted:The cool kids listen to navel poetry sung by improvisational jazz singers... wait this is a real thing? naval poetry is a thing now?
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Arglebargle III posted:wait this is a real thing? naval poetry is a thing now? It's probably been a thing for as long as there've been boats
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Haifisch posted:And realistically they'd be hosed since big, well-coordinated groups of people would stomp all over the lone weirdo. And they'd have every reason to since the lone weirdo has lots of supplies. Reminds me of an article I read about the Siege of Sarajevo where the author opined that he wished he stored up only 4 things. Guns Ammo People Bic Lighters to trade for literally anything else
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Panfilo posted:Kind of sad that preppers are such big losers that it would take a zombie apocalypse for their skillset to even be relevant in their fantasy. The comic book Crossed is gore porn trash, but the first issue does have a funny page of a nerd decked out in army surplus gear getting his poo poo wrecked by a bunch of infected.
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Jan 9, 2018 23:33
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Man is the greatest monster of all tho, lol
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crazy cloud posted:Man is the greatest monster of all tho, lol Not really a revelation to anybody who has worked in retail tbh
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The local B&N had a clearance box with the whole "Items here are 50% off" shtick. Everything was either junk or boardgames that were MSRP $25 stickered at $60.
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Xaris posted:Baby poo poo is insanely marked up so yeah its a big market. Babies R Us was pretty big in keeping TRU afloat. I saw they were giving out $100 off coupons a while back, I wonder what the massive number of exceptions on that coupon were.
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Barnes and Noble clearance racks are only good for terrible but fun books about chupacabras and the like
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ryonguy posted:The comic book Crossed is gore porn trash, but the first issue does have a funny page of a nerd decked out in army surplus gear getting his poo poo wrecked by a bunch of infected. Well, like you said, it's gore porn trash.
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Arglebargle III posted:wait this is a real thing? naval poetry is a thing now? Iggy pop sings about the Dreadnought. Son of Rogues Gallery is fantastic. It's a couple years old now. I won't spoil the best track. It's a thing for me because my job title is Captain (though I'm actually an unlimited horsepower engineer). As far as military poetry goes the naval stuff is better. One will find lines like "like a penis kissing an apple" in army poetry.
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Halloween Jack posted:And then there's the guy who can't get it through his head that the zombie apocalypse isn't going to play out like a roleplaying game, so he gets raped to death while his toddler gets torn limb from limb. Lmao why am I not surprised to see that Garth Ennis was involved with this poo poo?
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ryonguy posted:The comic book Crossed is gore porn trash, but the first issue does have a funny page of a nerd decked out in army surplus gear getting his poo poo wrecked by a bunch of infected. If the nerd buffed up ala Rob Liefeld's Captain America?
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BrandorKP posted:It's a thing for me because my job title is Captain (though I'm actually an unlimited horsepower engineer). As far as military poetry goes the naval stuff is better. One will find lines like "like a penis kissing an apple" in army poetry.
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Halloween Jack posted:Is that their version of the one about the monkey loving a football? It was from a poetry class I sat in on at West Point. I think it was a WWI sniper taking about pulling the trigger and killing someone. That book is in storage though.
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Great Metal Jesus posted:Destrage did a really good song about this. Your uh mileage may vary depending on how much you like metal. You have to blame the influences of neighboring genres for that, specifically the adventure/survival stuff which started leaning heavily into the fall of civilization when people feel out of love with -white man shipwrecked in jungle because king of gorilla isle- poo poo. Zombie narratives are a subgenre/retread of plague narratives which have long been used for social commentary and critique, but when there was this big interest in apocalypse as a setting full of monsters to be defeated, a plague of zombies just fit better than deadly flu.
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Ganson posted:Reminds me of an article I read about the Siege of Sarajevo where the author opined that he wished he stored up only 4 things. No grain alcohol... a bad plan.
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DrNutt posted:Lmao why am I not surprised to see that Garth Ennis was involved with this poo poo? Iirc, he and Warren Ellis had a competition to see who could write the best comic starting from the same premise.
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Beachcomber posted:Iirc, he and Warren Ellis had a competition to see who could write the best comic starting from the same premise. Truly a clash of giants.
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So here's the probable imminent collapse of a local mall http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/news/20180109/burlington-center-mall-closed-after-water-pipes-burst-sears-still-open Real shame, there's an excellent artwork with fountain integral commissioned for the mall on opening in 1982 and I'd hate to see that destroyed in future plans or by vandals.
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DrNutt posted:Truly a clash of giants. Warren Ellis is good
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Beachcomber posted:Iirc, he and Warren Ellis had a competition to see who could write the best comic starting from the same premise.
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Halloween Jack posted:...and now I understand why blackgas has a similar premise that plays out with not quite so much graphic violence and rape. Yeah, Ellis has restraint, comparatively.
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Arglebargle III posted:wait this is a real thing? naval poetry is a thing now? Dude, chanteys have been a thing since before there were boats. Turns out when you need a bunch of people to do a thing in rhythm, singing to that beat keeps them on time. If it's seamen hauling ropes or rail workers swingin hammers, it's a human thing.
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ReidRansom posted:No grain alcohol... a bad plan. Yeah for real, it's like this guy has never played This War of Mine.
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Liquid Communism posted:Dude, chanteys have been a thing since before there were boats. Turns out when you need a bunch of people to do a thing in rhythm, singing to that beat keeps them on time. If it's seamen hauling ropes or rail workers swingin hammers, it's a human thing. I mean a popular thing in the 21st Century, popular enough to sell at a bookstore.
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Some families play country music when they get together to drink, mine plays sea chanteys.
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