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Grand Fromage posted:I didn't know China had so many issues with the Insane Clown Posse. China very much respect FAM I LY
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mobby_6kl posted:So where are our HK goons at? I know there are at least a couple but they seem to be hiding somewhere. I'm in town until the 3rd. Been away. Lunch or a coffee tomorrow? How best to contact you?
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Simplefish meet me for supper.
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French Canadian posted:Does anyone want me to buy them a drink in HK when I'm there on the 15th of Jan? I am not a highly paid finance man or anything. Just a dumb American passing through and I have a day to kill in HK (but I don't want to spend it all with a goon...just an hour or two). Same goes for you but on the 15th
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Ceciltron posted:Simplefish meet me for supper. When are you coming through town dude?
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I just got back as well. But I have a banquet to attend tomorrow evening
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simplefish posted:When are you coming through town dude? realistically probably not for a few years.
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Does it still take forever to get a background check for Americans? Do I need to get the federal one? They want me to start in March and that's like really soon, you know? I havent jumped through these hoops for years at this point (never needed a new background check to renew my Korean visa.)
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Lol that doesn't sound like a practical visa application timeline.
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Yeah, not in the slightest right?
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If all you have left to do is the background check, it's not that unreasonable. It depends on where you live, unfortunately. I got mine done in Maine at the State level and it took about a week and I got it notarized and authenticated a day after I got it. It was in China about two weeks after I applied for it. My co-worker got his done in Kansas at the State level, same thing. My other co-worker got his done at the State level in California and his application was denied because they said it had to be done at the federal level and he needed an FBI check. This varies consulate to consulate. Not surprisingly, no one has ever accused China of being organized, logical or easy to deal with. The big thing with applying for visas is always the physical, in my opinion. That takes most people forever, because it needs to be notarized as well. You can take your diploma and your background check to the Secretary of State and get them authenticated and notarized in a morning. Now if you live in El Paso and you need to get to Austin, that's far from ideal, but my family is only a few hours from Augusta so I made a day out of it. One good thing now is that you can get your Letter of Invitation in a PDF in your email, so that's one less thing you have a wait a week for in the process. Once you have your Letter of Invitation, you're only about a week away from having an actual Z visa in your passport. If it takes you one week to get the State background check, then a day to authenticate and notarize it, it could be in the mail by the 15th of January. Let's say it arrives January 22nd in China, and that was the very last thing you needed to do. It should take about two weeks to offer you a Letter of Invitation, so let's say you have that by February 5th. You then have another week to get your Z visa, which would be February 12th. Spring Festival might throw a wrench into all of this, don't know how that works with consulates in the States to be honest. tl;dr: it's not unreasonable if that's the last thing you have to do and you need it done at the State level. In fact, even starting now isn't entirely unreasonable if you have your poo poo together, or if someone working with you has their poo poo together. I got someone over in 6 weeks a while back on a Z visa. It is unreasonable if you're working with a group of people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing, which is usually a...er, pretty safe bet for when you're coming to China. Either way, good luck.
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Thanks, at least that makes it sound possible. Except this is what I'm worried about The Great Autismo! posted:My other co-worker got his done at the State level in California and his application was denied because they said it had to be done at the federal level and he needed an FBI check. This varies consulate to consulate. Not surprisingly, no one has ever accused China of being organized, logical or easy to deal with. But oh well, I guess I'll just get both and fall back on the state one if I cant get the FBI one in time (very likely, took me over a month last time). Otherwise, I can't think of what else would take any more time. I have my passport and a copies of my degree, I know where to go to get it apostilled and I've gone through the notarize/apostille thing a couple times. I don't live someplace massive so yeah it was always just a day trip for me. I guess I'll run out and get the background checks Monday and hope for the best.
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I'm in Shanghai in 10 days for work training, and then I'm moving to Suzhou for a year. Does anyone have anything to say about that area (warnings, recommendations, best laowai hangouts), or should I just assume wikitravel is up to date for the area?
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BrainDance posted:Thanks, at least that makes it sound possible. yo I forgot the step where they have to be authenticated by the Chinese consulate also now. That adds a few days but you can expedite it. You can do it at https://www.mychinavisa.com. My bad.
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When I end up booking my flight to China do I gotta get a round trip ticket? I swear I remember some countries not allowing you to move there on a one way ticket but I'm probably just talking out my rear end and have no idea what I'm on about.The Great Autismo! posted:yo I forgot the step where they have to be authenticated by the Chinese consulate also now. That adds a few days but you can expedite it. You can do it at https://www.mychinavisa.com. My bad. Thanks  That's the part where it looks like things get a little different from Korean immigration. If I don't use a service like that, do I have to actually drive down to the consulate? Or is it a thing where I just mail them all my documents together with my passport and wait a bit?So far I've got my degree, my contract signed, some form about not having diseases or getting deported from China signed, a picture and a copy of my passport sent to the university, and I sent out my fingerprints to both the state and the fbi for both background checks (and got a county one as a backup I guess.) Gotta get my old boss to send a letter saying that I worked there and stuff, not sure exactly what that's about or what the requirements are for what I need from him. Emailed him anyway. So, if I'm understanding the process, I just gotta wait now for the letter from my old boss/background check then drive down to the secretary of state for an apostille. Then, get the invitation and stuff from the university and send/take this to the Chinese consulate, wait to see if I get my visa, and that's that right? I'm not missing anything? BrainDance fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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you only need the return ticket if you're getting like a tourist visa and probably not even then??? I assume you're getting a work visa so a 1 way ticket is fine.
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BrainDance posted:When I end up booking my flight to China do I gotta get a round trip ticket? I swear I remember some countries not allowing you to move there on a one way ticket but I'm probably just talking out my rear end and have no idea what I'm on about. One way ticket is fine! I just finished my Z-visa process and I don't have to do a round trip.
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when you arrive, please post your comical misadventures in the other china thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3790448
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BrainDance posted:When I end up booking my flight to China do I gotta get a round trip ticket? I swear I remember some countries not allowing you to move there on a one way ticket but I'm probably just talking out my rear end and have no idea what I'm on about. this differs province to province, I've got a really strong handle on what needs to be done in Liaoning and tianjin, your province may vary, I'd honestly suggest talking to the people you're going to be working with and crossing your fingers that they have their poo poo together and they know exactly what needs to be done. if they don't, make sure you post about it
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ladron posted:when you arrive, please post your comical misadventures in the other china thread: Oh for sure I am hoping this will be a return to form for me just without as much booze. But jesus how many China threads are there?
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Any thread a Chinese person has ever seen has been an inseperable China thread for 5,000 years.
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BrainDance posted:Oh for sure I am hoping this will be a return to form for me just without as much booze. But jesus how many China threads are there? not nearly enough. start with a recap of your korea adventures. I'll make popcorn
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ladron posted:not nearly enough. Nahhhh, that's fine. But I appreciate the interest ladron I really do.
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My coworker is taking a group of students to Beijing in March. Which VPNs are working for people right now?
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Try the one Lowtax is shilling for.
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Nord doesn't work here. Express and vypr are both still functional for me.
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Astrill has been consistently 'fine' for two years. Even when Express and others went down, about half of the Astrill servers still worked.
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Grand Fromage posted:No poo poo right, I would've come over from Korea all the time if I didn't have to pay for a visa. this aged well
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As a place to visit and eat six meals a day, not to live in? I still think China is perfectly fine in that context.
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BrainDance posted:Nahhhh, that's fine. But I appreciate the interest ladron I really do. np, I'm addicted to misery
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a7m2 posted:Astrill has been consistently 'fine' for two years. Even when Express and others went down, about half of the Astrill servers still worked. same
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Thanks, guys!
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Everything in Shenzhen is tiled I realized. Outsides of buildings. Toilet, stairs, ceiling. But the old tiles don't seem to fall off the buildings so good job I guess. And I did a hike from Dongchong to Chenpai along the rocky coast with a fishing boat return trip. Recommended highly.
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They seem to think just my county/city background checks will be fine. That doesn't sound right to me, but they're the only ones I wont be waiting on for the next few weeks so.... maybe? I guess? They showed me someone else's background check as an "example" (sketchy but whatever) who would have had to send it to the same consulate and it was just a city one. Does that make even a little bit of sense? The Great Autismo! posted:if they don't, make sure you post about it Yeah I think they don't, since this dude cant seem to figure out how to open a pdf. BrainDance fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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It's China. There are no rules and nothing makes sense.
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welcome to china. We’ve all been here for years and still can’t figure out how this country puts on its allegorical pants in the morning
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The Great Autismo! posted:welcome to china. We’ve all been here for years and still can’t figure out how this country puts on its allegorical pants in the morning pants are fascism
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Jeoh posted:pants are fascism help help there are literal fascists in the china threads
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BrainDance posted:They seem to think just my county/city background checks will be fine. That doesn't sound right to me, but they're the only ones I wont be waiting on for the next few weeks so.... maybe? I guess? They showed me someone else's background check as an "example" (sketchy but whatever) who would have had to send it to the same consulate and it was just a city one. As someone who just finished the visa process this week, featuring the following adventures: Agent disappeared mid process for weeks, new agent appeared magically to grovel when I contacted the boss. 3 day turnaround at visa agency - lol no paperwork 5 days+ from consulate. Consulate stamps one paper instead of all of them. Rules in China want more stamps? No!! Because we'll lose face if we go back and add a stamp now. Province rules changed midprocess, new documents needed that promise you'll retake the medical tests you already took in your own country. Don't forget stamp for your now unnecessary documents. Especially the polio and black plague check. Province rules changed again a week later, quick, courier new documents. Stamp was off center, find more stamps. And the grand finale: the very tired official visa lady explaining that she couldn't be certain until later if my work permit was good until later.. because Chinese agents had been dumping all their paperwork to the capital's embassy instead of the right cities, because the embassy is the most important place. And they won't read the guide. This is causing a massive backlog of broken/missing permits. I got it 7 days before I'm flying out and I started back in September. All I can say is pray.
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The Great Autismo! posted:help help there are literal fascists in the china threads Yeah we already know you post here. Good thing about China's disorganization is that if your company is legit, they can fix whatever bullshit happens even after you arrive. It took like eight months to get my work visa but it happened in the end since my company, for all its faults, did not screw around with fake work permits or anything like that.
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