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squidflakes posted:Hey Redeye, sorry if I weirded you out the other day while grinding out those DOY missions! Took me a minute to remember. You're good! I was a little "did I piss off this guy somewhere?" for a bit but if I seemed testy at all that was literally my first randoms game in the Indy AND my first randoms game with manual air control since they took it off the T4 and T5s. So when all my poo poo got scrapped by strafes it was really driving me crazy.
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I've been reading up on bounce mechanics and I still don't understand one thing. Assume no overmatch, autobounce angle is 60 degrees. I have been unable to find from what angle that 60 degrees is measured. So of the following two (very high quality) diagrams, with the green line showing the vector of incoming fire, which will autobounce. 
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Jan 19, 2018 16:39
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Autobounce threshold is the green line on diagram A
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Jan 19, 2018 17:04
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xanif posted:I've been reading up on bounce mechanics and I still don't understand one thing. It's 60 degrees from the normal angle, so it's the green line on A.
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Jan 19, 2018 17:28
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Thanks. Time to get my angling on.
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Jan 19, 2018 17:52
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So it's been a while: what's the deal with UK BB's? Should I always be using HE? Is it situational?
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Jan 19, 2018 18:43
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I think it's HE most of the time but don't be afraid to AP broadside targets. Some UK BBs have really good AP but I forget which ones
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Jan 19, 2018 18:46
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Hot Karl Marx posted:I think it's HE most of the time but don't be afraid to AP broadside targets. Some UK BBs have really good AP but I forget which ones Should I be taking the "switch ammo types at 50% of reload speed" skill for my captain?
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The HE is so ridiculous on most of the British tree that you can get away with not bothering to switch. Their AP is still fine, but when the HE performs as well or better from any angle and without thinking about it, why bother. The Queen Elizabeth, Monarch, Warspite and Hood are the exceptions.
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Jan 19, 2018 18:51
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davejk posted:The HE is so ridiculous on most of the British tree that you can get away with not bothering to switch. Their AP is still fine, but when the HE performs as well or better from any angle and without thinking about it, why bother. Just as an aside, those exceptions davejk mentioned have AP with a short fuse/poor pen which is less effective on BBs but more likely to full pen cruisers and DDs.
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Jan 19, 2018 19:10
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For those of you trying to ignore the HSF campaign/collection for whatever reason, you really shouldn't. A large number of exp flags (10 per container), plus effectively 5,000 doubloons for a T10 premium camo are pretty valuable. For those not aware it had started, or were but haven't figured out the stupid way WG has implemented it, here are the steps to activate it: 1. Make sure you're actually logged in and go to the news page here: https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/everything-is-fine/ 2. Scroll down to the "I Want to Join" button and click it. 3. Get in the game and play a match(any mode) in one of the HSF ships, Musashi, or Yamato to actually unlock the stuff. I think needing step 3 is because WG bugged out something, so if you don't happen to have or want to pay for one of those premiums, hope you have a Yamato or they fix it fast.
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davejk posted:The HE is so ridiculous on most of the British tree that you can get away with not bothering to switch. Their AP is still fine, but when the HE performs as well or better from any angle and without thinking about it, why bother. Also Nelson Lord Koth posted:For those of you trying to ignore the HSF campaign/collection for whatever reason, you really shouldn't. A large number of exp flags (10 per container), plus effectively 5,000 doubloons for a T10 premium camo are pretty valuable. I don't have any HSF ships, and I've already started getting items from the collection
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Jan 19, 2018 19:45
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I waited too long and now Ranked is too full of poo poo to warrant continuing. You'd think battleships would know better than to push 3 smoked destroyers, but they do it anyways. I'm not sure which is worse, getting hosed over by random chance ( you've got a Lexington on your team, have fun with that ), or having to deal with problem boats like the Lo Yang every single game.
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Jan 19, 2018 20:24
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NTRabbit posted:Also Nelson Nelson isn't an exception - it actually has the same HE shells as Lion. Lord Koth posted:3. Get in the game and play a match(any mode) in one of the HSF ships, Musashi, or Yamato to actually unlock the stuff. The missions for Yamato/Musashi/HSF Spee/Harekaze are a bonus - they're not required to unlock the collection. What should happen is you sign up, play one game in anything, and receive a container that starts the collection. Then, you can go to Profile -> Collections -> HSF, enable collecting it with the button in the lower right, and get the rest from regular containers.
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I've just started playing my NA account; I created it to get all the free premium WOWP goodness. Also because at the times I play (I live in the UK) I find NA players are woeful compared to Euro players in most games (honestly, they aren't all bots). Is there a bonus code repository I should be checking? I'd be grateful for anything at this point 
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:I waited too long and now Ranked is too full of poo poo to warrant continuing. You'd think battleships would know better than to push 3 smoked destroyers, but they do it anyways. The Lo Yang isn't really a super problem boat, but you do need to have people who will shoot at it the moment it pops up. I definitely have learned my lesson this time. Rank our early as if you wait until the halfway point, you will have to continually deal with the sub 47% who will slowly drag your win rate down to utter poo poo with their constant failures. I ground out through the Shchors in 2 nights to the Chappy and tried it in ranked. It seems to be one of the best for at least being able to save your star when the idiot Kagero throws a match you otherwise won by opening fire on an enemy BB at 6KM. I imagine the LoYang is another decent boat for being able to play around your idiot teammates. HFX fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jan 19, 2018 |
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davejk posted:Nelson isn't an exception - it actually has the same HE shells as Lion. Nelson's AP is good enough to make it better than the HE when shooting at battleships, it's got tight dispersion and those 16" shells gently caress poo poo up at tier 7 NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jan 19, 2018 |
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NTRabbit posted:Nelson's AP is good enough to make it better than the HE when shooting at battleships, it's got tight dispersion and those 16" shells gently caress poo poo up at tier 7 I was just counting ships where you can get away with spamming HE, really. I'd still use AP on battleships in all of them under the right circumstances. This includes when people give you broadside because they think you're just going to keep spamming HE at them (which is surprisingly frequent).
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HFX posted:The Lo Yang isn't really a super problem boat, but you do need to have people who will shot at it the moment it pops up. I definitely have learned my lesson this time. Rank our early as if you wait until the halfway point, you will have to continually deal with the sub 47% who will slowly drag your win rate down to utter poo poo with their constant failures. Highlighted the problem. I made it to rank 4 a few times, then took a break for a few days for work, came back, and now it's just a sea of 47% overall BB players doing stupid rear end BB things. I get that I'm not the best ranked player, but I also generally land high up on my team. Every so often I potato out, but I pull my weight more often than not and still get hosed over. I dunno how Hammer managed to rank out with his Kutuzov because half the time I can't even get spots.
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HFX posted:The Lo Yang isn't really a super problem boat, but you do need to have people who will shoot at it the moment it pops up. The problem with the Lo Yang is that WG buffed it to be flat out better in every respect at the same gimmick that's supposed to be a "thing" for an entire DD line, along with everything else it has. There is no world where "has a sonar an entire km better than the equivalent tier German DD" makes sense from a balance perspective. Yes, outside of Ranked it's not such a huge problem in terms of power (it is still just a T8 DD, often uptiered to T10, after all), but that buff was utterly idiotic. Like, generally you can make some argument for virtually any ship, even subpar ones, for why you could play that one instead of something else - there's something at least somewhat different about it compared to its competition. Whereas there is absolutely no point to playing a Z-23 if you happen to own a Lo Yang.
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So, the Musashi is now out and according to at least trusted ship reviewer LittleWhiteMouse is actually extremely cool and a fun ship to play. I honestly don't know what to do, should I still get the Missouri or jump straight for the Musashi? Is the Missouri fun to play?
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Der Shovel posted:So, the Musashi is now out and according to at least trusted ship reviewer LittleWhiteMouse is actually extremely cool and a fun ship to play. If you're going to get the free-XP premiums, you should be going Missouri > Nelson > Musashi. Missouri is going away soon, and prints credits like nothing else. Nelson is unique, and a strong ship for its tier when played correctly. Musashi is just a slightly nerfed Yamato that sometimes benefits from extremely unfair matchmaking.
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davejk posted:Missouri is going away soon, and prints credits like nothing else. But is it fun to play?
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It’s an Iowa with radar, I enjoy it.
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Der Shovel posted:But is it fun to play? Do you like high tier American BB play? If yes, yes. If no, no.
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It is all about positioning, using your stealth to ambush people, and knowing when to use your radar and when not to.
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xanif posted:Do you like high tier American BB play? Well I do quite like my Alabama, which is the highest tier American BB play I've experienced.
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Der Shovel posted:But is it fun to play? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i0gSGgaWJk ElMaligno fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Der Shovel posted:Well I do quite like my Alabama, which is the highest tier American BB play I've experienced.
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Today in botes: Thats a pretty nice start to a day      sigh.
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Der Shovel posted:But is it fun to play? I just got it and am having fun. So yes?
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I don't know how but I'm waaay better at the Missouri than I am with the Iowa.
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All of my stats in the Missouri are significantly better than my Iowa stats, but my win rate with it is absolutely trash. Starting to think I finally found my cursed ship.
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CitizenKain posted:I mean, they aren't wrong exactly, that is just a mindblowingly stupid reason though. littlewhitemouse.txt
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General win rate of Missouri is somewhere around 54% while of Iowa is around 48%. Sort of make sense because while you can fail upwards to Iowa to fail upward to Missouri is at the least much more time consuming.Tathris posted:All of my stats in the Missouri are significantly better than my Iowa stats, but my win rate with it is absolutely trash. Starting to think I finally found my cursed ship.
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I imagine if your WR is crap but your stats are decent that you might not be taking advantage of the radar to properly gently caress up DDs early-game, a well-positioned Missouri can effectively end a push on one or more caps.
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Ice Fist posted:So it's been a while: what's the deal with UK BB's? Should I always be using HE? Is it situational? Yeah you can basically use HE almost exclusively. But if you run into Admiral Tunnelvision, or somebody beached, or is stuck broadside driving through a torp salvo go ahead and load AP for the next shot. At the lower tiers you can get citadels against the old thinly armored cruisers from the 20s and 30s, and at higher tiers, ships like the Neptune/Kutuzov can eat them too. The Monarch arguably has the worst HE shells in the line so I tended to use AP more than the other ships. Cruisers trying to torp rush me was usually the only time I went AP in some of the other ships. Anyone else remember the original version of hotspot? Where it split your team into two in opposite corners of the map?
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Lakedaimon posted:Anyone else remember the original version of hotspot? Where it split your team into two in opposite corners of the map? Yes. 
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Der Shovel posted:But is it fun to play?   I have games where I potato and do 20-50k, usually because I try to use my radar to push caps and get too optimistic about my teammates supporting me. But I also had a brawl with two Iowas in a cyclone and won so. It is a very good boat with decent armor, AAA, and accurate guns. The radar goes a long way towards dealing with destroyers and other annoying things. Like I am a solidly mediocre tier 8/9/10 BB driver ( not enough experience ) and I enjoy it.
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