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CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Furia posted:

I don't know how to feel about this

Fallout 4 by comparison got around the issue of "wait having the player walk forwards even though they're moving sideways looks stupid" by just making the player animate facing whatever direction the stick/kb button is held. It took them 15 years to come up with this solution.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 14, 2018

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Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

At first I wasn't comprehending, cause you've always been able to move diagonally, and then he started running and I was like :aaaaa:

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Bieeardo posted:

I'm still a little sore at their 'Oh, btw, we're shutting this shebang down' prank at the end of GOG beta. Not sore enough to stop me from buying from them, though.

Jokes are indeed very bad, agreed

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

CJacobs posted:

For thread related content, here is a mod that is awesome (I promise). It adds actual properly working and animated diagonal player movement to Fallout New Vegas, something that hasn't been included in a single gamebryo engine game in over a decade.

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/64333

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1OiJ1Htyjs

In a weird sort of way my brain almost prefers the original movement. The modded movement looks almost right but something about the way the waist pivots is wrong and my brain doesn't care for that at all. On the other hand the original movement is just so clearly wrong and broken my brain just shrugs and goes "Yeah it's a video game." I guess what I'm describing is similar to the uncanny valley but it's not really the same thing.

Maybe it's just stockholm syndrome from years and years of lovely Gamebryo animations though.

Raygereio
Nov 12, 2012

aniviron posted:

The modded movement looks almost right but something about the way the waist pivots is wrong
With the way nothing above the waist changes when the character goes to and from diagonal movement, it looks like a Mechwarrior mech doing the torso twist.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 40 hours!
All running animations should just be copied from Claude "Crazy-Legs" Speed in GTA3.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

CJacobs posted:

Yeah it adds a lot of fuckin weird low quality hentai stencil graffiti everywhere in addition to some actually-offensive stuff.



All of these are varying shades of :nws: for porn and hentai and 'gently caress whores' with penis doodles and stuff

https://imgur.com/mfvib9y
https://imgur.com/S0ZncPS
https://imgur.com/MEEzxYM

Why

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



It's cinematic.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


"Cinematic" and "lore-friendly" don't mean anything anymore

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

sebmojo posted:

Jokes are indeed very bad, agreed

Being the joke in this situation, I wholeheartedly agree. I think there's terrier in my ancestry, probably the one that beat great-grandad to the fence.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

I remember diagonal movement being a big topic of discussion in the New Vegas boards before the game was released.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
The poo poo people have done in New Vegas is insane, really. This is old but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J13lLFE6sPs&t=159s

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


The Cheshire Cat posted:

The poo poo people have done in New Vegas is insane, really. This is old but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J13lLFE6sPs&t=159s

Huh, the Boomers' flight simulator isn't as good as they claimed.

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT


Nexus, terrywads and "I'm not gonna even look up duke 3d wad names to find out the hard way" in summary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhEs9KUQ4qo

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Another great thing about the FAKEFACTORY CINEMATIC BRIDGES AND TITTIES OVERHAUL is that a lot of the extremely huge textures are extremely huge because he simply tiled the same texture, wasting four times the VRAM for literally no reason whatsoever.

Orv
May 4, 2011

The Kins posted:

If you guys want sequels to mediocre FPSes so much, don't Activision have you covered on an annual basis? :confused:

One day people will be free to admit that HL2 is a poo poo shooter with good tech and people won't act like it's blasphemy.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
That being said, it's totally okay to enjoy bad games. I like Shogo, for instance, and many people like Blood for some reason.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Orv posted:

One day people will be free to admit that HL2 is a poo poo shooter with good tech and people won't act like it's blasphemy.
It's not bad, and it spawned all sorts of dumb bullshit that I love to death like Garry's Mod and SFM and such, but I mean, it's not like you can even rocket-jump in it.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Orv posted:

One day people will be free to admit that HL2 is a poo poo shooter with good tech and people won't act like it's blasphemy.

Hasn't this been the general opinion since Valve fell out of fashion as a game development company?

edit: There also have been complaints about HL2's wimpy-rear end weapons since the day it came out. I recall the pistol specifically got a lot of flak because it sounds real weak and is immediately useless once you get the smg.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Jan 15, 2018

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Half-Life 1 was better.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

kirbysuperstar posted:

That being said, it's totally okay to enjoy bad games. I like Shogo, for instance, and many people like Blood for some reason.

Gawd. I bought Shogo back in the day. It was SO anime!

(Red Riot FTW!)

Orv
May 4, 2011

CJacobs posted:

Hasn't this been the general opinion since Valve fell out of fashion as a game development company?

I dunno, people are still somehow mad that HL3 isn't happening.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

CJacobs posted:

Hasn't this been the general opinion since Valve fell out of fashion as a game development company?

edit: There also have been complaints about HL2's wimpy-rear end weapons since the day it came out. I recall the pistol specifically got a lot of flak because it sounds real weak and is immediately useless once you get the smg.

The pistol I definitely remember hearing complaints about, but everything else was par for the course for 2004. Gun noises sucked and didn't get good until you hit like the '10s.

Orv
May 4, 2011

ishikabibble posted:

The pistol I definitely remember hearing complaints about, but everything else was par for the course for 2004. Gun noises sucked and didn't get good until you hit like the '10s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXXWrtWJX0c

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Orv posted:

One day people will be free to admit that HL2 is a poo poo shooter with good tech and people won't act like it's blasphemy.

HL2 is a bad fps now, but in it's time it was excellent.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



My hot take is that HL2 wasn't even a good shooter in its time - the evidence is quite plainly there in the sheer amount of non-shooting that it consists of.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

The Lone Badger posted:

HL2 is a bad fps now, but in it's time it was excellent.

yeah in its day the endless boat sequence was pure art, only time has dulled its brilliance

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Yeah in total HL2 is like 1/3 driving and boating which felt a bit like filler.

For content (please god post more content) here is an oldie but a goodie that's relevant to the current discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwxN8sCIOOE

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

SplitSoul posted:

Another great thing about the FAKEFACTORY CINEMATIC BRIDGES AND TITTIES OVERHAUL is that a lot of the extremely huge textures are extremely huge because he simply tiled the same texture, wasting four times the VRAM for literally no reason whatsoever.

FAKEFACTORY sounds appropriately porn-y.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Orv posted:

I dunno, people are still somehow mad that HL3 isn't happening.

All I ever wanted was closure. It was a decent enough story that I wanted to know how it ended.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Ghostlight posted:

My hot take is that HL2 wasn't even a good shooter in its time - the evidence is quite plainly there in the sheer amount of non-shooting that it consists of.

Also the guns were mostly terrible except for a couple of cool alt fires.


CJacobs posted:

(please god post more content)


You should know better by now dude.



And now your weekly misunderstanding of just about everything body related

:nws: https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/110/images/88954/88954-1515907659-1332271336.jpeg

Orv fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Jan 15, 2018

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
Nice to see Susan Crushbone again after all this time.

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer
My ideal women are indignant to something slightly to the right, possibly myself but definitely one of the outfits I want them to wear

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
Half Life 2 was ahead of it's time and it would've been better if they did actually pull off the 2003 release date. They weren't able to anyway, but the german hacker leaking the alpha didn't do them any favors, and that's how Far Cry got a huge amount of attention by releasing first.

My only problem with Half Life 2 is the "human" AI. Fighting the marines in HL1 was fun and they actually take cover, some run away if they take too much damage or need to reload and throw grenades to try and flush you out. It seems the only thing the Overwatch do are run straight at you and throw grenades, and the CPs do the same thing Overwatch do minus throw grenades. Would've been interesting to have them throw man hacks to flush you out as part of the AI and not just a trigger.

Don't know what you guys are talking about, the guns are awesome. well except the Shotgun. Wished they kept the one from the E3 demonstration.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
After some Skyrim talk, i decided to actually download the special edition instead of the original for once to see how that's like. I hear the special edition screwed up a lot of mods, but i'm mainly interested in SkyUI and anything that skips that goddamn intro

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
Freeman's deification was trash-garbage.

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer
I played HL2. Couldn't bring myself to pay attention during the cutscenes, which was made worse by the fact that I could move around like an rear end in a top hat

Apparently the g man shows up periodically through the game but I never did see him. Felt like there was a lot of lore I wasn't aware of

Counter strike good though

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WqAmuSXEQ

Granted it was vastly, vastly improved with the update that brought it to the Orange Box version of the engine but still pretty lol

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

CJacobs posted:

Yeah in total HL2 is like 1/3 driving and boating which felt a bit like filler.

For content (please god post more content) here is an oldie but a goodie that's relevant to the current discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwxN8sCIOOE

This is the version of this idea that I knew and always liked better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBJDnotbKa0
BZZZZAT

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Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
To make a weird comparison, I look at Another World/Out of This World the same way people look at Half-Life 2; it's a game that I don't particularly care for or understand the hype for, but it was remarkable for the time and resonates better with the people who grew up with it.

Alternatively, the reason why Half-Life 2 is viewed so poorly in retrospect is because so many other shooters that followed tried to mimic or replicate the things that Half-Life 2 did, so looking at HL2 in the wake of others games, it doesn't really seem to do anything really special.

I'm not trying to sound like, :goonsay:"Um, no! HL2 iz the bestest game ever made! How else did it win 2500 GOTY awards?" I just mean to say that HL2 isn't necessarily bad or overrated. Sections like the boat and jeep stretch on for way too long, and the some of the weapons feel pretty weak. However, I think it's still worth playing.

All that being said...

Kavak posted:

Half-Life 1 was better.

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