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EnjoiThePureTrip posted:What is the list? And what stream? Rebel Fenn Rau is really good. And his ability lasts for an entire round, so ships that can shoot multiple times per round cannot modify any of the shots. I was using Corran against a Rebel Fenn, and it really sucked not being able to modify my double-tap shot.
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ConfusedUs posted:Rebel Fenn Rau is really good. And his ability lasts for an entire round, so ships that can shoot multiple times per round cannot modify any of the shots. Oh man I missed that.
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EnjoiThePureTrip posted:What is the list? And what stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlzEPNg4UO8
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I immediately latched onto the Sheathipede as the best ship of the wave, and I'll stand by it. The gunboat isn't great, it's just good: it's harpoons that are great. We'd probably see them with other ordnance or HLCs if harpoons didn't exist. The Silencer is perfectly costed for the aces (if it were cheaper it'd be broken as gently caress). Kimogi-lols are only viable at all because of harpoons. But the bug shuttle? Holy poo poo it's amazing. It's yet another piece of combo tech for Rebels. It's viable as stress control, as damage mitigation, as anything except dealing damage to aces.
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Apparently Rebel Fenn was enough to get a local player to smash one of his minis and is rage-quitting the game. What are good counters to Fenn? Just concentrate fire on him first?
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Ringo Star Get posted:Apparently Rebel Fenn was enough to get a local player to smash one of his minis and is rage-quitting the game. Oh to be a fly on the wall of that gamestore on that day,
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Ringo Star Get posted:Apparently Rebel Fenn was enough to get a local player to smash one of his minis and is rage-quitting the game. I did a couple of matches with QD nuboats vs fenn/kanan. The first game I concentrated my fire on the ghost and did like 8 damage to it: big mistake. I eventually lost. The next game I basically locked and beelined for Fenn with my gunboats, fired three harpoons at it. One was without a focus and only 3 dice and didn't do any damage, the next was a Fenn ability shot that didn't do any damage, and the last did like 3 damage. Fortunately, I had Fenn in the corner and my QD chased down and killed him, for the loss of one of my gunboats. I eventually won after I was able to split and reload my two remaining gunboats. Lesson learnt: in a fenn/kanan list (or really, any list), always gun for Fenn first no matter what.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Apparently Rebel Fenn was enough to get a local player to smash one of his minis and is rage-quitting the game. Ignore him, kill stuff anyway #Poeandfriends (To not be facetious, SO many lists these days are designed around tokenless or mostly tokenless killin stuff that it's really easy to design lists to kill even without (spending) tokens. Or just kill him he's softer than an x wing and has no native repositioning and lovely greens, dice and moves. Even with naked dice he ought to die quick. The trick with Sheathipede lists IME from flying them is focusing the sheathipede down first. It's not providing much firepower but it's probably providing about half the list's action economy and will have basically 0 defence.
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https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/21 Replace "doctor" with the pain-in-the-rear end support ship of your choice. Lowhhrick, Fenn, Palp shuttle...
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I have been practicing with double shadowcasters, and made the cut at regionals with it. In 3 games against lists with Kimogilas, I have 100-0'd them every time. Such a favorable matchup for me. They rely on target locks to shoot ordnance and mod dice, and I have countermeasures. They are low agility, small ships and I have tractor beams. They need their actions and have crappy greens (unless they have unhinged) and I can deal stress. They are slow, and shadowcasters are fast.
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canyoneer posted:I have been practicing with double shadowcasters, and made the cut at regionals with it. What's your usual loadout and strategy on a double 'caster list? I haven't seen one personally in a long time.
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Ketsu with Dengar, title, expertise, Assaj with Latts and PTL, both with scav crane and countermeasures. I bring the biggest asteroids and put the biggest and meanest one dead center. Arrange the rocks in a wagon wheel formation around it. Goal here is to put Ketsu in the middle, slowboating around the center and chucking people onto rocks while Assaj rips around the outside or between rocks drawing fire and shooting follow-ups on tractored ships. You don't need actions to hit anything with Ketsu with Dengar and expertise, so your actions are nearly always to rotate arc or evade. Use your tractors to manipulate range on enemies or plop them on rocks to deny shots. It's great when jousting two gunboats just outside range 1 that have you locked to use CM to bust one lock and stop the missile, and then tractor the second into R1 so they can't shoot missiles. Don't be afraid to tractor them out of your own arc and miss a chance for a shot on them if that means you're going to avoid taking a shot from them. This is your big damage dealer, and you don't want to lose Ketsu before you cripple their list. Asajj is doing PTL every turn. If you rotate the arc inwards and then do those fast green turns, you can clear stress easy and stay on target. Focus and evade if you're getting shot, focus and TL if you're expecting getting a big shot against a tractored target. The big learnings I had was to not be stingy with countermeasures. Especially if you expect to kill something in scav crane range that turn, go ahead and use them because you'll get them right back. You want to start out real aggressive, because trading some shields first round for 3 hull on Miranda or Nym is gonna be worth it.
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Do you try to keep the rocks pretty tight in the middle, or loosely enough that Ketsu has some breathing room?
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OK, here's my T70 squad revision: Poe Dameron (PS9) (33) Intensity (2) BB-8 (2) Primed Thrusters (1) Autothrusters (2) Black One (1) Jess Pava (25) R2-D6 (1) Sensor Cluster (2) Selflessness (1) Integrated Astromech (0) "Snap" Wexley (28) Adaptability (0) Flight-Assist Astromech (1) Primed Thrusters (1) Integrated Astromech (0) Total: 100 To make sure I'm thinking about this right: Start with them in formation with Poe in back, Jess acts a Biggs-Lite during joust, then Poe can break off to arc-dodge and Snap acts as a secondary arc-dodger once Jess bites it. Better?
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ConfusedUs posted:Do you try to keep the rocks pretty tight in the middle, or loosely enough that Ketsu has some breathing room? Somewhat loose. I like to keep the rocks a minimum of range 2.5 from the sides and like about a 1.5 range spacing between the center rock and the satellites. Ketsu really doesn't need much space, because you don't really care if you get blocked and you can cruise pretty freely with the white 1 bank and white 2 turn. The fear isn't that you bump a rock, the fear is that you land on one and miss shooting. But you also want to tractor small ships onto rocks, so you can't leave it too loose or else tractor barrel rolls won't get them there.
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TremorX posted:OK, here's my T70 squad revision: Much better. That list is surprisingly tanky, just FYI. If they shoot Poe, he's gonna take little-to-no damage from any single shot. If a big shot does get through, Jess takes it, and if they shoot her directly, she's quite tanky herself. Snap is hell on wheels against anything lower PS than he is, and is the easiest to kill...but also the least threatening against anything higher PS.
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Playing a casual game against a friend, where we base our builds off of ridiculous squad names. I'm going with The BaBaWook, but not sure how to kit out 2 wings with an auzi besides throwing some ion/manglers on them and just focus firing. Thoughts? https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...20BaBaWook&obs= adversely, I could just fly 3 naked bwing blue squad pilots with the auzi.... BR0ME0 fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jan 13, 2018 |
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ConfusedUs posted:https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/21 I'm a content creator now! 
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I*'m legit so glad I returned my ticket for the Cardiff regional. I hope whoever bought it had fun getting rekt by NymRanda. Ugh vindication has never felt so bitter and angry that list is just awful.
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thespaceinvader posted:I*'m legit so glad I returned my ticket for the Cardiff regional. I'm not going to waste my time doing it, but I am pretty sure this is said every year during regional season. Out of the three regionals I watched so far the winners have flown. Kylo + 2 Gunboats Nym + Miranda Poe + Fenn + Norra The winners I can look up on List Juggler and TTT. Quickdraw + 3 Gunboats Miranda + Dash Braylen + Rex + Thane + Jess Miranda + Nym Chewie + Poe I don't know the meta pretty drat wide open
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Cardiff in particular was bad because NymRanda made up 8/16 of the cut, 7 of the top 8, and 4 out of the top 4. Hopefully it's just a 1 off, but that list is a great toolbox and it's not easily countered.
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Nymranda is a real gnarly list, and is awful to play against. It has all the worst parts of X Wing: Small ship points fortress, infinite bombs, Sabine autodamage, TLT, regen, harpoon missiles
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This is what happens when you buff ordnance.
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This is what happens when you buff ordnance and bombs and put them both on high PS TLT carriers.
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What's the purpose of Genius in that list, some edge case where you probably won't be able to launch anymore bombs after this turn and you really want to get it far away? Other than him being 0 points. Edit: Also, R5-TK. Is it to use a cheap ship as an Assault/Ion/Scrambler delivery system? Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jan 14, 2018 |
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What's the purpose of Genius in that list, some edge case where you probably won't be able to launch anymore bombs after this turn and you really want to get it far away? Other than him being 0 points. With an extra munitions token on Bomblet Generator, Genius can punt the bomblet once without discarding the bomblet generator. It's really mean
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Just to be clear, Genius doesn't prevent allow punting/Trajectory Simulator. Genius let's you move, THEN drop or launch the bomb by spending your Bomb or Extra Munitions token. You can use Trajectory Simulator every turn without moving first if you want to.
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canyoneer posted:With an extra munitions token on Bomblet Generator, Genius can punt the bomblet once without discarding the bomblet generator. The best versions of the list use 2 normal deploy bombs, either proton or thermal or one of each, and bomblet on miranda. Then nym gets 4 launches if need be, and Mira gets infinite. It's such a hideous list, it has bascially every single play mode available to it and it can be among the top ships in the game right now at basically all of them. It's horrendous and it makes me so not look forward to the System Open.
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 I finally beat Han Solo with 5x Alpha pilots + Autothrusters
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Hey everyone, I heard that Nym and Fenn are hot right now and I cooked up a real cool list feel free to try it out. Sheathipede-class Shuttle: •Fenn Rau (27) •Phantom II (0) Pulsed Ray Shield (2) Veteran Instincts (1) Operations Specialist (3) Flight-Assist Astromech (1) Scurrg H-6 Bomber: •Captain Nym (48) Munitions Failsafe (1) •Havoc (0) Saturation Salvo (1) Autoblaster Turret (2) Proton Torpedoes (4) Cluster Missiles (4) •Bomblet Generator (3) Accuracy Corrector (3) •R5-TK (0) TIE Fighter: •Sabine Wren (25) Stealth Device (3) •Sabine's Masterpiece (1) Push the Limit (3) Recon Specialist (3) Total: 100/100 Now I'm not sure if Stealth Device counts for Saturation Salvo, and you're going to have to somehow influence your opponent to concentrate on Sabine, perhaps with an appeal to their honor. Why, you could potentially put one damage on every enemy ship, every round, while Sabine refuses to die!
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Need some of your guy's opinions. I have a hangar bay tournament coming up 70+ people. I am locked in on my 3x Tie/D Defenders because I have had a really good run murdering Nym/Miranda, but I am iffy on my second list. I could bring Nym/Miranda, but I'm worried people having that list as one of their 2 lists will not use it. If you had Nym/Miranda as one of your lists would you put it on the table if your opponent might put it out too?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:
If, on the other hand, SD said 'roll one additional defense die' or something, then no, it wouldn't have any bearing on if Saturation Salvo triggers. Also note that taking damage from Saturation Salvo wouldn't remove the SD from your ship, as this isn't an attack.
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Raged posted:Need some of your guy's opinions. I have a hangar bay tournament coming up 70+ people. I am locked in on my 3x Tie/D Defenders because I have had a really good run murdering Nym/Miranda, but I am iffy on my second list. I could bring Nym/Miranda, but I'm worried people having that list as one of their 2 lists will not use it. Most Nym/Mirandas are 100 or 99 points. If you had a Nym/Miranda with a bid, I wouldn't dare put one out, but otherwise I probably would.
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canyoneer posted:Most Nym/Mirandas are 100 or 99 points. If you had a Nym/Miranda with a bid, I wouldn't dare put one out, but otherwise I probably would. Yeah, I want people to put Nym/Miranda on the table so I might just use Dengar/Assaj as my second list. My thirst for using tractor beam/ion to run people off the table and make on reveal bombs useless will never be sated.
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i cant even watch streams anymore. the begging for money/donations every 5 minutes is getting ridiculous.
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banned from Starbucks posted:i cant even watch streams anymore. the begging for money/donations every 5 minutes is getting ridiculous. Stick to the Aussie streams. I don't think any of ours beg for money. Speaking of.... Onyx Squadron will be holding the "Summer Advanced Slam" this coming weekend and should be streaming 64 player 2 day tournament. I love going to their events. Just look up Onyx Squadron on YouTube. This is the winners prize and it is huge and made of leather and metal and is so much more amazing to see in person  Timetable AEST 
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TheCenturion posted:Stealth device straight up says 'increase your agility by one.' Saturation Salvo says 'blah blah with an agility value lower than the squad cost of the torp or missile card blah blah.' So yes, to determine if Saturation Salvo affects a ship, you look at it's total agility, which is printed agility plus stealth device, in this case. That's the spirit!
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Pfahahaha saturation salvo
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Raged posted:Stick to the Aussie streams. I don't think any of ours beg for money. This owns. PS: The San Antonio System Open was won by Yorr Palpshuttle, Inquisitor, Quickdraw. Against Nym + Miranda, no less. Imperial player didn't lose a single ship.
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Raged posted:Need some of your guy's opinions. I have a hangar bay tournament coming up 70+ people. I am locked in on my 3x Tie/D Defenders because I have had a really good run murdering Nym/Miranda, but I am iffy on my second list. I could bring Nym/Miranda, but I'm worried people having that list as one of their 2 lists will not use it. My strategy for Hangar Bay is to bring a) a list that counters whatever is "meta" and b) a list that shores up the biggest weakness of the first list So what's your triple defender list's biggest weakness?
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