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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

A lot of the prospects this year look pretty good. I'd say looking back on this draft most likely you're going to see 1-4 All-Pros and several Pro Bowls. looks Like football's making a comeback. In 2018-2019 expect a bunch of good players on the field in general

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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
In Washington-related news, RB Myles Gaskin decided to come back for his senior year. This surprised me because he already has lots of tread (686 carries in 3 years), could've been a solid 2nd/3rd round type, and his stock probably isn't getting any higher at this rate. Frankly, I think it's a mistake.

On one hand, Washington's gearing up for a Playoff push with a loaded senior class, so I get the sentiment to stick around, but still -- you're an RB, go get paid while you can.

Benne fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Jan 18, 2018

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Well, Mason Rudolph can't play in the Senior Bowl. His replacement?

I'll just repost this

Chris Mortensen posted:

Impressive enough that [Tanner] Lee could be drafted as high as the second round, in Mortensen's opinion, even though the 2018 quarterback draft class is considered to be a relatively strong one, headed by the likes of Josh Rosen of UCLA, Baker Mayfield of Oklahoma, Josh Allen of Wyoming and Luke Falk of Washington State.

"He has size and a great arm," Mortensen said of the 6-foot-4, 220-pound Lee. "He's going to throw better than the majority of quarterbacks who are going to be available. He's not on the radar right now because Nebraska wasn't on the radar.

"That's definitely the case, but I look at Lee as a guy who has potential to be a starter in the league. There's not a question whether he can be a No. 2 guy in the league; the question is whether he'll grow into a starter in the league, I think."

E: And who wants to share Kiper's new mock; it just dropped. Has Allen #1 and Rosen at #2

Real Name Grover fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jan 18, 2018

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler
Phoneposting but use this: http://insider2text.xyz/

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

I no longer want to hear poo poo about how everyone knew that Josh Allen would be bad.

quote:

1. Cleveland Browns
*Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming

Cleveland has to take a quarterback. Has to. And a winless season means the Browns can pick whichever one they want. My evaluations on this quarterback class are really close. I've gone back and forth a few times on Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold and Allen, but I just moved Allen up to my No. 1 quarterback. His numbers aren't impressive, I know. But the NFL is all about projection, and he has a high ceiling. Coaches want to work with the 6-foot-5 Allen because he has all of the tools. I said last month that he is one of my favorite prospects in this class. The other top quarterbacks have warts, and there is no slam-dunk No. 1 prospect, which makes it a fun class. Scouts are looking forward to seeing Allen at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama, next week, where he will work out with much better talent.
lol he projects a safety to the Jets after they drafted Adams and Maye 1/2 last year.

Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jan 18, 2018

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
1. Cleveland Browns
*Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming

Cleveland has to take a quarterback. Has to. And a winless season means the Browns can pick whichever one they want. My evaluations on this quarterback class are really close. I've gone back and forth a few times on Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold and Allen, but I just moved Allen up to my No. 1 quarterback. His numbers aren't impressive, I know. But the NFL is all about projection, and he has a high ceiling. Coaches want to work with the 6-foot-5 Allen because he has all of the tools. I said last month that he is one of my favorite prospects in this class. The other top quarterbacks have warts, and there is no slam-dunk No. 1 prospect, which makes it a fun class. Scouts are looking forward to seeing Allen at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama, next week, where he will work out with much better talent.

2. New York Giants
*Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA

Rosen is the top pure passer in this class. He looked better than Darnold when UCLA and USC played late in the season. Rosen, however, has dealt with injuries the past two seasons, and there have already been rumblings that he doesn't want to end up in Cleveland. There are some red flags. But some team is going to draft him high -- he has rare arm talent and has been much more secure with the ball than Darnold and Allen. The Giants could move into life after Eli Manning with a new franchise quarterback.


3. Indianapolis Colts
Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State

Indianapolis is in a good spot to take the best non-quarterback available, and the No. 1 pass-rusher in this class is Chubb. He has a tremendous motor and has been unblockable for two straight years. He has 46.5 tackles for loss since the beginning of the 2016 season. Chubb was the tone-setter for the Wolfpack, and coaches raved about him as a leader. The Colts ranked 31st in the league in sacks (25) this season, and Chubb is a great fit.

4. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans)
*Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State

This is the pick acquired in the Texans' trade up for Deshaun Watson last year. Cleveland has a new front office, and Barkley could be the best overall player in this class -- he's No. 1 on my Big Board. But how much do teams value running backs? We've seen in recent years that they can hit on backs in the top 10 (Leonard Fournette, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley), but the Browns also have recent history missing on one (Trent Richardson, though they got a first-round pick in return). And there is always value in the middle rounds -- just look at Kareem Hunt and Alvin Kamara in 2017. Barkley is a big-time running back, and I think he'll be a top-10 pick. He is built for today's NFL as a do-it-all runner and pass-catcher out of the backfield.

5. Denver Broncos
*Sam Darnold, QB, USC

Denver sits in a pivotal spot in the draft. Will it take the third quarterback? Could it move down? There will be a ripple effect in the top 10. Either way, it looks like the Broncos are ready to move on from 2016 first-round pick Paxton Lynch. Darnold had an up-and-down season and struggled with turnovers -- his 22 were tied for most in the FBS. Can he figure out the ball security? If he can get rid of the bad habits, he could be a special player. Darnold is an accurate, natural passer with high upside who still needs to tweak his mechanics. I believe in his talent long-term, and I think John Elway would love to have him in Denver.

6. New York Jets
*Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB, Alabama

Fitzpatrick is the top cornerback and safety in this draft. He could play either position. He was primarily a safety at Alabama, but he covered receivers in the slot and on the outside, and he consistently made plays. New York took safeties with its top two picks last year (Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye), so Fitzpatrick would be a corner for the Jets, who have an opening with Morris Claiborne a free agent this offseason. This is another spot to watch for one of the top quarterbacks.

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
*Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame

The Bucs couldn't run the ball in 2017, averaging only 3.7 yards per carry and 90.6 yards per game. Was it the running backs, the offensive line or both? Nelson is a plug-and-play starter who would be an upgrade for almost every team. He's a dominant run-blocker at 6-5, 330, who causes destruction at the point of attack. If Barkley falls a little bit, could the Bucs snag him at No. 7?

8. Chicago Bears
*Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama

Chicago has to add weapons for Mitchell Trubisky, and Ridley is the best receiver in this class by a mile. If the Bears can get a pass-catcher here -- and don't upgrade in free agency -- Ridley makes the most sense. If he had played in a better passing offense, he could have been a Biletnikoff winner. He's extremely talented.

9. San Francisco 49ers
*Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State

The 49ers have a really solid young core on defense, but most of their top picks were spent on the front seven. They really need a top-tier cornerback. Ward is the top corner in this class -- if you consider Fitzpatrick to be a safety -- though I don't have as high a grade on him as I did for his former teammate Marshon Lattimore, who went No. 11 last year and had a great rookie season in New Orleans. Ward flashed in 2016 and had a tremendous junior season.

10. Oakland Raiders
*Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia

Smith is the type of player new coach Jon Gruden loves. He's physical. He can get sideline to sideline in a hurry. He's a force in the middle. Smith was one of the best players on the field in the College Football Playoff National Championship, and he could slot into the middle of the Raiders' defense in place of NaVorro Bowman, who's a free agent. Oakland could also target a pass-rusher to help Khalil Mack & Co.

11. Miami Dolphins
Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame

The Dolphins are a tough team to pick for because the roster has so many questions. What's going to happen with free agent Jarvis Landry? Are they set long-term at quarterback? Is there a No. 1 back on the team? And that's just offense. For now I'll go with McGlinchey, who is my top-ranked tackle in a solid class. There are five tackles who could go in the first round. He has played on the left and right sides and could be the immediate starter at right tackle for the Dolphins, who have Laremy Tunsil slotted in on the blindside.

12. Cincinnati Bengals
*Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech

Edmunds is another one of my favorite prospects. At 6-5, he doesn't have the typical frame of a middle linebacker, but he truly could play inside or outside -- he had 109 total tackles and 14 tackles for loss in 2017. If he ended up in Cincinnati under new defensive coordinator Teryl Austin, he'd probably be an outside linebacker who could rush the passer on passing downs. I've said before that Edmunds has the most upside of any linebacker in this class.

13. Washington Redskins
Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma

This all depends on Kirk Cousins. Is Washington going to franchise tag him again? Remember, if the Redskins do it for the third straight year, he would cost more than $34 million in 2018. Could Washington let him test the free-agent market? He could get a huge deal, but it might not be from the Redskins. If Cousins walks, there's no ready-made replacement. They would have to scan the free-agent market or draft a quarterback. Don't count out the Heisman Trophy winner being taken this high. He is going to get a chance to impress scouts at the Senior Bowl, and I know they're interested in seeing how he performs. If Washington keeps Cousins, inside linebacker is a clear position of need.

14. Green Bay Packers
Marcus Davenport, DE, UT San Antonio

Yes, Green Bay has Clay Matthews and Nick Perry, but Matthews will be 32 when the 2018 season begins, and he hasn't had double-digit sacks in a season since 2014, and Perry didn't replicate his breakout 2016 season and had only 13 quarterback knockdowns. The Packers need a young pass-rusher. There has been a buzz about Davenport, who has a huge 6-6 frame and rare quick-twitch traits off the edge. He's one of the best pure pass-rushers in this class, and we'll get to see him against better competition at the Senior Bowl.

15. Arizona Cardinals
*Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa

This is a tough spot because the Cardinals don't have a coach yet. Could they target a quarterback? It's probably safe to say that Drew Stanton and Blaine Gabbert will have some company in the QB room, but that could also come in free agency. Arizona has been looking for years for a corner to play opposite of superstar Patrick Peterson, and Jackson is a good fit. He was phenomenal in his lone season as a starter, picking off eight passes, including three in the Hawkeyes' win over Ohio State. He has great length at 6-1 and has long arms. The question will be his straight-line speed, so his 40-yard dash time will be big. But Jackson was the best corner in college football in 2017.

16. Baltimore Ravens
*Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh

Right tackle Austin Howard didn't have a great year in pass protection, and the Ravens could find an immediate upgrade with O'Neill, a former tight end who kept his athleticism as he put on weight and moved to tackle. He was dominant on the left side at times this season after starting on the right in 2015 and 2016. O'Neill could also kick in and play guard.

17. Los Angeles Chargers
*Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama

The best nose tackle in this class is Payne, who was a monster in the College Football Playoff, even if he didn't always show up on the stat sheet. Georgia couldn't block him in the national title game. The Chargers are set with good, young pass-rushers, but they could upgrade on Brandon Mebane, who's signed for only another year. Payne would strengthen the belly of a defense that ranked last in the league in rushing yards per attempt allowed (4.9).

18. Seattle Seahawks
*Derwin James, S, Florida State

James is tough to figure out, but Seattle would be thrilled to get him here. He's super talented and looked like a top-five pick as a freshman at Florida State in 2015, but he missed the entire 2016 season because of a knee injury. James had a solid 2017 season with 84 total tackles and two interceptions, but scouts wanted to see more. At his peak, though, James is a typical Seattle safety and fits what it looks for. Kam Chancellor's future is up in the air after a neck injury, and the Seahawks could need a replacement.

19. Dallas Cowboys
*Vita Vea, DT, Washington

The Cowboys took a step backward in 2017, and it was a regression across the board. Receiver could be a target here, along with offensive tackle. But what's tough to find on the free-agent market is a disruptive defensive tackle, which Dallas just didn't have. Vea is a freakish talent at 6-4, 346 pounds who can be a three-down player and add an interior pass-rush presence.

20. Detroit Lions
*Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State

Ezekiel Ansah had a bounce-back year with 12 sacks, but he's a free agent. Will the Lions give him a long-term deal? Detroit's No. 2 sacker was former sixth-round pick Anthony Zettel, who had 6.5, so this is a clear area of need. Hubbard is probably better for team that plays a 4-3 like the Lions. He didn't have a consistent 2017 season, but he finished strong with 2.5 sacks at Michigan and 2.5 more in the bowl win over USC. Is he Joey Bosa? No, but that's why Bosa went No. 3 overall. Hubbard would be good value at pick No. 20.

21. Buffalo Bills
*Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida

Buffalo got a great rookie season out of first-round pick Tre'Davious White, but there's a hole on the other side because E.J. Gaines, who was part of the Sammy Watkins trade, is a free agent. The Bills could bring back Gaines, but they could also target another corner on Day 1. The arrow is pointing way up on Hughes, who emerged as a shutdown corner in 2017. He could also help on special teams as a returner.

22. Buffalo Bills (from Kansas City Chiefs)
Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan

The Bills picked up this extra pick when the Chiefs traded up to draft Patrick Mahomes last year, and they ended up with back-to-back picks after a surprise playoff season. Hurst is a 3-technique penetrator who gets into the backfield and gets after quarterbacks. He's a perfect fit for a 4-3 team, and the Bills need pass-rushers. They had only 27 sacks in 2017, which ranked 29th in the league. Buffalo is a team to watch for the second tier of quarterbacks because Tyrod Taylor's future is up in the air.

23. Los Angeles Rams
*Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn

If the Rams had a weakness in their huge turnaround from 2016 to 2017, it was at cornerback. They have to upgrade. Trumaine Johnson was franchise tagged last offseason and is a free agent. Nickell Robey-Coleman is also a free agent. Troy Hill is a restricted free agent. This is a clear hole. Davis had a great season and is my fourth-ranked corner. At 6-1, 200 pounds, he has good size.

24. Carolina Panthers
Billy Price, C/G, Ohio State

The Panthers are locked in with one of the best centers in the league in Ryan Kalil, so Price could be a replacement for free-agent guard Andrew Norwell. Carolina already has a lot of money committed to its O-line and might not be able to afford Norwell. Price was a three-year starter at guard for the Buckeyes before moving over to center as a senior. He has the frame to play either spot.

25. Tennessee Titans
Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College

Tennessee needs a young pass-rusher. Veterans Brian Orakpo and Derrick Morgan will both be free agents in 2019, and 2016 second-round pick Kevin Dodd has only one career sack in limited action. I thought Landry had a chance to be a top-10 pick after he had 16.5 sacks last season, but he had a down 2017 season and missed five games because of an ankle injury. He's talented, but he needs to show he's fully healthy and explosive. The Titans will have a new head coach and could have a different scheme if they move away from Dick Lebeau's 3-4.

26. Atlanta Falcons
*Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M

Kirk isn't a giant, go-to No. 1 wide receiver -- he's only 5-11 -- but Atlanta doesn't need that with Julio Jones already on the roster. Kirk would be a versatile offensive threat who could immediately help as both a punt and kick returner. He can play in the slot and burn defensive backs, and he could play outside too. Kirk had an up-and-down 2017 season, but he still finished with 12 total touchdowns, including two on returns. He's my No. 2-ranked receiver.

27. New Orleans Saints
*Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU

Drew Brees is 39, and the Saints just made a playoff run with one of the most productive rookie classes in recent history. This is a team built to win right now. Sutton is a huge 6-4 matchup nightmare who could play opposite budding superstar Michael Thomas. He was inconsistent at times for the Mustangs, but he's a big play-threat who averaged at least 16 yards per catch over the past three seasons. New Orleans could have some receiver turnover with Brandon Coleman and Willie Snead both restricted free agents.

28. Pittsburgh Steelers
Rashaan Evans, ILB, Alabama

The big looming question for the Steelers is Ryan Shazier's future, and no one knows if he'll play again. Even if he returns, though, the Steelers need depth at linebacker. Evans is versatile enough to play inside or outside, and he had 15 career sacks at Alabama, where he often played on the edge and blitzed. He is a perfect fit in the middle of a modern-day defense -- he can play every down.

29. Jacksonville Jaguars
*Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma

Could the Jaguars target a quarterback here? It's possible, though they might want a veteran whom they could plug in and play for a team that is trying to win with a loaded defense that has almost all of its best players under contract. So I'm going with a versatile 6-6 pass-catcher who is a mismatch wherever he lines up. Marcedes Lewis is really just a blocker at this stage of his career, and Andrews is a huge receiver who needs to improve his blocking. Receiver might also be an option as Marqise Lee and Allen Robinson are both free agents.

30. Philadelphia Eagles
*Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA

Jason Peters, a stalwart at left tackle for the Eagles, turns 36 this month and is recovering from a torn ACL and MCL. Can they really expect him back at his best? I don't think fifth-round pick Halapoulivaati Vaitai is the answer as his replacement, either, which means Philadelphia could move super athletic right tackle Lane Johnson to Carson Wentz's blindside, and draft a new right tackle. Miller is a developmental prospect with a 6-8 frame and limited game time. He has a high ceiling.

31. Minnesota Vikings
*Connor Williams, OT, Texas

The Vikings spent a lot of money last offseason on free-agent tackles Mike Remmers and Riley Reiff, and the duo had a solid season, but Remmers moved to guard late in the year because of injuries. Could he stay there in 2018 and beyond? I like Williams as a left tackle, but he could move to the right side. He suffered a sprained MCL and PCL in his left knee and missed seven games in 2017, but he looked like a potential top-10 pick last season. This could be a value pick.

32. New England Patriots
*Rasheem Green, DE, USC

Green was absolutely unblockable in the second half of the season, finishing with 10 sacks and 12.5 tackles for loss. He could play tackle in a 4-3 defense or end in a 3-4, which is probably what he'd be for New England. At 6-4, 275 pounds, Green has a tremendous frame, and I think he'll be impressive in workouts. Could New England think about a quarterback here? Tom Brady, who will be 41 when the 2018 season begins, is the only signal-caller with a contract for next season. The Patriots will also have a pick in the first half of the second round as a result of the Jimmy Garoppolo trade.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Diva Cupcake posted:

I no longer want to hear poo poo about how everyone knew that Josh Allen would be bad.

lol he projects a safety to the Jets after they drafted Adams and Maye 1/2 last year.

I like how everyone just assumes that the jets will just always ignore offense in the draft and overdraft guys from lower impact positions since thats what they always do.

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames
Good thing the Browns were basically banned from coaching Allen in the Senior Bowl this year because of how bad they ran things last year.

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

What are Josh Rosen's "red flags"?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
It sucks that in the year the Bears desperately need a WR and safety, the best choices are between : small old guy out of alabama who caught 2 balls a game, big guy at SMU no one believes in, guy who's basically a linebacker at CB/S and doesn't cover well, and guy who covered well two years ago but got hurt

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
I'm so fuckin down with Roquan Smith

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Cash Monet posted:

What are Josh Rosen's "red flags"?

Doesn't want to play for a team that went 0-16 and is run by a felon.

Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!
No Lamar Jackson in that 1st round?

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Sad King Billy posted:

No Lamar Jackson in that 1st round?

why would anyone draft someone who converted to wide receiver in the first rougughdfuihfdugijdsfhguidg

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
Mel Kiper successfully gets all of you again with his lovely rear end mocks

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
Edmunds at 12 is cool though he's my favorite LB MAKE HIM RISE TO TOP TEN KIPER MAKE HIM RISE

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


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mastershakeman posted:

It sucks that in the year the Bears desperately need a WR and safety, the best choices are between : small old guy out of alabama who caught 2 balls a game, big guy at SMU no one believes in, guy who's basically a linebacker at CB/S and doesn't cover well, and guy who covered well two years ago but got hurt

Safety isn't as big a need as cornerback. Eddie Jackson and Adrian Amos are a legitimate safety tandem. We have zero cornerbacks under contract.

We do need all the wide receivers though.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Mocking before the Super Bowl has to be the dumbest loving thing

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Cash Monet posted:

What are Josh Rosen's "red flags"?

This gets asked every few weeks, it seems.

He’s “too smart.”
He’s outspoken on issues.
He and his HC hated each other, and I’m sure Mora had bad things to say about him to every other coach he knows.

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
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Coldforge posted:

This gets asked every few weeks, it seems.

He’s “too smart.”
He’s outspoken on issues.
He and his HC hated each other, and I’m sure Mora had bad things to say about him to every other coach he knows.

Him hating Mora should be viewed as a positive.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

DariusLikewise posted:

Mocking before the Super Bowl has to be the dumbest loving thing

They must know horribly inaccurate it is so the only explanation is clickbait. Most of those positions will shuffle with new names and new rankings in about two weeks or so after the combine.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches

DariusLikewise posted:

Mocking before the Super Bowl has to be the dumbest loving thing

Well ...

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails
The Browns drafting Josh Allen #1 overall would literally be the funniest thing to ever happen on the planet earth please god make this happen

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Sataere posted:

Safety isn't as big a need as cornerback. Eddie Jackson and Adrian Amos are a legitimate safety tandem. We have zero cornerbacks under contract.

We do need all the wide receivers though.

Adrian amos sucks and i'm sick of seeing wide open players running downfield but yeah CB is a mess too
everything's a loving mess. Half the good players have huge injury concerns too (long, floyd)

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Doltos posted:

They must know horribly inaccurate it is so the only explanation is clickbait. Most of those positions will shuffle with new names and new rankings in about two weeks or so after the combine.

It's so they can do their real mock the day before the draft and make more clickbait articles like "Josh Allen entered our rankings as the #1 pick but a poor performance at the Senior Bowl and the emergence of (some D3 QB who is 6'8) moved him down to the 4th ranked QB."

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Judging by the 30+ new posts in this thread and Josh Allen trending on Twitter all morning, I'd say the Mel Kiper mock is accomplishing exactly what they want it to

(Y'all fall for this every year and it never stops being funny)

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Sad King Billy posted:

No Lamar Jackson in that 1st round?

nobody learned their lesson from letting deshaun watson slide, it appears

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS

Those Bills picks make some sense, though I don't think they'd pass on QB and WR.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Cash Monet posted:

What are Josh Rosen's "red flags"?

liberal

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Benne posted:

Judging by the 30+ new posts in this thread and Josh Allen trending on Twitter all morning, I'd say the Mel Kiper mock is accomplishing exactly what they want it to

(Y'all fall for this every year and it never stops being funny)

Thanks for the 31st post meme

(32)

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Marquis de Pyro posted:

The Browns drafting Josh Allen #1 overall would literally be the funniest thing to ever happen on the planet earth please god make this happen

Tanner Lee would have a word

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
Step 2: Attack straw man
Step 3: REPEAT

Do not engage with me



mastershakeman posted:

Adrian amos sucks and i'm sick of seeing wide open players running downfield but yeah CB is a mess too
everything's a loving mess. Half the good players have huge injury concerns too (long, floyd)

Adrian Amos didn't suck this year. The Bears defense regressed when he was hurt. I'm not saying they shouldn't draft safety help, but it's low on the list of concerns. I think the Bears needs are

1) Wide Receiver
2) Offensive Tackle




3) Cornerback
4) OLB
5) Safety

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
lol
https://twitter.com/MatthewFairburn/status/954098187161174016

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Yeah he's got that Potato Bowl trophy to prove it

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide

to be fair he did technically win, that does give him something the browns don't have

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9dQTL7bxyc

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Cash Monet posted:

What are Josh Rosen's "red flags"?

Concussions?

Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!

PupsOfWar posted:

nobody learned their lesson from letting deshaun watson slide, it appears

I wanted Houston to take offensive line, glad I was wrong.

MrLogan
Feb 4, 2004

Is Allen this year's Eli Apple or Eric Ebron?

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Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

MrLogan posted:

Is Allen this year's Eli Apple or Eric Ebron?

Kizer. Writers and scouts are pumping him up despite poor performance.

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