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Yawgmoth posted:Both my parents worked and I didn't even have the ability to start trying to cook on my own until I was 20. Ironically I think it's the attitude of this thread that causes it, really; this "how do you not just know this stuff?" as if the knowledge just gets deposited in your head at a certain age alongside a set of pots & pans. Unfortunately, people don't have genetic knowledge and no one stops by with a free set of pots & pans and a jug of detergent. Washing machines have instructions on them, but (a) cookware is expensive especially as a college student, and (b) so are ingredients, which (c) if you gently caress it up you're just gonna be real loving hungry until you succeed or give up. Since a lot of people get zero guidance on how to function fully as an adult, it's no surprise that a lot of people don't function fully as adults. Hmm, interesting, but as an insecure man on the internet Im going to have to say that if you cant cook youre a moron who needs to be put onto a train and shipped off to Siberia for being such a moron. Unlike me, who is very smart because I know how to make paella. Sometimes its so tuff being such a genius.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:20 |
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# ? Jun 13, 2024 07:28 |
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the bar for humble bragging has been lowered to include basic life skills
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:26 |
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Me, age 15: mom stop cleaning my room and doing my laundry, it's weird My mom: yes ok I agree *twelve hours pass* My mom: I broke the lock on your bedroom door so I could clean your room and do your laundry Me, age 18: how much laundry soap do I put in the washing machine? Like a whole bottle? Sounds reasonable
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:39 |
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Meme Emulator posted:Hmm, interesting, but as an insecure man on the internet Im going to have to say that if you cant cook youre a moron who needs to be put onto a train and shipped off to Siberia for being such a moron. Unlike me, who is very smart because I know how to make paella. Sometimes its so tuff being such a genius. Boiling pasta isn't cooking. You moron. You utter failure. I'm calling your parents.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:43 |
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It's not hard to cook. It's incredibly easy If no one guided you, then watch a 2 minute youtube video on how to "put food in a pan until it is cooked" Jesus
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tO9dA2syYM Thought the thread might appreciate this.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:46 |
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Yawgmoth posted:Both my parents worked and I didn't even have the ability to start trying to cook on my own until I was 20. Ironically I think it's the attitude of this thread that causes it, really; this "how do you not just know this stuff?" as if the knowledge just gets deposited in your head at a certain age alongside a set of pots & pans. Unfortunately, people don't have genetic knowledge and no one stops by with a free set of pots & pans and a jug of detergent. Washing machines have instructions on them, but (a) cookware is expensive especially as a college student, and (b) so are ingredients, which (c) if you gently caress it up you're just gonna be real loving hungry until you succeed or give up. Since a lot of people get zero guidance on how to function fully as an adult, it's no surprise that a lot of people don't function fully as adults. idk it took like a week of university for me to get bored of lovely pre-made meals that go in a microwave for 3 mins before I Googled some recipes of stuff I wanted to eat. Short of catastrophically loving up, even if you make a mess of your first few attempts it will still be edible and probably less bad for you than processed garbage from the freezer aisle.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:48 |
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I had most of my cooking done for me until my late teens. Laundry until 23 or so (I lived with my grandmother until college ended). But I figured stuff out when I had to do it myself by, you know, READING labels and recipes. 99% of the time, between the washer and the detergent bottle, you can figure out how to wash clothes. 5 ingredient recipes are easy to follow. The bottle of spaghetti sauce tells you how to heat it. Yeah, it slows you down a bit at first, but you're not competing in speed laundry.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:53 |
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Theres a level of anxiety to the average teen that wasnt there like 20 years ago. A LOT of people are terrified to attempt to try anything unless theyve been trained by a licensed expert or else they think they could blow up the house.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 15:53 |
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I just remembered watching some documentary on an aristocrat that got put in jail because it turns out that the company he took over after his father was doing seriously illegal poo poo that he wasn't aware of (because he was an idiot) and he just kept signing tons of documents that were put on his desk without asking any questions until police knocked on the company door. He was describing how he was first struggling with preparing tea in jail using *gasp* an electric water boiler and tea bags because throughout his entire life servants prepared literally everything for him, he hasn't even dressed himself ever. He was like 50 years old when he was put in jail, it was hilarious.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 16:03 |
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It doesn't seem there's a lot of middle ground between people who were never taught how to operate a stove and washing machine, and people who were set to doing their own dishes and laundry as soon as they were tall enough to reach them.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 16:14 |
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Palpek posted:I just remembered watching some documentary on an aristocrat that got put in jail because it turns out that the company he took over after his father was doing seriously illegal poo poo that he wasn't aware of (because he was an idiot) and he just kept signing tons of documents that were put on his desk without asking any questions until police knocked on the company door. He was describing how he was first struggling with preparing tea in jail using *gasp* an electric water boiler and tea bags because throughout his entire life servants prepared literally everything for him, he hasn't even dressed himself ever. He was like 50 years old when he was put in jail, it was hilarious. Do you remember what this documentary was called? It sounds hilarious
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 16:16 |
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quote:So, in short, I was doing a project on blood types for school earlier today. It required me to get the blood types of my family members. I hope that was something he chose for himself because that would be a hilariously irresponsible thing for a teacher to assign.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:03 |
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I don't know if this has been posted before but this thread is really long and it's insane so here goes My husband's dirty secret turned out to be much dirtier than I could ever imagine... quote:u/throwaway963123 (UPDATE) My husband's dirty secret... quote:u/throwaway963123
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:11 |
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Fartbox posted:It's not hard to cook. It's incredibly easy YouTube didn't exist yet when I was 21, to be fair.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:12 |
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jesus christ
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:13 |
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There's a big difference between knowing how to feed yourself and knowing how to actually cook. I'm 31 and I've been able to feed myself (cook pasta, grill chicken) for many years, but only in the last 5 years or so have I started to actually learn how to cook.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:18 |
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girl pants posted:I don't know if this has been posted before but this thread is really long and it's insane so here goes Yeah uh... I don't think we've had this one before.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:19 |
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Theophany posted:idk it took like a week of university for me to get bored of lovely pre-made meals that go in a microwave for 3 mins before I Googled some recipes of stuff I wanted to eat. Short of catastrophically loving up, even if you make a mess of your first few attempts it will still be edible and probably less bad for you than processed garbage from the freezer aisle.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:27 |
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I basically never cooked until the age of 18 when I went to uni, and never did laundry until I went on erasmus at the age of 21. Thankfully for the former I just googled recipes of poo poo that sounded interesting to make and for the latter there was a laundry machine place in my street with a friendly old French owner who talked me through the process the first time, but honestly it's not shocking that throughout high school, especially in European countries, you don't touch the stove unless absolutely necessary. Many also don't have part-time jobs until uni, and even then that's the exception rather than the norm. It's just that we've conditioned people to seek careful instructions to such a degree that the idea of diving right in and experimenting is terrifying to a lot of people.
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girl pants posted:I don't know if this has been posted before but this thread is really long and it's insane so here goes No no no no no
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:43 |
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It's not totally baseless paranoia, it can be reasonable depending on circumstances. My mom wouldn't let us kids do our own laundry because if we hosed up and broke something, or flooded the place or whatever, she wouldn't have the money to fix it and it would be a huge deal.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:45 |
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girl pants posted:I don't know if this has been posted before but this thread is really long and it's insane so here goes Noooooooooooooo
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:47 |
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girl pants posted:I don't know if this has been posted before but this thread is really long and it's insane so here goes This is a story where divorce isnt enough. tactlessbastard posted:I hope that was something he chose for himself because that would be a hilariously irresponsible thing for a teacher to assign. We had to do it in school, didnt even need a slip for the fact we were cutting ourselves to get blood like it was babys first occult ritual.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:47 |
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girl pants posted:I don't know if this has been posted before but this thread is really long and it's insane so here goes "It made me so mad to see he was so prepared to lie to my face and pretend everything was fine when I had been concerned and upset for weeks, that I exploded." that dude is hosed, but this doesn't make any sense, no poo poo he is going to lie about it
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:52 |
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girl pants posted:I don't know if this has been posted before but this thread is really long and it's insane so here goes
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 17:54 |
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Yawgmoth posted:I have startling new information for you regarding this, apparently! It's really easy to gently caress up food. Even "really simple" stuff. No, no it is not. I hate this loving myth. It is actively hard to gently caress up boiling an egg. Or making pasta. Or even something 'complicated' like a stir fry (Meat and vegetables in a pan with some oil for a few minutes) or baking bread (literally just flour and water in the oven for a while will get you something that can be called bread.). The myth that cooking takes some kind of expert talent is honestly probably the main contribution to people refusing to cook, and I hate it. It doesn't even take very long if you make something simple; you can make a decent meal in like 15-30 minutes tops, and it doesn't matter what your life is like, you have 15-30 minutes. And I have never met or heard of a single person who didn't have a pan/pot/some sort of metal vessel that can be used for cooking. Everyone has one, even if it's just a lovely one your parents gave you 15 years ago to get it out of their house. And ingredient costs are literally less than you pay for shittier food.
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Meme Emulator posted:Theres a level of anxiety to the average teen that wasnt there like 20 years ago. A LOT of people are terrified to attempt to try anything unless theyve been trained by a licensed expert or else they think they could blow up the house. loving rampant helplessness these days
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:04 |
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AnoHito posted:And I have never met or heard of a single person who didn't have a pan/pot/some sort of metal vessel that can be used for cooking. Everyone has one, even if it's just a lovely one your parents gave you 15 years ago to get it out of their house. And ingredient costs are literally less than you pay for shittier food. Cooking for one is a lot more work and marginally cheaper than just getting takeout, cooking is one of those things that economies of scale really factor it. When I was single I never cooked, I cook at least 4 nights a week when it feeds two people plus lunch the next day and I have help cleaning everything up.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:09 |
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AnoHito posted:And I have never met or heard of a single person who didn't have a pan/pot/some sort of metal vessel that can be used for cooking. Everyone has one, even if it's just a lovely one your parents gave you 15 years ago to get it out of their house. And ingredient costs are literally less than you pay for shittier food. Everyone who has ever cooked has one. You underestimate the kind of abnormal situations people can come out of. I grew up in a household that didn't cook and it was a big learning curve on the basic poo poo ("you fill the sink to wash dishes," "butter knives aren't for food prep," "fat helps food brown," etc.) as well as figuring out the kind of home cooked meals people make. Cooking is easy but when you grow up knowing nothing about how people cook & eat it's easy to mistake home gourmet recipes for the baseline and get the impression that cooking's a waste of time and money.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:24 |
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Barudak posted:We had to do it in school, didnt even need a slip for the fact we were cutting ourselves to get blood like it was babys first occult ritual.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:24 |
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Knew a guy who was on the spectrum and he cooked a chicken breast and potatoes in a frying pan for lunch every day for two years between 17-19. He even upgrading to putting some mixed herbs on the potatoes at some point. I wasn't trying to shame people who can't whip up a souffle by the age of 13, but just baffled at people who claim to be unable to prepare even the most basic kinds of food by 20-21. Just knowing there are people out there who can code in five different languages but can't open a can of beans just makes me lol
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:26 |
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I love cooking and I have fun doing it. my husband is fine at doing most of the chores (we usually do a lot of them together though) but he can't really cook at all. it's sad. I'm not a very good teacher unfortunately lmao also you don't need a giant pot for pasta, depending on what you're making. most pasta can be cooked with just an inch or so of water covering it. I usually break spaghetti/long noodles in half so I can use a smaller pot. it also gives you the bonus of concentrated starchy water if you need it for your sauce! I think I take my knife skills and like general cooking skills (knowing how to stir food, manage the stove heat, etc.) for granted bc most people I know just... don't cook, or can't.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:30 |
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Anxiety can genuinely play into a lot of stuff, like an actual anxiety disorder can freak you out so much about starting something you settle on 'doing it gradually' and end up putting it off. But as someone with potentially pretty severe anxiety myself, I've figured out the best way to deal with that is to just force yourself to do something and see what happens. If you gently caress up it feels bad, but then you know what to avoid doing next time. Even with stuff like driving, like, that's why there's driving instructors in the first place. Putting things off because you're anxious just gives you more time to feel anxious, and gently caress that. I do think it's pretty important to give kids basic household tasks for chores, though, just so they can get used to doing it and doing it on their own. Even keep rotating that stuff so you start them off on laundry and then when they've got that down maybe shift to something else. It's really bad parenting to not let your child do anything on their own and I actually have a few friends whose parents did that explicitly so they couldn't be independent and get the hell out of there as soon as they turned 18, which they did anyway because gently caress that noise. It's hilarious that this lady hosed up her own situation by being lovely and condescending to her mother, though. She should just start trying to do stuff on her own because her mom is not going to have any sympathy if she folds right away, whereas if she's putting in the effort she's more likely to get some leeway.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:35 |
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I had to be taught how to make ramen and do laundry when I was 18. I didn't know how to do a lot of things because my mom just did everything for me. I grew up in a hoarder house, so I didn't know how to clean things properly or how frequently. I still have problems with that, but my house isn't a sty (well, it is a little bit right now because I've been sick). It's nowhere near the kind of mess I grew up in and I will never let it get that far.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:48 |
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The Snoo posted:also you don't need a giant pot for pasta, depending on what you're making. most pasta can be cooked with just an inch or so of water covering it. I usually break spaghetti/long noodles in half so I can use a smaller pot. it also gives you the bonus of concentrated starchy water if you need it for your sauce! Starchy pasta water is magic and I didn't learn that until relatively recently. I recently taught my mom that you can cook pasta in a very small amount of water and she was really skeptical, and then pleasantly surprised when it worked. The Snoo posted:I think I take my knife skills and like general cooking skills (knowing how to stir food, manage the stove heat, etc.) for granted bc most people I know just... don't cook, or can't. A lot of baby boomer parents never taught their kids how to cook because they relied so heavily on frozen or canned foods (like my parents did). Luckily I grew up watching the Food Network back when they showed actual cooking shows and ended up really interested in cooking from an early age. I'm never surprised when people my age don't know how to cook for themselves but that's something I think we really need to teach everyone in school or some poo poo like that. Every adult should have the basic skills necessary to take raw ingredients and use them to feed themselves.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:53 |
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Do most high schools not have a required Home Ec class? Mine did and that's where I learned to cook. EDIT: Also learned basic sewing and washing dishes by hand and stuff.
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:57 |
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im so fuckin glad i grew up in a family where cooking was a family activity and everyone did it and enjoyed cooking and teaching recipes to each other, for real
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# ? Jan 15, 2018 18:58 |
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PetraCore posted:Do most high schools not have a required Home Ec class? Mine did and that's where I learned to cook. At my school the boys could choose shop class and the girls home ec. For some reason loving around with a lathe didn't really teach a lot of important life skills, not even lathe safety.
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PetraCore posted:Do most high schools not have a required Home Ec class? Mine did and that's where I learned to cook. I went to two different high schools and neither of them even had home ec.
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