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rovert posted:Something To Wrestle With: big deal
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Jan 12, 2018 05:15
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It's like Dave is a big dumb dinosaur and deserves all the poo poo he gets
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Jan 12, 2018 06:03
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Who knew Meltzer can be lazy, slobby and biased?
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Jan 12, 2018 06:49
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time to face the facts. Wrestling journalism has always been a young man's game
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rovert posted:Who knew Meltzer can be lazy, slobby and biased? trevor spelled backwards, mike.
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Jan 12, 2018 06:52
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i get all my wrestling scoopz from anonymous people on twitter who only post out-of-context screenshots accompanied by the thinking emoji
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Jan 12, 2018 06:52
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Seams posted:i get all my wrestling scoopz from anonymous people on twitter who only post out-of-context screenshots accompanied by the thinking emoji And Instagram status updates.
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Jan 12, 2018 07:01
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rovert posted:Who knew Meltzer can be lazy, slobby and biased? It’s not every day that we get irrefutable proof of it, then have him double down on his error.
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Jan 12, 2018 07:23
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*Dave reports Mania 33 top matches at least 3 months in advance, including an AJ/Shane match that sounds like a bad joke* "lol Dave knows nothing" *Dave reports Mania 34 top matches 3 months in advance, which are almost certainly happening* "lol Dave has no sources left"
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Jan 12, 2018 07:26
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mkay0 posted:It’s not every day that we get irrefutable proof of it, then have him double down on his error. For example: https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/951548845309100032 https://twitter.com/Mariobrosfan94/status/951691520914141184 https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/951701211283054592
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Jan 12, 2018 07:27
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Benne posted:*Dave reports Mania 33 top matches at least 3 months in advance, including an AJ/Shane match that sounds like a bad joke* Man, Jericho's not even in the company right now, what's the excuse gonna be this time?
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Jan 12, 2018 07:28
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I decided to take a listen to the Best of 2017, but when the #50 entry took 20 loving minutes to complete I just gave up and read what the list was.
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Jan 12, 2018 08:34
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Benne posted:*Dave reports Mania 33 top matches at least 3 months in advance, including an AJ/Shane match that sounds like a bad joke* https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/951476277336268801
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Jan 12, 2018 09:59
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wow THE brad shepard??
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Jan 12, 2018 10:08
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when dave was hinting about it weeks ago?
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Jan 12, 2018 10:30
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Seams posted:wow THE brad shepard?? I've been putting A Brad Shepard in a THE Brad Shepard box for years now and my kids can't even tell the difference!
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Jan 12, 2018 11:44
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Lol his “sourcing” was looking at that Hall of Fame list and assuming that since Taker wasn’t on it, he was coming back. Nobody needs to suck his dick online because he guessed right.
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Jan 12, 2018 13:22
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I will never understand why people take Meltzer as gospel when he's pretty clear that he's just doing his best take on things/ratings and ruminations don't really need to be backed up
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Jan 12, 2018 13:32
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After being away from WON since last summer, I found that Dave was a little hard to listen to. The Bryan and Vinny show is always fun, though. I figured I would grab all of the B & V episodes I had missed since then, but I foolishly missed August somehow. I am kicking myself for it now.  I had heard a fair bit about what is now known as Post Wrestling ( previously known as Review-a-Wai, I believe). Is there a particular episode from those guys that is a standout to a new listener?
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Jan 12, 2018 14:18
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I like to read Dave's stuff and I appreciate his opinion and insight but yeah, I can't listen to him. It flips some sort of instant irritation switch in my mind most of the time with how he talks. It's hurried and stuttering and all around not a great voice for radio or podcasts
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Jan 12, 2018 14:57
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I really enjoy the Dave shows when he is not talking about UFC but the main source of entertainment are the B&V shows for me.
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Jan 12, 2018 15:35
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I have started skipping ahead or skipping entirely when UFC pops up in shows. It's not a problem with Dave it's just I honestly could not give a poo poo about MMA period.Jerusalem posted:I decided to take a listen to the Best of 2017, but when the #50 entry took 20 loving minutes to complete I just gave up and read what the list was. Also I'm pretty sure the main way I got through this is due to having a job I can listen to podcasts at. Some of those bits were way longer than needed to be.
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#50 absolutely needed to be that long. The whole thing is like 7 hours but I had two 3 hour drives over the holidays so I got through it with ease.
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Jan 12, 2018 17:42
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I was mainly interested in that one because I've been to both of those restaurants he mentioned
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Jan 12, 2018 17:47
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If you didn't enjoy the saga of Bryan's bread then you and I listen to F4W family of podcasts for very different reasons
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Jan 12, 2018 17:50
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I liked when he spent $60 on take out sandwiches for two people.
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Jan 12, 2018 17:59
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chucked my F4W sub after the abysmal Elgin coverage. Completely irresponsible.
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MassRafTer posted:I liked when he spent $60 on take out sandwiches for two people. I liked the implication that there was a good Italian restaurant in the PNW
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Jan 12, 2018 18:32
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I liked the implication that there was a good Italian restaurant in the PNW Well he couldn't go anywhere else because Sergio's is so good. But the other place is better, but expensive and a different kind of good, so he went to Panera where they have no bread. Also where is the Pillman book WOR?
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coconono posted:chucked my F4W sub after the abysmal Elgin coverage. Completely irresponsible. I just did too, gonna swap it out for the POST Wrestling Patreon.
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Jan 12, 2018 18:53
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Is there somewhere that summarizes the whole Elgin situation? I see snippets of things here and on twitter but I’m not really sure what has happened.
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Jan 12, 2018 18:57
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Jan 12, 2018 18:59
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I'm ashamed to admit it but when I first start listening I thought the Granny segments were a waste of time and couldn't wait for them to be over.
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Incessant Excess posted:I'm ashamed to admit it but when I first start listening I thought the Granny segments were a waste of time and couldn't wait for them to be over. I liked them for a few years but not so much anymore.
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Jan 12, 2018 19:14
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I like it because it's a big differentiator to the other two B&V shows. I mean you've got Craig for the Retro Raw/Nitro show but that dynamic isn't really all that different since those shows aren't about Craig, whereas the Granny segment is very much about her.
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Ghostpilot posted:I had heard a fair bit about what is now known as Post Wrestling ( previously known as Review-a-Wai, I believe). Is there a particular episode from those guys that is a standout to a new listener? They did best/worst of 2017 shows the past couple of weeks which are basically exactly like the year end episodes of the LAW. Those were ok. I haven't listened to anything else from them yet but I have to believe it's just like their old shows.
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MassRafTer posted:Well he couldn't go anywhere else because Sergio's is so good. I'm guessing it'll be available this afternoon.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Is there somewhere that summarizes the whole Elgin situation? I see snippets of things here and on twitter but I’m not really sure what has happened. Here's the deal as best as I can summarize: -Lady gets sexually assaulted at an Elgin-promoted show by an Elgin-trained wrestler -When confronted about it, Elgin decided she was lying and did nothing -Elgin, for whatever, reason keeps a communication line open to the woman. -Elgin says repeatedly lovely things to her like "are you gonna suck my dick or what" -Also said bizzare things "Jeff Cobb smells bad" and "I'm the #2 gaijin in NJPW everyone loves me" -Lady screencaps all this and after realizing Elgin wasn't going to do poo poo, goes public -Elgin flips out, reiterates she's a liar, whore, etc etc. -War Machine took their 30 second camera walkin promo spot during the NJPW entrances and exits to loudly proclaim "gently caress MICHAEL ELGIN" -word in the air is that NJPW is none too pleased with this situation and are looking very closely at if they should cut Elgin or not -Dave Meltzer takes Elgin's side in all this, tries to downplay it, engages in victim blaming on his radio show -when questioned on the Board, Meltzer's proof was some tumblr-level blog post saying Elgin is absolved and Lady really is bad because she has sex and stuff. Someone getting hurt, even if its not sexual abuse/rape is damning to a promoter. The last thing you do is ignore that it happened. Doing nothing says you do not give a single gently caress about the people coming to see your shows. Being lovely to fans, also damning.
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coconono posted:Here's the deal as best as I can summarize: Thanks for this. I guess Elgin is a source for Dave? Either way, I don’t think I’ll bother renewing my observer subscription when it comes up next.
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