necroid posted:

honestly, I haven't watched your video but this guy's comment doesn't really strike me as an attack, it reads more like a surprisingly reasonable critique.

as you say I like most people haven't experienced your frustrations, but I've been wondering if you coming here and posting screenshots of your sick youtube owns is really necessary, just like publishing a cigar smoking manifesto of the reasons why you're going to totally make cig your bitch

no hard feelings but to me it feels just like Derek's attention-grabbing posturing, actions usually speak louder than words...

Toops posted:

How much you in for?

necroid posted:

been here since the doobie threads buddy

necroid posted:

lol are you serious, are you aware you're acting just like shitizens? do we have to preface our posts with disclaimers like they do?

anyway unlike dozens of people itt I have never given money to the thumbman

necroid posted:

lol are you serious, are you aware you're acting just like shitizens? do we have to preface our posts with disclaimers like they do?

anyway unlike dozens of people itt I have never given money to the thumbman

The Titanic posted:

And only 5% of mine are worth even looking at. In fact, just the need to scroll by my dumb poo poo should be enough for most people to just give up and close the whole browser instead. Then later reopen it after a period of recovery and just let the page automatically skip to the whole next page for you.

necroid posted:

lol are you serious, are you aware you're acting just like shitizens? do we have to preface our posts with disclaimers like they do?

anyway unlike dozens of people itt I have never given money to the thumbman

Raskolnikov posted:

No but you're right. Street roller was asking for it. So we cool now? Tell me about your space guild. I'm in between guilds at the moment and a bit on the market if you know what I mean.

PederP posted:

Well, it also looks like Streetroller the Boneless has challenged King Crobberts to a legal holmgang in the icy wastelands of New Jersey. If Crobberts doesn't show he shall be known as a Nidding, cursed by men and gods alike. Such a brand would weaken him even further in the coming battle against the Skadden warrior-mystic, McMinnick.

necroid posted:

serious post: no he was not asking for it, people on the internet are mean little shits because they don't have to face the consequences of their mean little attacks. still, that guy's comment struck me as not completely unreasonable. was it necessary for streetroller to make and post that video, knowing the mindset of the average sc cultist? was it necessary to come here and post screencaps of the obviously hosed up poo poo they said?

in my opinion the right thing would've been to sue, maybe announce it with a post in the thread and then shut up until the thing was done. maybe update the thread once in a while.

going back to lurking now, c u in the v

necroid posted:

lol are you serious, are you aware you're acting just like shitizens? do we have to preface our posts with disclaimers like they do?

boviscopophobic posted:

I watched that "gameplay" and the main source of any interest was the guy worrying that he'd lose his ship and real-money weapons due to bugs. When he returns to Olisar he worries that he hasn't done a good enough parking job to keep his ship, so he makes multiple auto-land attempts which all try to kill him. At the end he reveals that he bought two M7A weapons for real money, lost them both to bugs, and has now bought a third.



$15.30 * 3 = $45.90

Combat Theory posted:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/217905283?t=35m22s

This is the bit where Erin talks about Space Combat.

oh my... where to begin where to begin...

So first of all he doesnt even talk much about the issue. he just adopted Chris way of filling time with words without actually giving out information. What he does give out though is enough to redeem that CIG has learned absolutely 0, Nada , Nothing from the disastrous combat experiences following 2.6.

Notice how Erin, after strolling around the main issue, brings up that the only point he wants to adress in the combat experience is the "shooting at pixels" bit. That is quote on quote the same poo poo that Chris ruled down in 2.6 and that ruined the little bit of consistency in Combat design that was left at the end of 2016.

As i wrote last summer, the Dynamics of Space combat in regards to good gameplay are one of the most complicated and technical topics and require excellent knowledge of both vehicle dynamics and gameplay mechanics as well as game experience. What Erin did is just closing the Circle to 1 1/2 Years ago. CIG, as a company, has learned absolutely nothing on the matter. And whatever comes out of the lawsuits, it is absolutely clear that this company does not have the Quality in house that is needed to even design a good combat model and experience, let alone balancing and porting it into an open world MMO enviroment.

Notice how Erin fills this obvious lack of understanding for the matter with regards to his "former Games" which are all but meaningless for the matter of Space combat and vehicle dynamics especially in a multiplayer enviroment.

Again, just like in 2.6 all they can think of regarding vehicle dynamics is speed. that there is literally hundreds of parameters going into the IFCS to create just the basic flight characteristics (let alone the high order combat characteristics) seems to be not only a complete mistery to the one guy who is supposed to make a game out if this, he seems to be completely unaware of them. And this is 4 Years after the initial release of the spaceflight and combat module. Its like time is ticking backwards and the more we progress the less CIG understands about basic gameplay and design. Amazing

A first step? the team keeps on working on it? this is the same team that couldnt do basic vehicle dynamics... feck... high school physics at the end of 2016 and judging by the state of 3.0 and especially this RTV, they have not learned a singe bit.

Quavers posted:

Pft, combat in 3.0 is perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6gNEUlmVg





Also

TheLastRoboKy posted:

Controversial and almost-shitizen-like opinion incoming sir: The youtube comment you were rushing to the defense of was bad and helped contribute to make your post pretty bad too. It's a youtube comment that has the opinion that calling shitizens shitheads for mocking the dude for his physical disabilities are garbage makes everyone just as bad as the guys mocking the dude for his physical disabilities.

I don't know what you wanted or expected but please don't pretend like you're hard done by when people mock you for what you wrote.

Streetroller posted:

necroid posted:

honestly, I haven't watched your video but this guy's comment doesn't really strike me as an attack, it reads more like a surprisingly reasonable critique.

as you say I like most people haven't experienced your frustrations, but I've been wondering if you coming here and posting screenshots of your sick youtube owns is really necessary, just like publishing a cigar smoking manifesto of the reasons why you're going to totally make cig your bitch

no hard feelings but to me it feels just like Derek's attention-grabbing posturing, actions usually speak louder than words...

Combat Theory posted:

And this is 4 Years after the initial release of the spaceflight and combat module. Its like time is ticking backwards and the more we progress the less CIG understands about basic gameplay and design. Amazing

A first step? the team keeps on working on it? this is the same team that couldnt do basic vehicle dynamics... feck... high school physics at the end of 2016 and judging by the state of 3.0 and especially this RTV, they have not learned a singe bit.

AbstractNapper posted:

You do know when stuff like that happens, right?
1. When there's no design document.

necroid posted:

ok damned if I do answer, damned if I don't.

necroid posted:

ok damned if I do answer, damned if I don't.


first of all, I didn't "rush to the defense" of this guy's comment: seeing that comment made me want to post what I've been thinking for a while, which is that streetroller's posting itt of youtube comments on his video serves no purpose. I also think that his video wasn't necessary, because suing and getting poo poo done in my humble opinion is better than talking about it. this is what i said:


rereading it I understand how maybe "surprisingly reasonable critique" may sound like I fell in love with the guy and that I now want to donate all my savings to the thumbman, bad choice of words. I should've said "surprisingly reasonable critique for a guy who gave some of his money to chris roberts"

let me put it in even simpler terms:
mocking disabled people = BAD
attention-grabbing = BAD
mocking shitizens = GOOD
getting poo poo done = GOOD

necroid posted:

lol are you serious, are you aware you're acting just like shitizens? do we have to preface our posts with disclaimers like they do?

anyway unlike dozens of people itt I have never given money to the thumbman

necroid posted:

honestly, I haven't watched your video but this guy's comment doesn't really strike me as an attack, it reads more like a surprisingly reasonable critique.

necroid posted:

first of all, I didn't "rush to the defense" of this guy's comment: seeing that comment made me want to post what I've been thinking for a while, which is that streetroller's posting itt of youtube comments on his video serves no purpose. I also think that his video wasn't necessary, because suing and getting poo poo done in my humble opinion is better than talking about it. this is what i said:

Streetroller posted:

Oh yes, cause telling me I sound like someone who's about to go on a loving shooting spree is completely reasonable.
That couldn't possibly be character assassination and fear-mongering

I'm documenting my experience with this community first and fore-most, and posting it here for expose. I don't give a poo poo about "sick burns".
If that poo poo ever comes back to me, I want to know who said it and when.
Bonus: Some people find it entertaining to peer into the sick minds of some of these people.


I am getting poo poo done. I'm just being public about to expose this scam, like Derek.
Such as: I didn't just go feed the homeless in Philadelphia, I filmed a video about how they were throwing them in jail because nobody gave a gently caress and I protested Mayor Nutter at the time.
Do you think I just disappear off the face of the Earth when I'm not filming? No, I do a lot of community building in my real life that isn't on camera.

But one thing is for certain. I am here for attention. If you say you're not, you're just lying.
But like you said, damned if you do damned if you don't.
What about me then? If I never exposed it in to begin with, I don't think I would of ever gotten as much head-way.
On the flip-side, I wouldn't have to deal with shitheads either.

So don't tell me I'm not doing poo poo. I opened the floodgates that made it possible to get a refund. Now I'm attempting to make it abundantly clear that it is illegal to even deny you for any reason, and jump through those legal hoops.
I'm jumping through this for you, and not just for Star Citizen either. I'm not just talking about suing, I am!!!
When it's all over I'll update you -- win or lose.

You can eat your chips and dip while I'm freezing in the cold.