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GunnerJ posted:Never going to get used to people throwing around hundred-year-old Russian political faction names as insults. That sounds like narodnik talk to me, boy
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GalacticAcid posted:The idea that there is nothing to learn from the Soviet project is laughably stupid. the idea that anyone who recognizes that there’s something to learn is actually learning has yet to be shown
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Rose Emoji Mike: books? heh.
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that jacobin thing is ridiculous because regardless of how you personally feel about it as a publication, its the largest and most widely circulated socialist publication in the US so even if you disagree with parts of it you should engage with it and its ideas constructively to reach more people. calling it a menshevik rag is completely alienating to 99% of people and prolly 1/2 of the people even reading jacobin
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Sometimes, Jacobin publishes something good Sometimes, Jacobin publishes something bad
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it owns that everyone is mad about what was clearly a gentle barb couched in winking irony
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the jacobin? that's a revisionist kautskyite tabloid for morons. but, i do have a newspaper on me you could check out 
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GalacticAcid posted:it owns that everyone is mad about what was clearly a gentle barb couched in winking irony but i was doing gentle barbs couched in winking irony!!!!!!
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Jan 16, 2018 19:14
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thats actually prolly the biggest annoyance I see on the left and thats kind of a small example of it: a lot of groups and individuals are more interested in turning or converting members of other parties to their party rather than going out and making people who arent socialists into socialists. like its definitely important to have debate and discussion with other socialists to help broaden understanding and settle tactical or ideological conflicts. but I have zero interest in trying to convince someone to abandon their party or line or whatever for mine and a lot more in trying to find someone whos not engaged at all and engage them
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Jan 16, 2018 19:17
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Enjoy posted:To make it easier for you to understand, America had more manpower and IC left after the peace deal fired
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Jan 16, 2018 19:19
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Wheeee posted:Also you can tell how seriously to take an ostensible Marxist by how much they talk about dead and buried Russian bullshit because the Bolsheviks were wrong, they hosed it up, and they have nothing to teach us at this point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx_Zo93RQoo&t=46s
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gradenko_2000 posted:No duh? America never had to fight on her own soil, so it's kind of obvious that they'd have a lot more industry and manpower left-over, but to credit them with "won the bloodiest existential war of all time" is a huge stretch considering that not only did they come in at the tail-end of the conflict to clean-up after the Soviets had already done the brunt of the fighting, it wasn't even existential for them in the least. Your argument is that USA didn’t win world war 2 because they didn’t lose as much as the soviets? Hmm,
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Sure, the US achived a 70 year ongoing global hegamon, but they did it without losing life or property, so you’ll find that the winner of world war 2 was actually Communism,
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Karl Barks posted:(at this month's communist party canada meeting)
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GalacticAcid posted:a gentle barb couched in winking irony please dont doxx my dating profile
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Something needs to be done about Canada. the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist) is better and less tankie than the Communist Party of Canada (Communist) why Canada needs two nearly identical communist parties I’ll never know. I think they split over some retarded schism in the 70’s
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A Typical Goon posted:the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist) is better and less tankie than the Communist Party of Canada (Communist) usually the splinter that calls itself Marxist-Leninist is the better one, like the CPI (M) in India. typically the big splinters were either over the Sino-Soviet split, or whether or not Perestroika was good. so parties had to distinguish themselves as being M-L (pro-Soviet) or Maoist. third world Maoists can be good, but First World Maoism is worthless.
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Work Friend Keven posted:Your argument is that USA didn’t win world war 2 because they didn’t lose as much as the soviets? Hmm, My argument is that Nazi Germany wasn't some DOTA 2 creep, and the US shouldn't get credit for last-hitting them.
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Jan 17, 2018 05:29
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gradenko_2000 posted:My argument is that Nazi Germany wasn't some DOTA 2 creep, and the US shouldn't get credit for last-hitting them. at least the soviets denied east germany
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Jan 17, 2018 05:37
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A Typical Goon posted:the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist) is better and less tankie than the Communist Party of Canada (Communist) as far as I can tell from two minutes on wikipedia, CPC was a traditional Comintern party, and CPC (ML) developed from student activism in the 60s
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Jan 17, 2018 05:39
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gradenko_2000 posted:My argument is that Nazi Germany wasn't some DOTA 2 creep, and the US shouldn't get credit for last-hitting them. "gg noobs italy didn't buy any FUCVKIGN WARDSS"--A. Htiler 1944
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Peanut President posted:"gg noobs italy didn't buy any FUCVKIGN WARDSS"--A. Htiler 1944 italy was definitely sixth position and chose to spend their time in bottom lane getting killed lmao
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Perestroika was good. Who believes this
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Dreddout posted:Who believes this polish socialists
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Dreddout posted:Who believes this The old communist party of Syria split over Perestroika, and they're both still separate parties decades after Perestroika failed, so there's probably some more personal clique politics going on there.
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Jan 17, 2018 06:13
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I kinda feel like American ML parties are trying to do a cargo cult imitation of Lenin but it’s not a super developed theory
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PSL has the correct take on Lenin, where they acknowledge him as dialectically instrumental, but that the dialectic has also moved on in the last 100 years.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:PSL has the correct take on Lenin, where they acknowledge him as dialectically instrumental, but that the dialectic has also moved on in the last 100 years. first-world factory workers and indentured rural labor will always be my base of revolution
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there's a lot to learn from lenin but trying to paint by numbers a revolution based solely on his work is very dumb and entirely against the principles of marxism. luckily none of the parties or orgs worth talking about are doing, that.
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idk I don’t see PSL or WWP being mentioned outside the context of elections. correct me if I’m wrong
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https://twitter.com/RedKahina/status/953445415986266112 https://twitter.com/RedKahina/status/953471662627938304 uhhhh why is this extremely online person denying that the Bosnian genocide happened? Is it because it makes Communist Yugoslavia look bad?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:idk I don’t see PSL or WWP being mentioned outside the context of elections. correct me if I’m wrong "being mentioned" where and by whom?
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GunnerJ posted:"being mentioned" where and by whom? from PSL and WWP people themselves
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gradenko_2000 posted:uhhhh why is this extremely online person denying that the Bosnian genocide happened? Is it because it makes Communist Yugoslavia look bad? because she's an arch-tankie and phil greave's beloved wife who hates his guts which is why he is angry about sex and demands nobody honk off
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:from PSL and WWP people themselves but you hear about their affinity groups like ANSWER or the Peoples Congress of Resistance or Stop Police Terror
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wwp got some serious media attention after the protests in durham. they're way more active than you'd think, and not just through the orgs zimbardo mentioned.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:but you hear about their affinity groups like ANSWER or the Peoples Congress of Resistance or Stop Police Terror sure, but that’s the thing though. The affinity groups are separate organization from the electoral parties, as opposed to organizing under a single banter. WWP doesn’t seem to add anything to ANSWER.
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R. Guyovich posted:wwp got some serious media attention after the protests in durham. they're way more active than you'd think, and not just through the orgs zimbardo mentioned. yeah I do remember that at least
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