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If you have a BA what would you enlist when you can get a commission
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Dec 23, 2017 20:19
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GREAT SATAN fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Dec 28, 2020 |
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Dec 23, 2017 20:53
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GREAT SATAN posted:if only I could roll back the hands of time my man don't re-enlist. get out and if you really, really can't handle it, find a way back in on the O side. i think you're just worried about stability. do you have the GI Bill? go get a degree (or masters) that is worth a poo poo and get some civilian employment that will pay more and treat you better.
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Dec 23, 2017 20:56
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GREAT SATAN posted:if only I could roll back the hands of time my man You can take a commission now if you feel the need to stay in. Don't re-enlist imo. Commission or get out.
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Dec 23, 2017 21:59
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And FFS have a plan on how to actually maximize the time you're buying yourself. Wring every benefit you can out of it, get every cert/qual/paper you can.
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Dec 24, 2017 01:11
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Unless something's changed you could extend 6 months to get your poo poo altogether. Then use GI Bill/unemployment/use your clearance if you have one to get a gig that doesn't so closely resemble hell.
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Dec 24, 2017 01:44
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What MOS and what timeframe are you looking at? If you want to do "computers" get yourself ccent or security+ in like a week of studying and start filling out applications. Even completely online schools still get you $850 BAH at 100% if you're worried about going full time.
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Dec 25, 2017 23:35
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The Sec+ test is changing drastically in June and will be easier with more memory game questions and less questions that make you think.
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Dec 25, 2017 23:47
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Just to give an opinion opposite of what everybody else is, staying in isn't so bad. I work roughly 745 to 3 every day with an hour or two lunch whenever I feel like. I supervise one person and he's really chill with no drama. I'm paid $70k a year as an E6 and about 1/3rd of that isn't even taxable. I pay very little for medical care for my family of five (I know it's not the best but we get what we need when we ask for it). I'm almost guaranteed a promotion as long as I'm not complete fuckup and an annual pay raise for basically breathing. Every year I'm expected to pass a PT test, write the occasional package for my subordinate if he's deserving, show up to boring rear end meetings and conferences, and dumbass CBTs, formations, etc. But overall, it really isn't that bad. It's a lot of inconvenience of my time and the occasional effort, but that's about it. Obviously this is all specific to my situation and doesn't reflect the bullshit you may have to go through. I think that I've made the American Dream by getting paid a lot to do very little with low expectations. I don't have a degree and my experience doesn't translate to much other than being a fat, bearded contractor doing the same thing praying that my pay doesn't fluctuate or my job gets cut every time the contract renewal comes up. Just something to think about.
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Dec 26, 2017 01:03
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Counterpoint: I didn't see my kid for 3 years.
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Dec 26, 2017 01:22
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So you get a commission, go to BOLC or whatever your branches officer training is, get out at like 3 or 4 pm when you're not in the field. While in between follow on courses you'll show up for PT and 0930 formation and then have the rest of the day off to jerk off, go to the gym, see what there is to do in Columbus, GA (hint:nothing, burn this city to the ground), go to the gym, jerk off. You might accumulate 3 months of jerking off before you're done with your follow on schools and go to your first duty station. You'll get to your first duty station and mostly likely end up on staff working with a bunch of other LT's and some CPT's. Depending on where you're stationed you may or may not be surrounded by a bunch of socially awkward academy grads that make you cringe every time you see them interact with somebody that isn't an officer. If you're at Lewis, Carson, Germany or Italy you're probably swamped by West Pointers. Eventually you'll be sent down to a platoon to be a PL. This is the most fun part. If you're not a dickbag you'll enjoy working with your NCO's and PSG, and non shitbag soldiers. On the other hand, you'll constantly be tasked to do things that seem like a tremendous waste of time. You WILL waste a tremendous amount of time as a PL. Whether it's standing around twiddling your thumbs in the motor pool watching oil stains grow because your new BN leadership come from an ABCT or waiting for your soldiers to print out AT lvl 1 certs from a printer 2 miles from the computer they're using, you are going to waste a lot of time. And here's some free chicken as the Army likes to say: right click somebody's name on their AT lvl 1 cert, click edit text, and then have one your NCO's fill in everybody's name to print off. Congratulations, you and your platoon never have to do 90% of online training ever again. And then there's all the personal issues you have to deal with like divorces, DUI's, drug dealing, theft, whatever. If one of your soldiers farts you better have a counselling ready. So, what I'm trying to get at is this: gently caress the Army.
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Dec 26, 2017 04:42
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Mustang posted:So you get a commission, go to BOLC or whatever your branches officer training is, get out at like 3 or 4 pm when you're not in the field. While in between follow on courses you'll show up for PT and 0930 formation and then have the rest of the day off to jerk off, go to the gym, see what there is to do in Columbus, GA (hint:nothing, burn this city to the ground), go to the gym, jerk off. You might accumulate 3 months of jerking off before you're done with your follow on schools and go to your first duty station. Lol
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Dec 26, 2017 04:46
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Mustang posted:So you get a commission, go to BOLC or whatever your branches officer training is, get out at like 3 or 4 pm when you're not in the field. While in between follow on courses you'll show up for PT and 0930 formation and then have the rest of the day off to jerk off, go to the gym, see what there is to do in Columbus, GA (hint:nothing, burn this city to the ground), go to the gym, jerk off. You might accumulate 3 months of jerking off before you're done with your follow on schools and go to your first duty station. Saving this post for science
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Dec 26, 2017 05:36
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GREAT SATAN fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Dec 28, 2020 |
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Dec 26, 2017 22:34
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you know when you see a dejected teenager explaining how everyone is fake and everything is bullshit and nobody understands and it's like chill out little guy, you got plenty of terrible years ahead of you don't let this little poo poo get you down
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Jan 2, 2018 16:17
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Mustang posted:And here's some free chicken as the Army likes to say: right click somebody's name on their AT lvl 1 cert, click edit text, and then have one your NCO's fill in everybody's name to print off. Congratulations, you and your platoon never have to do 90% of online training ever again. If anyone's still in, try to get your certs from JKO instead of ATRS(w/e that poo poo is called), they save their PDFs in layers, so you can just download the background image, and then use Photoshop or something to rename the cert to w/e peron's name is, and/or rename the title of the certs. Used to have a template so my team would have 100% annual training within 30 minutes. If you spam click on "Next" for JKO content before the page fully loads, it'll skip to the next page and still be 100% green on your progress, keep pressing next until you get to the test page. Most JKO tests are multiple choice questions with 1k tries to complete one; just go down the page, check the 1st bubble on your first pass, 2nd bubble on your 2nd pass, so on, correct answers won't be re-asked on your next pass.. There's a few questions that switches, just figure those out. But generally speaking you should finish the test in 4-6 passes. They finally fixed the bypass glitch on the DoD annual cyber awareness BS, but I'm out, so.... quote:So, what I'm trying to get at is this: gently caress the Army.
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Jan 5, 2018 18:00
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Hey dudes; having a hard time getting a straight answer on BRS. Does the gov match 5% of your base pay, or total? Ie when I go to mypay, login and click TSP, should I put 5% in each box under the Traditional column, or just the base pay? I'm using the TSP only for the match, and keeping the rest in a non-gov IRA.
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Jan 8, 2018 17:50
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Dominoes posted:Hey dudes; having a hard time getting a straight answer on BRS. Does the gov match 5% of your base pay, or total? Ie when I go to mypay, login and click TSP, should I put 5% in each box under the Traditional column, or just the base pay? I'm using the TSP only for the match, and keeping the rest in a non-gov IRA. Base pay, emphasis mine http://militarypay.defense.gov/Port...2-15-093233-913 quote: Service Automatic (1%) Contributions. If you opt into the BRS, your service will
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Jan 8, 2018 17:57
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I feel like I want to stay in 20, but there might be bazillion reasons out there that'd change it, against my will or otherwise. Should I opt into BRS? I feel like I should. In case I do, 40 percent of base pay is still pretty decent, plus I have my TSP. I know this is a very broad question, but I'm having a hard time right now deciding.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:04
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Nick Soapdish posted:Base pay, emphasis mine Any tricks to getting a TSP account while deployed? Customer service told me wait a few pay periods, then have someone at home sort through my mail and forward me the login info which will eventually arrive.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:15
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Vahakyla posted:I feel like I want to stay in 20, but there might be bazillion reasons out there that'd change it, against my will or otherwise. Should I opt into BRS? I feel like I should. In case I do, 40 percent of base pay is still pretty decent, plus I have my TSP. I know this is a very broad question, but I'm having a hard time right now deciding. The likelyhood of you staying until 20 years is not high. Half of GiP probably thought they'd stay for 20 early in their careers until they hit a wall and noped the gently caress out. Go for the BRS so you walk away with something.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:27
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DoktorLoken posted:The likelyhood of you staying until 20 years is not high. Half of GiP probably thought they'd stay for 20 early in their careers until they hit a wall and noped the gently caress out. Go for the BRS so you walk away with something. That’s my thought on it too.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:48
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DoktorLoken posted:The likelyhood of you staying until 20 years is not high. Half of GiP probably thought they'd stay for 20 early in their careers until they hit a wall and noped the gently caress out. Go for the BRS so you walk away with something. I’d say anyone less than halfway to retirement already should do this.
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Jan 8, 2018 19:59
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I just need a confirmation on my thoughts on the BRS in regards to Guard/Reserves: Basically it sucks for the reserve components, right? A normal year with no deployments nets me, say $10k. With max contributions on my part, the gov will only match $500 that year, right? It just doesn’t seem worth it to trade 20% of your pension for that tiny contribution. It seems great for active duty folks who probably won’t stay the full 20, but Guard/Reserves just don’t make enough at drill and AT over a given year for it to be worth it. I feel like I’m missing something, because this never came up during the briefings or CBT, and I have guys strongly considering it.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:21
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I already contribute 5 percent of my base pay that's divided between C-fund and one lifecycle fund, too. Hmm, I guess that's it, I'll go opt-in in MyPay. EDIT: Done. Thanks guys. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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Jan 9, 2018 10:05
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Any Marines here know anyone who went from fleet infantry to security forces (not MSG)? Or anyone who has been a red hat in Bridgeport? About to round out first deployment and wanted to get an idea of what my options are before I talk to the career planner.
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Jan 16, 2018 20:12
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35 with a family how dumb is it to join (no degree but ems certs)
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Jan 17, 2018 09:07
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What branch what job. Not gonna lie... it wasn’t easy leaving my family for a bit but I am just in the reserves. Active duty would be pretty rough. That said the family health benefits ain’t bad.
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Jan 17, 2018 09:18
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Navy, Mass Communications Specialist or Hospital Corpsman (until I hear how awful each one is)
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Jan 17, 2018 09:32
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Okay it depends, I take it there is some lack of optiosn ahead of you, and it’s why you are considering? Navy probably isn’t too bad overall. As an older family man, the initial separation of basic and advanced training was a lot more than I initially thought. Just be prepares to be separated completely from your family for 6-8 months. It’s something that sinks in way too late.
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Jan 17, 2018 10:47
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Banana Man posted:Navy, Mass Communications Specialist or Hospital Corpsman (until I hear how awful each one is) I know a mass comm guys. He enjoyed it so much he suggested his brother do it too. They still talk so I guess it’s really not that bad. They let him keep his rate when he went reserves and now he just takes photos of us “working”.
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Jan 17, 2018 20:04
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Any South Carolina guard here? I just moved here and will likely have to switch branches to transfer, we all know that usually means going to combat arms, ugh. Any units or branches to outright avoid in this state?
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Jan 18, 2018 22:49
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GreglFaggins posted:Any South Carolina guard here? I don't know who to avoid, but here's something that's down there: SCNG has the 263rd AAMDC (Army Air And Missile Defense Command). It is technically combat arms, but it's not grunt poo poo. There should be 14G and 14S slots a-plenty down there. Members of 263rd AAMDC can expect rotations to the national capital region as well as shorter activations for presidential packages when the president travels to set up things like sentinel radars, Avengers, or just to tie in to other radar networks. They also support some stuff like rotations to Europe or, to a lesser extent, rotations to Iraq/Afghanistan to do C-RAM.
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Jan 19, 2018 02:11
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GreglFaggins posted:Any South Carolina guard here? There's always the Air Guard...
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Jan 20, 2018 04:14
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mlmp08 posted:I don't know who to avoid, but here's something that's down there: All I know about the 263rd is my initial impression of them during a yellow ribbon but getting sent to the capital for six months every other year sounds like a pretty sweet gig. Granted they were all SNCOs and O4+ so good luck getting into that rotation if you aren't in the good old boys club.
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Jan 20, 2018 12:30
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If I have a choice between enlisting in the Air Force, or becoming a commissioned officer in the Army (coming in with a bachelor's degree), what's better? I mean, I would prefer to become an officer in the Air Force, but the recruiters have been giving me a difficult time. Should I just keep pushing them on it? *Better, as in, not being completely miserable
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Jan 21, 2018 20:53
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Jan 21, 2018 21:26
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Oh god
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Jan 21, 2018 21:41
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Yes, I know: "Don't enter." Just assume I have no choice. EDIT: If I request AFOQT, and get a qualifying score, am I basically eligible for the rest of the Officer screening process? I already took the ASVAB and got an extremely good score. The Unholy Ghost fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jan 21, 2018 |
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Jan 21, 2018 21:45
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I just posted this in the AF thread, but this is a good spot for it too. That recruiter probably doesn't deal with officers joining. He doesn't want to lose you for his quota. It's that simple. Get the contact info for your area's officer accessions recruiter. Might still be an enlisted person, but the process is different enough that the AF splits them up.
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