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Memento posted:If you have haul trucks on a mine site, you need to make sure you're quarantining light vehicles from every place the haul trucks can go. Otherwise, poo poo gets parked on. How on earth would you do that? Do you give every engineer and geologist and surveyor and supervisor their own haul truck?
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You build separate roads for light vehicles so they don't have to cross paths with haul trucks except at designated crossing points.
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Jan 11, 2018 15:23
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veiled boner fuel posted:How on earth would you do that? Do you give every engineer and geologist and surveyor and supervisor their own haul truck? No, you keep them away until the truck is gone. 
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Jan 11, 2018 15:25
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Platystemon posted:Yellowstone has six tenths of the world’s geysers. Yup, I knew all about how geysers functioned in the 4th grade. We learned how hot the water was, how far it could shoot the water, how the areas surrounding it could have geothermal pools that were so hot you would die if you fell in, how those pools could be covered with stuff so you wouldn't know what was under it until it was too late. Dangerous stuff, those geysers. But our teacher neglected to tell us they were very rare and that they were already found, so we spent many many hours in the woods both worried we were going to get steamed to death by a rogue geyser, and trying our hardest to find a new one.
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Collateral Damage posted:You build separate roads for light vehicles so they don't have to cross paths with haul trucks except at designated crossing points. Maybe that's feasible in some places but good luck getting your average mine to devote the footprint and engineering and cost to do it, and I don't see it working underground. Proteus Jones posted:No, you keep them away until the truck is gone. That sounds awful close to "shut the mine down every time a non haul truck needs to do anything."
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Jan 11, 2018 15:34
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How difficult is it to put a few cameras on the truck to cover the blindspots?
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Jan 11, 2018 15:53
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Maybe hang a little bell off the bumper of the smaller trucks so the big trucks can hear them coming?
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Jan 11, 2018 15:58
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Give each haul truck a drone that hovers 30 feet above and gives the driver 360 degree top-down vision. 
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Jan 11, 2018 16:05
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mobby_6kl posted:How difficult is it to put a few cameras on the truck to cover the blindspots? Or at least something like this (though this and cameras would be a bitch to keep clean in a mine environment): 
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Jan 11, 2018 16:06
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The 'days since last recordable' board at work was updated from 49 to 7 today 
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Jan 11, 2018 16:09
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Build a bridge for the light trucks and lower the road for the haul trucks.
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Jan 11, 2018 16:30
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chitoryu12 posted:Build a bridge for the light trucks and lower the road for the haul trucks. And ensure that all trucks have frame parachutes.
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chitoryu12 posted:Build a bridge for the light trucks and lower the road for the haul trucks.
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mobby_6kl posted:What if there are sewer lines below the surface??? Might be an issue with the whole 'it's a mine' thing.
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spog posted:Might be an issue with the whole 'it's a mine' thing.
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veiled boner fuel posted:Maybe that's feasible in some places but good luck getting your average mine to devote the footprint and engineering and cost to do it, and I don't see it working underground. What are you talking about? Every mine operated by a company big enough to own a giant truck like that has built their mines to accomodate the requirement to keep giant trucks and everybody else apart. An open pit mine is an enormous structure, easily visible from low Earth orbit; most are measured in kilometres. Mine lease areas cover dozens of square kilometres, minimum, even if the actual pit only takes up a quarter of the space. Driving around the Millennium Mine in a full-size pickup truck is interesting. You can see lots of giant trucks, gearboxes whining loudly as they go up and down their haul roads. We crossed the entire mine complex, from the entrance to our site on the other side of the river and upstream a few kilometres, without ever crossing a haul road. There are times when you might, rarely, need to put a light vehicle (anything smaller than a bulldozer) into the active mining area. On those occassions, yes, they shut (that part of) the mine down while the supervisors and engineers and so forth go in and get their stuff done. Most often, it's electricians and other service personnel doing things like moving the power cables for the shovel or maintaining the haul road surface, and they'd have to stop active mining anyways. As for underground, it's not so much giant trucks as endless miles of conveyor belts. The only vehicles I've seen underground were all people-carriers, not ore-haulers. Footprint, engineering, and cost are what mines are made of. It wouldn't be a mine if it didn't have haul roads or some other efficient way to get ore to the processor.
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ExecuDork posted:What are you talking about? Every mine operated by a company big enough to own a giant truck like that has built their mines to accomodate the requirement to keep giant trucks and everybody else apart. An open pit mine is an enormous structure, easily visible from low Earth orbit; most are measured in kilometres. Mine lease areas cover dozens of square kilometres, minimum, even if the actual pit only takes up a quarter of the space. Yeah, I've had to pick up material at 2 separate mines, they both allowed light vehicles (light being a relative term, I was driving a truck that was ~10 ton gross), and they had separate tracks for 'light vehicles' and the huge gently caress-off equipment, I had to cross 1 haul road, but that's because they were directly loading my vehicle with material.
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The full report on that Dutch barge crane accident. Long story short, there was literally no way for the lift to occur without a terrible accident demolishing buildings and everyone involved with the decision was incredibly incompetent.
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I took a tour of the open-pit gold mine in Cripple Creek. We drove in a small econoline based bus. And I tell you that with little exception we ONLY drove on the haul roads, and we passed several trucks on the haul roads. Every light vehicle even associated with the mine has a very tall flag on it like a child's bike. Even the delivery vehicles from the local auto parts stores have them, just to bring parts to the light vehicle maintenance shop. The drivers all have to be trained, even the ones from the car parts stores. In this mine the traffic drives on the left. They say it's for safety reasons, but the reasons didn't make much sense at the time. It's probably because they used to be owned by Anglo Ashanti. The geologists used normal F-350s, again driven on the haul roads to the bottom of the mine to plan where to blast next.
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Do the Worst Driver shows count? Netherlands' Worst Driver contestant accidentally hits the gas instead of the brake. He reacts by shutting his eyes as hard as he can and freezing up. It doesn't end well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvckBJP8QPU chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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Jan 11, 2018 21:30
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chitoryu12 posted:Do the Worst Driver shows count? I'd say deliberately putting, for any reason, anyone anywhere in front of a car driven by someone explicitly known as a bad driver is pretty OSHA.
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sunken fleet posted:Holy poo poo three hours? Doesn't death from exposure usually take days? As a healthy 16 year old way back in the day, I went from a corn-fed, well-hydrated, well equipped, tough farm kid, to lying face down in the field needing to be dragged to a car due to heat exhaustion. 15-20 minutes I would have been unconscious or dead. It took a handful of salt, a half gallon of water, and 4 peanut butter and banana sandwiches to get me moving. Yay sodium and potassium! That was only 95f. Heat will kill you quick. You feel just fine until you fall down and can't get up again.
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mostlygray posted:That was only 95f. Heat will kill you quick. You feel just fine until you fall down and can't get up again. a good time to remind people about persistence hunting, the oldest form of hunting, where you just chase your prey in the hot sun until it gives up and lays down to die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o
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I like to spin very fast as well.
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 more like :oshbut:
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Kibayasu posted:I'd say deliberately putting, for any reason, anyone anywhere in front of a car driven by someone explicitly known as a bad driver is pretty OSHA. The idea of the show is to coach those people to be better drivers, and most of the participants do show a lot of improvement. Not this guy though.
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boner confessor posted:a good time to remind people about persistence hunting, the oldest form of hunting, where you just chase your prey in the hot sun until it gives up and lays down to die The problem with persistence hunting is you've just ran for 8 hours just to get one meal for your family and now you're also 8 hours away from home. The cameraman should just give the dude a gun or something. [edit] Why is forcing the animal to undergo 8 hours of exhaustion to the point it loving dies considered better and more honourable than killing it instantly? Ak Gara fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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spankmeister posted:The idea of the show is to coach those people to be better drivers, and most of the participants do show a lot of improvement. For what it's worth, I think he got his license revoked over that one.
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Ak Gara posted:The problem with persistence hunting is you've just ran for 8 hours just to get one meal for your family and now you're also 8 hours away from home. The cameraman should just give the dude a gun or something. What
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Ak Gara posted:The problem with persistence hunting is you've just ran for 8 hours just to get one meal for your family and now you're also 8 hours away from home. Because animals always run in a straight line, into unfamiliar territory.
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chitoryu12 posted:Do the Worst Driver shows count? The girl in the backseat doesn't even have her seatbelt on. Ak Gara posted:[edit] Why is forcing the animal to undergo 8 hours of exhaustion to the point it loving dies considered better and more honourable than killing it instantly? I don't think people think it is? It's just a very interesting thing that evolution has built us to do. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Ak Gara posted:The problem with persistence hunting is you've just ran for 8 hours just to get one meal for your family and now you're also 8 hours away from home. The cameraman should just give the dude a gun or something. What the gently caress does honour have to do with anything? And have you ever tried to hit an antelope with a spear or a rock? And "one meal"? That thing was bigger than the dude hunting it. That would feed a family for a week. In short,
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Memento posted:What the gently caress does honour have to do with anything? And have you ever tried to hit an antelope with a spear or a rock? Why doesn't he spend less time and energy and run to the supermarket instead of persistence hunting that way no animals have to get tired and die??
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Baronjutter posted:Why doesn't he spend less time and energy and run to the supermarket instead of persistence hunting that way no animals have to get tired and die?? he lives in a food desert 
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Bozart posted:he lives in a food desert nice
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spankmeister posted:The idea of the show is to coach those people to be better drivers, and most of the participants do show a lot of improvement. Right but you probably shouldn't put the host and a cameraman in front of the participants while that happens.
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chitoryu12 posted:Do the Worst Driver shows count? He's loving up way before that. In the run-up to the obstacle he's staring at the speedometer and only occasionally glancing at the road. And then he twists his entire body to look at something they've already driven past, in the process pulling the wheel to the side, because he has no idea he should be thinking about where his car is going. GotLag fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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