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Oh Snapple! posted:Y'know, most decent people disengage when they realize they're in sync with Dead Reckoning on an issue. I agree the TFR weirdos who somehow still infest D&D should look at their agreement with DR and feel ashamed.
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Calibanibal posted:That the universally loathed dead reckoning detests Chelsea manning is the strongest argument for her Senate run ive seen itt or elsewhere
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Chomskyan posted:It's not that I'm not willing to change my mind, it's that I know that critics of Manning such as yourself have never shown any convincing evidence of the leaks damaging US national security. they made some americans less supportive of the security state and thus damaged it by potentially threatening its unopposed support for future operations killing foreigners
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Hot take: If exposing shady business puts the troops in danger or damages relations with other countries then maybe the US shouldn’t engage in shady business because if it gets exposed it can put the troops in danger or damage relations with other countries.
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You would think DR would love Manning for pyttibg out an Iraqi snuff film, but maybe gunship weapons aren't personal enough for them.
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Calibanibal posted:That the universally loathed dead reckoning detests Chelsea manning is the strongest argument for her Senate run ive seen itt or elsewhere Unfortunately for the Manning campaign people like DR make up a substantial portion of democratic primary voters.
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Mr Hootington posted:Dead Reckoning is a literal facist and racist. Why do people think "debating" them will go anywhere? Lightning Knight posted:
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Dead Reckoning posted:If you're going to throw out a ridiculous ad hom, at least quote the posts where I endorse a centralized autocratic government headed by a charismatic leader with dictatorial powers, economic regimentation, and forcible suppression of all dissent. Or a post where I espouse the superiority of one race over another. You LOVE the police and get worried about guns whenever an African American is murdered.
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Dead Reckoning posted:The State Department doesn't have aircraft carriers. If I said we should have less aircraft carriers, would I be labeled as a bad leftist who wants to destroy America, optionally because I'm a Russian stooge?
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dead reckoning, what's your take on Seymour Hersh exposing the My Lai massacre? I mean, the all-important ~*military*~ said that exposing what happened there hurt ~*national security*~.
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JeffersonClay posted:Unfortunately for the Manning campaign people like DR make up a substantial portion of democratic primary voters. 3/10. Come on I know you can troll better than this JC.
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I just got ratfucked by jefferosnclay and I'm pissed
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Lightning Knight posted:If I said we should have less aircraft carriers, would I be labeled as a bad leftist who wants to destroy America, optionally because I'm a Russian stooge? I wonder why people think the United States needs less aircraft carriers? 
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Calibanibal posted:I just got ratfucked by jefferosnclay and I'm pissed You got rodent couplated, bro!
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readingatwork posted:3/10. Come on I know you can troll better than this JC. If on-topic posts with claims backed by linked, easily accessible research are trolling then I'd say we need more of it around here.
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white sauce posted:who gives a gently caress about any of this poo poo this Dead Reckoning posted:Funny how the people who are most in favor of Manning being elected are also the people who are in favor of weakening the United States. lol im very much in favor of this
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Instant Sunrise posted:I wonder why people think the United States needs less aircraft carriers? Granted, I think that image is fairly outdated, but the message is still more or less right. I don't see any Chinese carriers and the UK is pretty much down to those 2 Elizabeth Class carriers. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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Do any of you actually think Manning could win a general election, or even the democratic primary, on a "weaken the US security apparatus" platform? I do not.
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readingatwork posted:3/10. Come on I know you can troll better than this JC. I mean in fairness, I don't actually expect Manning to win the primary. Lotta lovely people out there really hate her still. Instant Sunrise posted:the united states navy's army's navy has more aircraft carriers than any other country in the world. Last I checked, we had as much as the rest of the world combined. ^ that is stupid, she's not going to run on that lmao.
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Instant Sunrise posted:the united states navy's army's navy
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Lightning Knight posted:Last I checked, we had as much as the rest of the world combined. Right. I was just specifically referring to the marine corps’ fleet of ships specifically as a reference for how overbuilt we are.
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oh my god I didn't even notice that when I quoted it lmao instant sunrise you're the best poster.
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Lightning Knight posted:^ that is stupid, she's not going to run on that lmao. She'd be a fool to try. A position like that sure seems like a liability. Therefore, that Manning is so easily associated with weakening the US security apparatus, due solely to her history, also seems like a liability. The negative ads write themselves.
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JeffersonClay posted:Do any of you actually think Manning could win a general election, or even the democratic primary, on a "weaken the US security apparatus" platform? I do not. even if she cant im still going to vote for her (im registered where she's running because i live there) because im not gonna vote for some milquetoast liberal like cardin haha manning is like the first person with values even remotely close to mine ive gotten the chance to vote for Kanine fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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JeffersonClay posted:She'd be a fool to try. A position like that sure seems like a liability. Therefore, that Manning is so easily associated with weakening the US security apparatus, due solely to her history, also seems like a liability. The negative ads write themselves. Ok, so, let me be clear: I agree with you in that I don't think she's going to win the primary, because she's going to be attacked for what she did and most people don't know enough about it to realize what she did was cool and good. I don't agree that this is a good thing, because what she did is cool and good and she's probably going to run on a decent progressive platform based on her public statements, and Cardin should instead debate her on the issues if she's willing to debate on the issues.
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Kanine posted:even if she cant im still going to vote for her (im registered where she's running because i live there) because im not gonna vote for some milquetoast liberal like cardin haha
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JeffersonClay posted:Oh cool so this is another vanity campaign that can only sap enthusiasm for the democrat in the general election. Sounds like a good plan for taking back the senate in 2018. Cardin's seat is listed as safe D, there's no way he loses as a two-term incumbent if he wins the primary.
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JeffersonClay posted:Oh cool so this is another vanity campaign that can only sap enthusiasm for the democrat in the general election. Sounds like a good plan for taking back the senate in 2018. Hahaha g*ddamn I love Chelsea manning. Every time she makes the news it's like chum in the water
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Instant Sunrise posted:I was just specifically referring to the marine corps’ fleet of ships specifically as a reference for how overbuilt we are. I think a lot of it is an ongoing legacy of the Pacific island-hopping campaign. There is an argument for fleet carriers, but another whole fleet of carriers to support amphibious operations is even more ridiculous. Also when we would use them for their intended purpose? That also goes for the F-35b, who knows why it exists. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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JeffersonClay posted:Oh cool so this is another vanity campaign that can only sap enthusiasm for the democrat in the general election. Sounds like a good plan for taking back the senate in 2018. if the democrats refuse to actually move left and stop sharing half their neoliberal policies with the gop than yeah they deserve to lose in 2018 lol
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Lightning Knight posted:Cardin's seat is listed as safe D, there's no way he loses as a two-term incumbent if he wins the primary. Here's hoping you're right. Cerebral Bore posted:Why is JC acting as if he's got the slightest idea about who's electable and who's not? I've been pretty good at predicting which leftist candidates will lose their primary campaigns against establishment democrats (all of them).
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why is JC acting as if he's got the slightest idea about who's electable and who's not? Bahaha hahahahahah
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JeffersonClay posted:Oh cool so this is another vanity campaign that can only sap enthusiasm for the democrat in the general election. Sounds like a good plan for taking back the senate in 2018. The Democratic Party: "Sweep that poo poo back under the rug, it keeps coming out."
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JeffersonClay posted:Here's hoping you're right. 2018 is going to be a blue wave, most likely. Anybody with a D next to their name in a blue state is going to mop the loving floor with their R opponent. It's places like Wisconsin and people like Baldwin we need to worry about. Primary challenges to safe D seats are good, especially in blue wave years.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why is JC acting as if he's got the slightest idea about who's electable and who's not? 
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