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Lord_Hambrose posted:I absolutely think Mathhammer has its place, but that place is just totally alien to how I approach the hobby. In terms of a tournament bringing the hottest poo poo you can to pulverize your opponents to grab that podium makes some sense, but I can't handle people who can't switch it off. There are a group of guys locally who always bring the most broken net list they can, and it is easier to just go home and paint than play a multi hour game designed to make me have the worst experience possible. Mathhammer can totally be used to build cheesy or abusive lists but I think most of us in this thread talk about that stuff just so that we can understand the game better. I don't think there's anyone in this thread that seems like a powergamer- even the guys that like to play competitively in here seem like they'd be a ton of fun to play a beer and pretzels game with.
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SRM posted:Yup! It also serves as a nice backdrop for everything without being physically intrusive. That's an hour twenty of good quality podcast for you fuckos. AKA An hour twenty of HOBBY PROGRESS. NO EXCUSES.
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The Sex Cannon posted:That's an hour twenty of good quality podcast for you fuckos. ive been listening to your backlog while playing titan quest, and its real sad to hear about srms lovely templars getting their asses kicked constantly
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Really want to paint some stuff but there's nowhere safe to spray in the house and the weather is being really uncooperative. On the other hand I turned my calth contemptor into a mortis using other peoples' unused melta arms and some spare forgeworld bits.
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Serious question because I see the weather issue come up often enough: Unless you’re priming something gigantic, why not just take a brush and black paint to it? I’ve primed almost 100% of my armies with a Chaos Black and a brush indoors and have never had an issue, weather or otherwise.
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PierreTheMime posted:Serious question because I see the weather issue come up often enough: Unless you’re priming something gigantic, why not just take a brush and black paint to it? I’ve primed almost 100% of my armies with a Chaos Black and a brush indoors and have never had an issue, weather or otherwise.
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The Sex Cannon posted:That's an hour twenty of good quality podcast for you fuckos. I do have an excuse, it's really late and I only have a lamp over my work space. That setup worked right up to the point I was going to do edge highlights. So Emperor knows how much I botched up my progress. 
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Still have a ton of cleanup to do, but I’m very happy about my Necron Lord so far. Still need to go fix the bases on the immortals however. 6 models a week seems like a really good pace but I know I won’t be able to do it all year long.  I’m already looking into my first Imperial army though. Is Deathwatch doing badly in the current edition? I keep getting mixed reviews from battle reports and reddit threads, but if they’re not doing well I’m probably just going to go with Blood Angels... because I am big and red and angsty inside, just like them.
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Entropy238 posted:Now that I’ve got a solid base for my army, I think I’m going to rotate between buying two weaker units for every good unit I get so I’m not just following whatever the meta is. If you end up buying and using sub-optimal units in your army, have a plan on how to and when to use them. Don't just run with a million Assault Squads because they are bad (actually, use Assault Squads because they are a really cool concept).
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SRM posted:Yup! It also serves as a nice backdrop for everything without being physically intrusive. Oh hells yeah.
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The Sex Cannon posted:That's an hour twenty of good quality podcast for you fuckos. So excited!! I’ll save it for tomorrow.
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The Sex Cannon posted:That's an hour twenty of good quality podcast for you fuckos. Jah bless
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Finally got ahold of some Blight-hauler kits. For being so cheap they’re so detailed and cute in a Nurgley way.   
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Principal Emperor just made me spray an immortal with green tea, because I completely lost my poo poo. Also new wash idea...
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Safety Factor posted:I always brush prime, but I wouldn't do it with straight black paint. Primer is a little different and adheres better to bare plastic. I've used gesso and Vallejo's latex primer, but I'm getting rid of that latex stuff after using it for a year or two. I'm just always frustrated with it when I see a bubble or speck of dried paint and try to remove it. That primer peels right off and I'm left with an indentation to fill with paint. I'm going back to gesso. Can I ask about gesso usage? I'm just starting back on painting miniatures after ~20 years. I used gesso on some dropzone commander figures and was unhappy with my results. In the wheel wells, it dried with a film connecting the wheel to the well. Is it just too thickly painted on? Should I be thinning it? Particularly, any tips you might have would be appreciated. I do prefer brush-on to using spray primer.
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Moose-Alini posted:So psyched and loved hearing last time that you almost love making it as much as I do listening to it. I get too talk about my favorite nerd poo poo with my favorite Dan, what's not to love? Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:ive been listening to your backlog while playing titan quest, and its real sad to hear about srms lovely templars getting their asses kicked constantly Story of my loving life right here, but as time goes on I'm doing slightly better with them.
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You're my second favorite Crabface McButterscotch or whatever the gently caress I called you. The point is I do not love you. Also, clowns are cool and good.
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TacoNight posted:Can I ask about gesso usage? I'm just starting back on painting miniatures after ~20 years. I used gesso on some dropzone commander figures and was unhappy with my results. In the wheel wells, it dried with a film connecting the wheel to the well. Is it just too thickly painted on? Should I be thinning it? You probably just painted it on too thickly. You really don't need to thin gesso but just be careful, especially around places that have small spaces.
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TacoNight posted:Can I ask about gesso usage? I'm just starting back on painting miniatures after ~20 years. I used gesso on some dropzone commander figures and was unhappy with my results. In the wheel wells, it dried with a film connecting the wheel to the well. Is it just too thickly painted on? Should I be thinning it? Which bottle of gesso are you using? I don't really thin mine. It can get all watery and weird.
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flamingweedle posted:Which bottle of gesso are you using? I don't really thin mine. It can get all watery and weird. It’s a basic bottle I got at Joanne fabrics, looks like Darice is the distributor. Things came out better the second batch, guess I just slapped it in too thick.
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The Sex Cannon posted:You're my second favorite Crabface McButterscotch or whatever the gently caress I called you. Wrong about clowns and wrong about Custodes. Wrong about awards, what is it like being wrong all the god drat time?
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General Olloth posted:You also could try the age-old tactic of buying stuff you can see yourself actually building and painting and are excited about. Do this. Hell, I spent all weekend building Primaris Wolf Priests because they don't exist and I wanted some cool rear end black-armored wolves to drop in with my Reavers for style.
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Uroboros posted:Wrong about clowns and wrong about Custodes. Wrong about awards, what is it like being wrong all the god drat time? "wrong" about anime, too you've never had a right opinion, and i doubt you ever will awards? what did i say about awards?
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Entropy238 posted:I’m going to do my best. It’s difficult to suppress the urge to power game, so that’s why I’m going to set rules about what I do and don’t buy. Stop being a pussy, buy a Guard army and crush all before you under a wave of no-look artillery fire
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Or be a swole cool dude and do the same thing with Death Guard. Seriously though, I am tempted to fit a second Plagueburst Crawler into my 1,500 point list. There's something cool about DG advancing on foot under cover of mortar fire. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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TacoNight posted:Can I ask about gesso usage? I'm just starting back on painting miniatures after ~20 years. I used gesso on some dropzone commander figures and was unhappy with my results. In the wheel wells, it dried with a film connecting the wheel to the well. Is it just too thickly painted on? Should I be thinning it? Sup "starting back painting minis and priming with gesso" buddy  In my experience, it really depends on the gesso and whether it needs to be watered down or not. I used to use black gesso from a couple different brands (Bob Ross and Liquitex), and generally speaking it didn't need to be thinned, but you did have to be careful and make sure it didn't get too heavily glopped on in certain areas. Otherwise it dried down just fine. Since I started back a couple months ago, I've been experimenting with Liquitex clear gesso and mixing it with whatever color I wanted to try as a base color. So far it basically works really well when mixed with a dark color (black, and darker shades of browns, greens, and blues) and a little water; lighter colors (like a bright red, for example) tend to leave a really streaky finish, and take multiple coats of the original color to get to an acceptable level.
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So I have a couple of carnifexes and I was wondering how people build/run them, I was thinking of something like OOE and one with scything talons and a biocannon but would it be better to specialize them?
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You know, I'm still really annoyed by the way they made HQ choices independant units. It's the one thing I really don't like about 8th edition. I know the reasoning, breaking up death stars etc. But it's really annoying when, for example, your Death Company make their charge, and their Chaplain whiffs and just sit there out of buff range. Me and a buddy are thinking of house-ruling this for our own games. Hq's can join units just like they used to, but they don't get a 'look-out sir' (Unless of course they're with a unit that has 'Command squad bodyguard' or a similar trait) and why they're attached whatever buff they have only applys to that unit. Same rule for Standards and Apothecarys, so you can actually build a viable Command Squad again.
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R0ckfish posted:So I have a couple of carnifexes and I was wondering how people build/run them, I was thinking of something like OOE and one with scything talons and a biocannon but would it be better to specialize them? If you’re running Old One Eye you’ll want Carnifices you can assault with and not worry about losing your shooting. I strongly prefer Screamer-Killers for this reason.
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R0ckfish posted:So I have a couple of carnifexes and I was wondering how people build/run them, I was thinking of something like OOE and one with scything talons and a biocannon but would it be better to specialize them? Generally you'll want fexes to be either pure shooting or pure melee to get the most out of the new upgrades. A lot of people magnetise the arms when building them too, so they don't get locked into a single build forever as rules or preferences change. To get the most out of OOE, run up him behind a couple of double-scytal fexes with the spore cloud upgrade for -1 to hit. OOE can't be targeted directly until his escorts are dead, and with his buff aura they become much more effective if they make it into combat.
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Starting my firstCSM list in 8th. However, the Battlescribe file (Chaos space Marines v39) I found when I updated is..weird. It has no Kharn or Abaddon or traitor Knights, all things that usually figure in my army. Are there any other files that work better? Also, any standouts among the stuf? I noticed daemoin engines don't seem so bad anymore, vindicators seem terrible, and my 9 obliterators are definitely not seeing play again.
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edit: ^^^^^ you need to pick a legion for their respective special characters. Chaos Knights are part of their own faction Questor Traitoris.Deptfordx posted:I know the reasoning, breaking up death stars etc. But it's really annoying when, for example, your Death Company make their charge, and their Chaplain whiffs and just sit there out of buff range. Not to take away from your point but with the charge movement and pile-in rules the way they are it is very easy to keep units in buff range of their attendant characters. Unless you're making really long charges or something. Der Waffle Mous fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Sephyr posted:Starting my firstCSM list in 8th. However, the Battlescribe file (Chaos space Marines v39) I found when I updated is..weird. It has no Kharn or Abaddon or traitor Knights, all things that usually figure in my army. Are there any other files that work better? They appear if you select the right Legion, selecting off the Legion list thingy at the top.
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Thanqol posted:They appear if you select the right Legion, selecting off the Legion list thingy at the top. Ahh. So you can't have Kharn unless you are playing a World Eaters legion force? That's....different. How do I toss in a chaos knight? Thanks for the help, by the way!
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Deptfordx posted:You know, I'm still really annoyed by the way they made HQ choices independant units. It's the one thing I really don't like about 8th edition. People complain about this all the time and what it tells me is that they're bad players. You should never be out of buff range unless you're doing something dumb like making a hail-mary 12" charge and then shoving all your dudes forward in a big scrum. Assuming you come in off deep strike and charge something 9.01" away, you need to trail one single dude back to sit in buff range of the character, with maybe one extra bridging guy (who can still fight since he'll be within 1" of a dude within 1" of an enemy) to accommodate unit coherency. If the character gets their charge off too, you can pile in with the trailing guy and get him into combat; if the character fluffs it then you leave him there to keep the buff going (or you trade off and decide the buff isn't worth losing out on that dude's attacks and pile him in). If you don't suck then it's very simple to accommodate and forces you to make an actual choice between getting all your attacks or getting less attacks but better quality, which is why so many awful players complain about it. That said, I think they did take it too far with e.g. Chapter Ancients or Court of the Archons where you have all these weird little orphan units in strange sizes because they used to be 5-man and now half of them are separate characters. IG Command Squads are probably weirdest, having worse Leadership than their equivalent basic infantry units because they don't get sergeants and the Company Commander is an individual dude on his own now, with no compensating rules interaction to change that.
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Sephyr posted:Ahh. So you can't have Kharn unless you are playing a World Eaters legion force? That's....different. How do I toss in a chaos knight? No, you can take either in any Chaos force. Battlescribe just sucks and isn't set up to build armies properly using keywords
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TheChirurgeon posted:No, you can take either in any Chaos force. Battlescribe just sucks and isn't set up to build armies properly using keywords Just be aware that if you do, without adding them to a seperate detatchment, you lose your legion-specific stuff.
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The Sex Cannon posted:"wrong" about anime, too When I’m done with my basement this weekend, I’ll get you what you want, and then that crow is going to taste so bad! Also I was going to say wrong about anime, but you’re right about 90% of it, not a hill I’m going to die on.
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Found this gem of a comment on the most recent Frontline Gaming batrep: Apparently dude is not aware that they play ITC missions all the time because they write the loving things and their channel exists to promote them. Also he's complaining about tourney players and having the latest spam list and Reece is running a loving Ork Dreadmob, a build which has to be practically at the bottom of the competitive heap. e: and "everyone hates competitive players because they're dicks. you guys are competitive players and not dicks. is my prejudice wrong or actually do you not know how to have fun properly?" lmao
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Uroboros posted:When I’m done with my basement this weekend, I’ll get you what you want, and then that crow is going to taste so bad! I have no idea what you're on about, but I am quivering with antici...pation!
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