|
Grand Fromage posted:lol good luck with that. After 2020 you just ban the media from ever mentioning poverty in the countryside. "No more poor country folk".
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 08:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 19:20 |
|
|
vlad tempe had some pretty progressive ideas about eliminating the poor also
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 08:25
|
|
|
The rate they're salting their own earth, I guess there can't be poor country folk if your country consists of the settings of Fallout and Blade Runner in sum.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 09:49
|
|
|
Ups_rail posted:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-blasts-own-lazy-military-and-prepares-for-war/ar-AAuAPcO?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp2 Well this certainly explains what I was watching on CCTV news over Dim Sum. gently caress.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 12:17
|
|
|
TOPICAL: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcai...s/#2a4c6aeb5cc0 quote:7 Days Into Its Release, Chinese Theaters Abandon 'The Last Jedi,' Dumping 92% Of Its Screenings
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 16:58
|
|
|
1000$ on interracial relationship please
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 17:14
|
|
|
Star Wars Yoda ghost no good? That is holy poo poo bad. I know they don't have the following almost every part of the world has for Star Wars but they will just about watch anything and just by raw population produce big numbers.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 18:42
|
|
|
I still cannot discern parody https://twitter.com/DragonWong2024/status/951728950744563719
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 18:56
|
|
|
Devils Affricate posted:I would love for them to pursue this angle of attack, only to be utterly confused by the complete lack of butthurt other countries exhibit when it comes to such issues. https://yescalifornia.org/ It is a real thing.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 23:28
|
|
|
Humbug Scoolbus posted:https://yescalifornia.org/ As a southern Californian, I wish for nothing more than secession and the consequent conquering and splitting of California
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2018 23:37
|
|
|
Moonshine Rhyme posted:As a southern Californian, I wish for nothing more than secession and the consequent conquering and splitting of California As a northern Californian, sure; but you get to keep San Bernardino.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 01:46
|
|
|
Devils Affricate posted:I would love for them to pursue this angle of attack, only to be utterly confused by the complete lack of butthurt other countries exhibit when it comes to such issues. I would love for the rest of the world's governments to do the ambassadorial version of a "HellBan", and everyone else just pretends that they can't hear the CCP's autistic screeching whenever they get butthurt over something trivial.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 05:41
|
|
|
my wife told me there is a guy in shandong whose wife is pregnant and he's going around to all of his neighbors in the building and saying "my wife is pregnant, please turn off all of your wifi networks, also if you have dogs or cats, please send them away or get rid of them"
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 05:43
|
|
|
Moonshine Rhyme posted:As a southern Californian, I wish for nothing more than secession and the consequent conquering and splitting of California Sure, we'll drat up all the water canals and Southern California can return to it's natural state.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 06:03
|
|
|
angel opportunity posted:my wife told me there is a guy in shandong whose wife is pregnant and he's going around to all of his neighbors in the building and saying "my wife is pregnant, please turn off all of your wifi networks, also if you have dogs or cats, please send them away or get rid of them" “Please send away or get rid of your wife.”
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 06:04
|
|
|
Humbug Scoolbus posted:https://yescalifornia.org/ It's a real, Russian, thing. Funded in part by the Kremlin. Headquartered in Moscow. Founded and lead by a Russian.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 06:15
|
|
|
The difference here is that Chinese people are "conditioned" (brainwashed would likely be more accurate) to for some reason treat the issue of Taiwan and its relationship to China as something DEEPLY emotional and important. The same deal with Tibet. If some dude from another country comes up to me and says "I think Texas should be its own country," I will just shrug and say whatever. I literally don't care. It's an incredibly stupid and dense comparison too because Taiwan is de-facto a sovereign state, so whatever someone thinks about it is so completely irrelevant. Tibet can be more of a good comparison because it is not actually independent, unlike Taiwan. The closest you could do would probably argue that Hawaii should be independent and was just bought by the US 50 years ago, and if someone truly believed that and had reasons for it I feel very few Americans would have some visceral reaction of anger or rage at the suggestion of this. When you see these dumbass wumao types suddenly doing the "well I think California should be free!!!" they are trying to show you how they feel, but it doesn't work because we were never brainwashed this way. In actual non-poo poo countries, you could get something like this with Northern Ireland, the Falklands, Turkish Cyprus, etc., but even then I feel like most people on either side of those are at least able to acknowledge the status quo rather than just raging out irrationally. Though probably Cyprus and the Falklands do get a fair share of nationalist dumbasses raging about it. Taiwan is such a weird one for anyone not Chinese because in no way is it part of China. You have to just completely shut your self off to the reality of the situation to see that one. If a Chinese person asks you "what you think" on this, there is no way to rationally say it's part of China because that makes no loving sense. I know enough about China to know that "CHINA" is this stretched definition that is a grander meaning than any other nation state in the world, and this is part of how Chinese people delude themselves into saying that Taiwan is part of "CHINA" but it's never going to work on anyone not brainwashed into that definition of the word. Tibet is like...clearly no one in Tibet (or Xinjiang) who isn't a Han Chinese wants to actually be part of China. They were forcibly annexed and occupied, and that sucks. Unless China really starts crumbling though, they are kind of hosed. I think Hong Kong is hosed too. If we are going to be realistic here and acknowledge the status quo like we do with Taiwan, I think it's fair to not include them on a "list of countries," because they lost their sovereignty just like any country that was forcibly occupied did. At some point you have to acknowledge that, and trying to say "Tibet is a country" when it realistically stands no chance of regaining independence is just kind of a pointless argument to make at this point.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 06:28
|
|
|
just as a note, there are a lot of rurals in hawaii that want a return to independence. you see a lot of posters, bumper stickers, and the occasional billboard to that effect when you get out of the cities, which you will do quite often if you want to do some real snorkeling, hiking, etc. of course nobody takes them seriously because hawaii would fold in on itself instantly if it were independent. it has this image as a jewel of the pacific but it’s so loving far from everything and has so few people that going down to the goddamn store for your favorite soda has a 50/50 chance of ending in disappointment because nobody knows what the shipping containers are going to have before they crack them open, and this rock that is literally 5000 miles away from anything isn’t worth making hard promises to. last time I was there I ended up in a dive bar with some dock workers and they were super blunt about the fact that most of the ships they see in are delivering stone cold essentials only and anything beyond that is “we couldn’t sell this poo poo at the last port, you want it?”
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 07:56
|
|
|
USA has been part of the British Empire for 5000 years.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 08:07
|
|
|
Doesn’t Hawaii also get hosed over by American rules to protect the domestic shipping industry?
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 08:13
|
|
|
Pirate Radar posted:Doesn’t Hawaii also get hosed over by American rules to protect the domestic shipping industry? The Jones Act hurts, yeah. If you’re taking widgets directly from Hong Kong to Hawai‘i, you can do it however you want. But if you want to take something from Long Beach to Honolulu, by sea, it has to be on a ship flagged in the U.S., owned by U.S. entities, and crewed by U.S. citizens. Even the ship itself has to be built in the U.S.. That’s expensive. There are fewer than 100 ships operating today that meet the requirements. The act has been in force since 1920 and the ships themselves are almost that old.† †The real figure is 31 years. Compare to the global average of 11 years. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Jan 14, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 08:47
|
|
|
Taiwan is the six counties and they're just being very tiocfaidh ar la
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 11:42
|
|
|
I had a weird experience with buying apples in Hawaii that had been grown in New Zealand, shipped to Washington State, stored, then reshipped to Hawaii. Logistics are neat.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 14:08
|
|
|
Free Market Mambo posted:I had a weird experience with buying apples in Hawaii that had been grown in New Zealand, shipped to Washington State, stored, then reshipped to Hawaii. Logistics are neat. Awesome post/username combo.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 14:13
|
|
|
angel opportunity posted:The difference here is that Chinese people are "conditioned" (brainwashed would likely be more accurate) to for some reason treat the issue of Taiwan and its relationship to China as something DEEPLY emotional and important. The same deal with Tibet. hey now let’s not be obtuse to the feelings of recent foreign occupation and civil war it’s like their 9/11 
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 15:57
|
|
|
Cry Havoc posted:hey now let’s not be obtuse to the feelings of recent foreign occupation and civil war it’s like their 9/11 
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 16:19
|
|
|
Charles Kupchan's ''No One's World : The West, the Rising Rest, and the Coming Global Turn'' which i have to read for my exam is pretty good China will rule the world by 2050 stuff that it brought this thread to my mind and i have to recommend it to every wumao reading this thread.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 17:15
|
|
|
Hiekkakauppias posted:Charles Kupchan's ''No One's World : The West, the Rising Rest, and the Coming Global Turn'' which i have to read for my exam is pretty good China will rule the world by 2050 stuff that it brought this thread to my mind and i have to recommend it to every wumao reading this thread. its really great how those books end up dating themselves like a year and a half after they're published
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 18:42
|
|
|
Fojar38 posted:its really great how those books end up dating themselves like a year and a half after they're published It's pretty readable, for a book trying to predict the future, outside of the naivete displayed in the chapter about China and their face-bringing projects that will propel them to the top of the world, undoubtedly.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 20:13
|
|
|
angel opportunity posted:The difference here is that Chinese people are "conditioned" (brainwashed would likely be more accurate) to for some reason treat the issue of Taiwan and its relationship to China as something DEEPLY emotional and important. The same deal with Tibet. It's not really that special. It's like if europeans told you "Puerto Rico isn't America, it's clearly a country." You'd probably feel frustrated and want to explain that it is, in fact, America, it's a special situation etc. Chinese just don't know about Puerto Rico so they use Hawaii or California as examples because those are famous / an island. Americans won't be offended at the idea of a free puerto rico, to be fair, and the situation isn't 1-1 because puerto rico is like a proper colony. But Chinese people believe like, legally that island, the land itself, is part of China and they have to put up with a chinese government-in-exile holding it, nothing of which suggests it's not china.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 21:45
|
|
|
Modest Mao posted:It's not really that special. It's like if europeans told you "Puerto Rico isn't America, it's clearly a country." You'd probably feel frustrated and want to explain that it is, in fact, America, it's a special situation etc. Chinese just don't know about Puerto Rico so they use Hawaii or California as examples because those are famous / an island. James Pearson, now working for Reuters, wrote a good paper on this subject ("FREE CORSICA! A Study of Contemporary Chinese Nationalism").
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 21:53
|
|
|
Cool I will check it out
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 21:58
|
|
|
when the glorious corbyn revolution happens and the old government flees to the isle of wight I will fight anyone who says its a separate country
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 22:05
|
|
|
cool new Metroid game posted:when the glorious corbyn revolution happens and the old government flees to the isle of wight I will fight anyone who says its a separate country Can't wait for the Isle of Man (coolest flag, coolest motto) to become independent.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 22:12
|
|
|
also very inbred
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 22:16
|
|
|
Modest Mao posted:It's not really that special. It's like if europeans told you "Puerto Rico isn't America, it's clearly a country." You'd probably feel frustrated and want to explain that it is, in fact, America, it's a special situation etc. Chinese just don't know about Puerto Rico so they use Hawaii or California as examples because those are famous / an island. I'm struggling to see a parallel between US-Puerto Rico and China-Taiwan here, honestly. Puerto Rico isn't a state, but it's very clearly (and even voluntarily) governed by the US Federal government and it's full people who consider themselves US citizens. It'd be more like an American trying to claim that Cuba is part of the US because, you see <handwaves the last 70 years>, the US effectively controlled it once upon a time... Warbadger fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 14, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 22:44
|
|
|
There are no parallels so you can't really find one, that's sorta the point. It's a bizarre situation. What's important is the irrationally strong emotions are also lumped in with a sorta rational reasoning, that being that the land itself is part of China. So when people say it's a country it feels like they are very ignorant, just as if someone said Puerto Rico was a country. Also CCP propaganda and false history makes it really complicated. Like they teach that the Dutch took the island from China, and the chinese had to retake it from westerners. Both are ridiculously not true, but the've conjured the idea that it's always been China and they've fought to take it back before. They also make it a matter of face, that China has claimed this as their own, so for it to be taken from them has to provoke a response to not lose that face, even if it's just crying and screaming about it. But all of these are rational from a mainlander's perspective, that's what I meant. The CCP has two big interests, Taiwan is militarily strategic for them to take, it takes the islands around Xiamen out of play and gives them a defense against blockade since the island is a huge aircraft carrier sitting in the pacific. Also it prevents there from being any example of Chinese separatism succeeding that might spread to HK, Tibet or Xinjiang... So these attitudes are universal in Mainland, it's like offensive to question it. I think about these issues when I talk to mainlanders about it. The funny thing is mainlanders love Taiwanese actors, films, pop music more than their own. I usually ask them if they really want Xi and the party to ruin all that. That's a perspective that they'll talk about b/c they haven't been conditioned a response to it yet.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 23:40
|
|
|
I parallel it with white nationalism about these countries being white when they are not.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 23:42
|
|
|
Puerto Rico is a country that is part of the United States but the United States barely seems to want it while its citizens clamor for full statehood. It's like the anti-Taiwan.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2018 23:44
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 19:20 |
|
|
Maybe people live in china should focus their anger on the party and bureaucracy and actual social problems. There are actual long term problems like food security, safe tap water to drink, urban planning, and the biggest of all: corrupt politicians and the inept civil service. I’m actually angrier at the concept of society spending boatloads of money on bottled water instead of clean drinking water for all. Don’t get me wrong, I can get plenty angry at multi national companies like Dow chemical and Halliburton loving up the rest of the world with shady practices. Heck I can even get angry at US foreign policy and their historic decisions of bribing foreign governments and turning a blind eye to genocidal dictators to fight the Soviets. But in this thread I’m angry at some parts of China
|
|
#
?
Jan 15, 2018 00:28
|
|