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The Saddest Robot posted:The impression I got during the Kickstarter and which has been reinforced several times is that Chris Roberts adheres to the belief that CPU and GPUs are so powerful now that all technical problems can be tackled with brute force. It's even better than that. He believes that future hardware generations _will be_ powerful enough for that. He referenced Moores law in the earlier days of the campaign a lot. Moores law is done at this point. Old man Moore even said so himself in 2007, claiming in 10 years at that point the curve of hardware improvement would flatten. And by 2015 Intel officially dropped Moores law as it's product release guideline. With the established 14nm production we have 1 maybe 2 iterations left until classic silicon die processors can't be improved by further down scaling anymore due to quantum tunneling effects and the challenges to even get to this process have been increasing exponentially already. Yet 5 years later Chris sold star citizen on the prophecy that Moore himself canceled half a decade ago. And the pun at the end? The performance limitations of star citizen aren't Hardware dependent in the sense of classic Moores law performing improvements even. They are symptoms of an antiquated engine that nowadays is only dragged out of the back shelf to do some fancy machinima and home made animation projects. Star Citizen in a nutshell 
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PrimeNerd posted:Stuff about moma Come on, friend. Find your inner peace and chill.  Moma is welcome to his opinion just like you are. Keep it level and and non threatening or insinuating self harm. That’s never cool or nice.
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Jan 13, 2018 21:45
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Combat Theory posted:The performance limitations of star citizen aren't Hardware dependent in the sense of classic Moores law performing improvements even. They are symptoms of an antiquated engine that nowadays is only dragged out of the back shelf to do some fancy machinima and home made animation projects. I thought they were hosed because networking 1,000 players into a high fidelity, single shard, simulation of a universe is a joke.
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Jan 13, 2018 21:48
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The Saddest Robot posted:The impression I got during the Kickstarter and which has been reinforced several times is that Chris Roberts adheres to the belief that CPU and GPUs are so powerful now that all technical problems can be tackled with brute force. I have said this before as well. I’m not sure if he thinks like this because that’s how he did it in the 90’s, or if he just refuses to believe video games today can function and be huge not because computers can do everything, but because the smart people building them have employed incredible tricks to get things to do what they do.
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Jan 13, 2018 21:48
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The Titanic posted:I have said this before as well. I’m not sure if he thinks like this because that’s how he did it in the 90’s, or if he just refuses to believe video games today can function and be huge not because computers can do everything, but because the smart people building them have employed incredible tricks to get things to do what they do. the tricks are only because they don't have CR's ambition to solve every problem with brute force.
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Jan 13, 2018 21:50
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Galarox posted:Chrislito's way was requested, here it is. You can see that Oldparp and Ortwin are trying to intimidate the jury while Crobbles handwaves: I would love to see your approach to making these.
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Jan 13, 2018 21:50
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Need help for a shop - I need this re-written from a goon perspective, with the good Doctor Derek involved if poss (but that's not vital, just needs to be snappy) "In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team." I am so, so stuck.... I got as far as: "In 2017 a crap commando unit was sent to prison by a civil court for a crime they almost certainly commited." Then I ran out of ideas.
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Jan 13, 2018 21:53
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Raskolnikov posted:I love the thread title. There's no scam I can see Since I bought Fidelity But a better poster than I should finish the Ballad of Fidelity.
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Galarox posted:Chrislito's way was requested, here it is. You can see that Oldparp and Ortwin are trying to intimidate the jury while Crobbles handwaves: This is spectacular
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Jan 13, 2018 21:54
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G0RF posted:I don’t think they’re about to die. I think I’ve been fairly cautious about that because we don’t know, won’t know, can’t know cash positions and even if we did we wouldn’t know whether additional arrangements exist which could extend CIG’s life. basically erin is saying that if he were to develop star citizen instead of chris a lot of stuff would be different. He also talks how Chris vision suckered even him into the project, because the project was ambitious. Just listen beaten man talk as bonus it talks how star citizen is the new second-life .
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Jan 13, 2018 21:55
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The Titanic posted:I also don’t see why moma won’t play SC with The Agent. I don’t think The Agent has ever burned somebody in all the times he’s been given some info, even when that info came from obviously fake sources. Moma can't let his Star Citizen identity leak because he'll be active on twitter and reddit defending the faith, possibly twitch too.
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Dark Off posted:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/217905283?t=46m46s for one thing, with Erin at the helm, Star Citizen would've been a Lego re-skin, so quite different
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Jason Sextro posted:the tricks are only because they don't have CR's ambition to solve every problem with brute force. One thing I’ve learned in my stay in the programming industry: When somebody is faced with a difficult situation and somebody has a solution to the problem, but the decision makers don’t want to do it even if it makes sense and is not cost prohibitive, it’s usually a case where they don’t understand either the problem or the solution fully. Sticking with what you know vs the reality of something growing beyond your capability to understand it can be a harrowing experience. Sometimes as a leader you just need to let your experts be experts, because that’s why you have them on your team. I’m not saying this is every situation, because sometimes there are very good business reasons to not do something. But in CRs case I think he brays about “no tricks!” because he doesn’t understand them, and utterly refuses to let his experts do their job. He probably no longer has experts though, so brute force probably is the only allowed paradigm.
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Galarox posted:Need help for a shop - I need this re-written from a goon perspective, with the good Doctor Derek involved if poss (but that's not vital, just needs to be snappy) I tried. "In 2016 a Space Commando named Derek Smart was Banned by a Forum Mod for a Crime he thinks he didn't commit. Derek promptly escaped his permaban from Something Awful by paying Lowtax his tenbux and starting his own forum. Today, still hounded by Star Citizens, he survives as a self quoting and doxxing Herald of the ELE. If you have a problem, and can let him loving finish, maybe you can hire the A-Team. And FURTHERMOREEEEEE!!!!"
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The Titanic posted:
I also suspect that CR simply philosophically disagrees with tricks of any kind, possibly because he thinks they compromise the all-important fidelity and/or immersion.
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Galarox posted:Need help for a shop - I need this re-written from a goon perspective, with the good Doctor Derek involved if poss (but that's not vital, just needs to be snappy) These men promptly glitched out through a garage door to the back side of Los Angeles. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of misfortune. If you have a successful project, if no one else can ruin it, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the Parp team.
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SomethingJones posted:There's an amazing documentary by the brilliant Adam Curtis called 'Hypernormalisation' that delves into these matters quote:The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore." He continued "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." That was Karl Rove over a decade ago. They've been making poo poo up for a long time.
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DapperDon posted:I would love to see your approach to making these. Welp - my CIG pshop folder is 3.25 gigs. Last time someone asked about this ITT it was at about 2 gigs I think. It's all about trawling the poo poo which CIG have posted online to find the equivalent of "le bon mot" ie- the ideal screencap or pic to use in in any given shop. It sometimes takes hours and hours... and hours to get it right and then, wierdly, it sometimes takes minutes. I have no idea which is more satisfying. I just love the end results, 
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Bofast posted:How about continuing like this? perfect thanks
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AP posted:If he does these walkabouts as a regular thing it will be harder and harder to hide the empty office of Yeah they may need a cardboard cutout sitting behind the desk. If they whip one up loving gazing at some piece of Wing Commander arcana, the backers would never know.
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Thoatse posted:Hello cool and good pgi dudebro. I was just sharing my cautious optimism about MW5 with some folks, a lot of potential there in itself plus it could possibly be the mech game that sets the standard for the genre om VR I’ve generally avoided all news of MW5 in the studio. Most of the reveals at Mech Con were a surprise to me as well. I haven’t even played it yet, despite having access to the private VIP booth with the 40” 4K display. I want to play it as close to the final game as I can.
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Galarox posted:Need help for a shop - I need this re-written from a goon perspective, with the good Doctor Derek involved if poss (but that's not vital, just needs to be snappy) It should end: If you have a problem, if you need a floor mopping, and if you can find the instance they are in, maybe you can hire the Parp-Team.
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Galarox posted:Need help for a shop - I need this re-written from a goon perspective, with the good Doctor Derek involved if poss (but that's not vital, just needs to be snappy) PM'd
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Galarox posted:Welp - my CIG pshop folder is 3.25 gigs. Last time someone asked about this ITT it was at about 2 gigs I think. It's all about trawling the poo poo which CIG have posted online to find the equivalent of "le bon mot" ie- the ideal screencap or pic to use in in any given shop. It sometimes takes hours and hours... and hours to get it right and then, wierdly, it sometimes takes minutes. I have no idea which is more satisfying. I just love the end results, What is your process for editing and layout? Or is it more of an organic freeform of creative inspiration?
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Dark Off posted:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/217905283?t=46m46s Yeah the Second Life comment was the biggest reveal in a largely non-substantive discussion with a shrinking, slouching former Lego Game reskinner upon whose shoulders rests all the hopes of the biggest consumer funded gaming project in history. It made me sit up straight to hear it, even as it makes him slouch to say it.
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The Titanic posted:I can’t believe it’s true, but if it is it’s utterly hilarious. Especially to bugs. This would make CIG hands down the worst game company ever, even if their product was mostly functional. It's not bugs (well, the ship exploding for whatever reason is a bug), it's *designed* to be that way. Your LTI only covers the base ship, any add-ons that you add and get destroyed, for whatever reason, are supposed to be lost, unless you also insure them, which is not possible right now. That is what citizens pay big bucks for, that's part of the dream. (This is of course only an accident caused by poo poo code, but, for some twisted monkey-paw reason, it ended up creating exactly what was advertised)
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with thanks to Bofast and thanks to the others who responded, but Bofast's was perfect imo.
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G0RF posted:Yeah the Second Life comment was the biggest reveal in a largely non-substantive discussion with a shrinking, slouching former Lego Game reskinner upon whose shoulders rests all the hopes of the biggest consumer funded gaming project in history. Its not what he had to say which made him slouch. Its the unjust enrichment that has enhanced his lifestyle beyond his dreams that has allowed him to get very fat to cause the slouching. When most people come in to new money, the first thing that happens is they put on a LOT of weight. Look at Chris and Erin when they first popped on the scene and then compare it to now.
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Galarox posted:with thanks to Bofast and thanks to the others who responded, but Bofast's was perfect imo.  
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Galarox posted:with thanks to Bofast and thanks to the others who responded, but Bofast's was perfect imo. Beautiful work. I am always amazed (and a little jealous) of the creativity, experience, and big-brains that this thread has managed to attract.
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DapperDon posted:What is your process for editing and layout? Or is it more of an organic freeform of creative inspiration? That's like asking Siegfried and Roy how to they made their cats disappear and reappear
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Galarox posted:with thanks to Bofast and thanks to the others who responded, but Bofast's was perfect imo.
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Galarox posted:with thanks to Bofast and thanks to the others who responded, but Bofast's was perfect imo. 
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Abuminable posted:That's like asking Siegfried and Roy how to they made their cats disappear and reappear Not when one is trying to learn from a true master of their craft.
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Galarox posted:with thanks to Bofast and thanks to the others who responded, but Bofast's was perfect imo. Amazing
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G0RF posted:I don’t think they’re about to die. I think I’ve been fairly cautious about that because we don’t know, won’t know, can’t know cash positions and even if we did we wouldn’t know whether additional arrangements exist which could extend CIG’s life. There's a distinction to be made between judging the potential future and longevity of CIG on speculated income, and judging it on the fruit of its production. Using income/optics/self-owns is shaky ground and easily dismissed for exactly the reason you give - it's superficial, albeit fun and hilarious. Looking at their releases is a solid way to start thinking about where this is all headed. They are getting worse. I get the impression that Chris is hidden from view for the same reason the 3.0 test builds were watermarked and hidden from view. Chris sitting in front of a camera making promises and talking about all this exciting stuff coming in 2 weeks is just old and sad and broken. In fact everything they've released to date is old and sad and broken, even the shills sound old and sad and broken. I can't see how they will claw back even the superficial side of their - let's be honest - marketing videos. If Erin is the get stuff done guy I want to see him getting stuff done, not sitting talking poo poo on a marketing video. It's done G0rf, we're watching it circling the drain.
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DapperDon posted:What is your process for editing and layout? Or is it more of an organic freeform of creative inspiration? Ok well for the shop I just posted I tried Sandi and Oldparp as BA Baracus and it didn't quite work - so I was casting about for something that would. About 3 hours in by this point and then it occured to me that the good Doctor would be perfect for BA (I pity the
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DapperDon posted:Not when one is trying to learn from a true master of their craft. Just bullshitting... you know that!!
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Galarox posted:with thanks to Bofast and thanks to the others who responded, but Bofast's was perfect imo. lmao amazing
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