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No thank you on Allen. Either sign a QB or draft Lamar Jackson and Saquan Barkley for the Browns. And get a sicker O-Line to give wide holes and all day. K. THNX.
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a neat cape posted:Payne or Vea to the Chargers please That would be such a filthy DL
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MrLogan posted:Is Allen this year's Eli Apple or Eric Ebron? Christian Hackenberg
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Coldforge posted:Wow, Daurice Fountain looks good. Wonder how high he’s going to climb? Crazy mid round WR class again this year. https://twitter.com/zach_goodall/status/953287917283237888 https://twitter.com/ChaseGoodbread/status/953649096010752000 https://twitter.com/TampaBayTre/status/953291361620545538 https://twitter.com/Dan_Hope/status/953650299901800454
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Coldforge posted:https://twitter.com/zach_goodall/status/953287917283237888 Tbh Anonte Maddox isn't very good
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Is there any examples of QBs that have been as inaccurate in college as Allen has and had a good NFL career?
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mcmagic posted:Is there any examples of QBs that have been as inaccurate in college as Allen has and had a good NFL career? 
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Tbh Anonte Maddox isn't very good But consider the QB throwing the ball.
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mcmagic posted:Is there any examples of QBs that have been as inaccurate in college as Allen has and had a good NFL career? Stafford was almost as inaccurate.
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WHICH OF YOU LUCKY SONS OR DAUGHTERS WANTS TO DRAFT THE NEXT JAKE LOCKER?
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Remember when the bengals called mohamed sanu one round early by accident then said oh poo poo and made it seem like it was a "prank call" and then took him the very next round like they had planned
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MrLogan posted:Is Allen this year's Eli Apple or Eric Ebron? Allen's not ~bad~ per se. He can throw monster deep balls and there's good zip on his throws. Problem is he throws wobblers due to his feet placement when he's constantly scrambling behind Wyoming's line. He's also not the smartest guy on the field and makes a lot of forced boneheaded throws, but this is Wyoming football we're talking about. Their stadium seats less than 30k people for a reason. Losing to Iowa and Oregon isn't completely out of the question even if you have a NFL quality prospect at QB, and that QB performing poorly in those games isn't necessarily all on him. He seemed to clamp down a lot this year which resulted in way less INTs but way less flashiness. Allen also lost his unsung star RB Brian Hill to the draft last year (went to the Bengals I think) and they replaced him with two dinguses that couldn't establish a run game to save their lives. Their playcalling also got way worse and I remember turning off Wyoming games a few times earlier this year. But ya anyway he's not a first overall because of his accuracy issues and the lack of production this year but I can see a team falling in love with his arm strength. I'd say he's solidly top 50 right now. Marquis de Pyro posted:Christian Hackenberg No one is that bad Ches Neckbeard posted:Kizer. Writers and scouts are pumping him up despite poor performance. Kizer was a good QB prospect. Just because he flamed out on a historically bad team doesn't change that he threw a really pretty ball in college. Most people blamed all the inconsistent play on Kelly and Notre Dame graduating a ton of people in 16, among them his star LT, WR, and RB.
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If you miss Draft Breakdown and want to sift through some tape, this guy has compiled a great spreadsheet of prospect information.
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I like Jackson a lot, he seems to be one of the better passers in terms of delivery and speed, also compared to some of the other dudes I like the way he sees the field. But he's black, skinny, and not tall, and he can run, so I guess he'll end up like Watson.
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Allen is the toolsy guy that should go in the 2nd, but will go top 15.
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Probably Magic posted:WHICH OF YOU LUCKY SONS OR DAUGHTERS WANTS TO DRAFT THE NEXT JAKE LOCKER? Jake locker is exactly who I think of when I see josh Allen play. At least there aren't any Wyoming posters here defending him non stop like we had Washington posters with locker
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Listen, the ref was wearing camouflage, it could have happened to any QB
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algebra testes posted:I like Jackson a lot, he seems to be one of the better passers in terms of delivery and speed, also compared to some of the other dudes I like the way he sees the field. He's about half an inch and 5 pounds smaller than Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold
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Doltos posted:I just want to point out again that this was drafted with the 51st overall pick: This was actually a really good throw that hit the intended target 
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Doltos posted:I just want to point out again that this was drafted with the 51st overall pick: I mean I'm lollin' at the other ones and the fact that this one hit a guy not looking, but in this case he's actually doing the right thing and throwing the ball away instead of eating the sack or chucking it up for chance.
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Doltos posted:He's about half an inch and 5 pounds smaller than Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold Skinny Black Quarterback is the new System Quarterback scouts needed a new weird bugaboo now that practically everybody runs some Air Raid variation or another PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Jan 19, 2018 |
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Shangri-Law School posted:Stafford was almost as inaccurate. one big thing i remember before stafford was drafted was talking about how no QB who had failed to get to 60% completion in college ever ended up improving above it in the pros. i dont know if that stat is actually true but i remember a big deal being made of his fairly sub 60% rate.
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Prior to last season a big thing was made about no QB with a velocity as bad as DeShaun Watson ever being a long term starter in the league, never mind a good one. It’s all a crapshoot.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Prior to last season a big thing was made about no QB with a velocity as bad as DeShaun Watson ever being a long term starter in the league, never mind a good one. eh People who watch a lot of college ball thought Deshaun would be good and couldn't understand anyone drafting Hack you actually can glean stuff from the tapes
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Sure. People who watch a lot of college ball also thought Dan LeFevour was a future HoFer. No one is a 100% lock or bust.
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Diva Cupcake posted:It’s all a crapshoot. College stats mean nothing obviously or Mike Leach quarterbacks would have been ruining the NFL for the last 15 years. But has anyone been as dogshit as Josh Allen was in his final college year and done anything in the NFL? Jake Locker was the poster boy for "well his team let him down" and he sucked. And he was decently better than Allen in a much better conference. Josh Freeman sprang to mind too but he was far better than both in college, I guess I just remember him as really disappointing (I'm sure Jordy Nelson helped in that case).
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Grittybeard posted:College stats mean nothing obviously or Mike Leach quarterbacks would have been ruining the NFL for the last 15 years. But has anyone been as dogshit as Josh Allen was in his final college year and done anything in the NFL?  https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-mccown-1.html McCown might have the single worst college career other than like Matt Cassel who actually had a decent pro career. e: Found on the FO site. The list of quarterbacks taken in the top 100 with a sub-55% completion percentage tehir final year in college. Brock Huard Dave Ragone Kyle Boller Marques Tuiasosopo Quincy Carter Christian Hackenberg Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jan 19, 2018 |
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Whew, McCown has had quite the career after that. Jesus how did he ever get a look?
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Cavauro posted:Remember when the bengals called mohamed sanu one round early by accident then said oh poo poo and made it seem like it was a "prank call" and then took him the very next round like they had planned It was an actual prank call and they drafted him in the 3rd not 2nd
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Grittybeard posted:Whew, McCown has had quite the career after that. Jesus how did he ever get a look? He transferred after his junior year to Sam Houston State and had a significantly better year code:
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WinnebagoWarrior posted:Jake locker is exactly who I think of when I see josh Allen play. At least there aren't any Wyoming posters here defending him non stop like we had Washington posters with locker Josh Allen's pro comparison is Logan Thomas.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Boy that's a tough one. Rex Grossman was pretty bad his final year in college. Also, That list is.... bad.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Sure. People who watch a lot of college ball also thought Dan LeFevour was a future HoFer. Dan LeFevour is the coolest backup QB that Winnipeg has ever had
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seiferguy posted:I mean I'm lollin' at the other ones and the fact that this one hit a guy not looking, but in this case he's actually doing the right thing and throwing the ball away instead of eating the sack or chucking it up for chance. There were more horrible Hackenberg gifs but I couldn't get them to load, that was a relatively minor one but was funny cus he probably wasn't trying to throw the ball way and the whole dinging the guy in the face. Diva Cupcake posted:Sure. People who watch a lot of college ball also thought Dan LeFevour was a future HoFer. There was a weird goon rally around the Fever when he was coming out mainly because he was one of those do it all QBs and had a great college statline in the MAC. It was really evident that he had no arm strength and never completed downfield passes. He was king dump off and his scrambling wasn't that good either. All that made him predictably drop in the draft. Raku posted:eh We all watched a lot of Clemson thanks to ESPN and Watson really didn't look that good. He floated passes, had bad footwork, and didn't have the greatest combination of accuracy and arm strength. I didn't think he'd be good at all, much less a ROY/Franchise QB candidate after 8 games. It is kinda a crap shoot sometimes unless your name is Christian Hackenberg. I don't even hate Hackenberg I just hate that he exists solely to undermine the faith in NFL decision makers.
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