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A. Beaverhausen posted:Nope, not messing. 8 was my first Final Fantasy so I have an attachment to it's summons I guess lol. I need to learn more of my Final Fantasy pre 8. I’ve still never played VI or V. I guess this is a good time to start
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VI is really really good especially considering the massive limitations they had to make the game fit on an snes cart. It can be glitched like a motherfucker as a result, but is tied with FFT as my favorite final fantasies.
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The SNES games can be a little difficult for "younger" (by which I mean folks in their 20s these days) (gently caress im old) players to appreciate these days because you have to keep in mind the context of their releases, and if you aren't literally living in 1991-1994 it can be a lot harder to do that. VI is still pretty cool, but in 1994 it was doing things people were a little unsure videogames could even do. The final boss having a fifteen-minute long four-piece suite as his theme (and yes, that's the typical time on the soundtrack; with a standard double loop for each piece, Dancing Mad comes out to just north of 16 minutes when played front to back) was unheard of and would've previously been seen as an extravagant waste of cart space and perhaps even composer time, but The Gooch & Uematsu did it anyway. It really was borderline revelatory at the time, and I can't fault people for not seeing how it was such now. Anyway I just spent the better part of two hours marking out to the trailer and whatnot so roll on Jan. 30th, I'll be in a coma until then
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Jan 19, 2018 20:54
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I think i have the gba version of vi lying around; is that a good version or does it really need to be played on the snes version to appreciate it?
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Jan 19, 2018 21:00
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Ainsley McTree posted:I’ve still never played VI or V. I guess this is a good time to start Both very good games. I played VI before, but I recently got both on Steam. V is pretty cool and gives you Blue Mage at the beginning of the game.
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Jan 19, 2018 21:01
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I just realized, in order to do suplexing the phantom train justice, I need to get MNK from 60 to 70 before 4.2 hits. =E
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Turns out, Nidhogg Ex is still kinda difficult even with a party of unsync'd 70s. We wiped 4 times on it. Only when the PLD MT had 60k helath and the rest of the group was all >40k health did we finally manage to kill him. I just wanted a sticker 
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Jan 19, 2018 21:02
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Ainsley McTree posted:I think i have the gba version of vi lying around; is that a good version or does it really need to be played on the snes version to appreciate it? The GBA version has some roughness in the port, some extra bugs introduced, worse sound because of gba hardware, and the advance ports usually have some atb lag, but it does have some extra content and fixed some other bugs, such as magic evasion determining all your evasion instead of being split into two stats It’s up to you to decide if you would prefer it portable or not
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Jan 19, 2018 21:04
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RME posted:The GBA version has some roughness in the port, some extra bugs introduced, worse sound because of gba hardware, and the advance ports usually have some atb lag, but it does have some extra content and fixed some other bugs, such as magic evasion determining all your evasion instead of being split into two stats Since the soundtrack is such a draw, it seems like a sin to compromise on that
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Jan 19, 2018 21:06
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HenryEx posted:Turns out, Nidhogg Ex is still kinda difficult even with a party of unsync'd 70s. You need a party that understands the fight, for sure. Once you get one, you can do things like skip Phase 1 Cauterize, destroy the Fang on the first stack, and reduce Nidhogg to 1% before he shifts to his final phase.
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Jan 19, 2018 21:07
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Ainsley McTree posted:I think i have the gba version of vi lying around; is that a good version or does it really need to be played on the snes version to appreciate it? It has a cleaned up version of the script (the SNES version isn't bad but it suffers a bit from cart size and Square of the time constantly giving poor Ted Woolsey impossible deadlines) and adds some of the bonus content they wanted in the SNES version but the audio is notably inferior. I kind of want to say play the SNES version as that's the version that made people first fall in love with it (and really, you want to play it on a TV) but it's up to you and the GBA version does have advantages. (The mobile version should be avoided at all costs however.)
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Jan 19, 2018 21:07
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So, do monks get anything? Like at all?
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Jan 19, 2018 21:12
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Mazed posted:So, do monks get anything? Like at all? MNK: Riddle of Wind can grant GL stack(s), Brotherhood's damage increase effect now affects the casting MNK, Mantra & Perfect Balance recast times are reduced.
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Jan 19, 2018 21:19
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The first steps on the road to making tornado kick not garbage.
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Did he talk about these changes in the video or is there a site where this stuff is written down?
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I mean emulating the snes version of vi is a thing, if you want to go down that route
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Vermain posted:Near as I can tell, it's actually a sprite of the final boss of Great Gubal Library. Well that explains why I didn't recognize it as a FF6 at all.
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Jan 19, 2018 21:25
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There's also a patch for the GBA version's ROM that adds SNES BGM and SFX.
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Jan 19, 2018 21:26
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A. Beaverhausen posted:I mean emulating the snes version of vi is a thing, if you want to go down that route Sir, I am a man of integrity. How dare you (I’m going to do that)
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Jan 19, 2018 21:29
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I think the SNES classic version of VI is the original 1.0 release down to the sketch glitch. ...If you can find an SNES classic.
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I think in terms of early gen games FFVI holds up extremely well. Great music, great ensemble cast, the battle system is pretty indistinguishable from VII except no limit breaks (kinda... they exist but you'll probably never see them). It was an extremely ambitious game for the SNES and it was pulled off really well.
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Jan 19, 2018 21:40
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A. Beaverhausen posted:So the BLM changes are upping potency, proc time, and making aetherial manipulation a 10s cooldown? I remember someone also saying transpose is on an 8sec CD, which would be nice as well.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:I'm hoping you can still easily make money selling 5 stacks when people go 999 for no reason They're adding 6 seconds to Thundercloud and Firestarter, lowering Transpose cooldown to 8 seconds, lowering AM cooldown to 10 seconds and "raising the potency of Fire 4". Since BLM's problem is damage output everything just boils down to how big the Fire 4 potency buff is. (The Thundercloud thing helps with damage some in a weird way but it won't be enough on its own)
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I thought BLM's issue was more with how tight the timing on your rotation is (whoops you had to move just then, back to the 2.0 rotation for the next 30 seconds) and less about your training dummy damage output.
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https://twitter.com/bey0ndtheearth/status/954427999302144001 ...I feel like I should've seen this one coming.
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SL the Pyro posted:https://twitter.com/bey0ndtheearth/status/954427999302144001 But they're gonna be 375?
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Decided to craft some of the top CRP rowena turn ins, since they were starred and relatively cheap. I even leveled up during the crafting, yay! Went back to turn them in - now the craft isn't starred anymore, 'cause my level up added the next level of turn-ins to the list, which are now starred instead. FUUUUUUCK 
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Now they just have to reveal that the sigmascape armor drops are the missing FFVI cosplay outfits (dragoon gets nothing since there is already a moogle suit).HenryEx posted:Decided to craft some of the top CRP rowena turn ins, since they were starred and relatively cheap. 
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Thundarr posted:I thought BLM's issue was more with how tight the timing on your rotation is (whoops you had to move just then, back to the 2.0 rotation for the next 30 seconds) and less about your training dummy damage output. That's part of it (though dropping Enochian really means you are just losing foul procs unless you are losing it in less than 30 seconds) but a bigger part is that BLM dummy DPS is really bad for a class with zero raid support.
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If that's the case then hopefully Fire IV goes up by more than 10 potency.
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Thundarr posted:I thought BLM's issue was more with how tight the timing on your rotation is (whoops you had to move just then, back to the 2.0 rotation for the next 30 seconds) and less about your training dummy damage output. No it's not that because really good BLMs are getting 98%+ uptime in all fights and they're still doing less DPS than Summoners. This isn't even getting into the part where DRG/SMN/BRD/MCH/NIN can all buff each other's damage and the raid's damage while BLM doesn't do this. It's literally would you rather bring a class that does 5000 DPS and buffs the other classes by 100 DPS or would you bring a class that does 4800 DPS and doesn't buff anyone.
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Jose Valasquez posted:I think in terms of early gen games FFVI holds up extremely well. Great music, great ensemble cast, the battle system is pretty indistinguishable from VII except no limit breaks (kinda... they exist but you'll probably never see them). It was an extremely ambitious game for the SNES and it was pulled off really well. There's also a romhack called Brave New World that completely redoes a lot of the game's guts that I want to get around to playing someday.
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Wait is Summoner great now? I haven't played or looked at this thread in a few months so I'm out of the loop. What of Machinist? Did they nerf Samurai?
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Blockhouse posted:Wait is Summoner great now? I haven't played or looked at this thread in a few months so I'm out of the loop. Summoner is boss, I think they hate MCH
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Summoner is very strong and also fun to play now. I hated it so much in HW I didn’t even think to check it out in SB but they really fixed it up
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FFVI BNW is supposed to be alright in terms of gameplay, but they saw fit to redo the dialogue to include gratuitous fuckwords and memes, which is very much not alright. If someone took it and just put the Woolsey script back in, it might be worth it. Altogether, FFVI has aged about as gracefully as it's possible for a 16-bit game to age. It's one, alongside the likes of Chrono Trigger and Seiken Densetsu 3, which demonstrated artistic mastery of a limited sprite-based medium, pushing such hardware about as far as it could go and possessing a real sense of style. SpaceDrake posted:MNK: Riddle of Wind can grant GL stack(s), Brotherhood's damage increase effect now affects the casting MNK, Mantra & Perfect Balance recast times are reduced. Well hey. Maybe they realize RoF feels terrible and are trying to sweeten it by giving us a shiny GL distraction prior to popping it.
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Die Sexmonster! posted:This is why I’m still convinced Omegascape will be FFVII-themed. Whenever they get around to adding Sephiroth, I would love to see them split it into two parts and have the half everyone remembers be Savage only  .
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You know, i always kind of dreaded the instanced solo battles. They were pretty much universally boring, sometimes arbitrarily difficult, and mostly poorly communicated. Who has time to watch for floating text? They sucked, pretty much all of them in ARR. The first one i was kind of impressed and had fun with was the grand company battle with the fight against Raubahn. A slight inprovement in HW, though most of them still sucked. But man, the quota of Raubahn vs. Boring shifted pretty hard in SB. Most battles are fun and impressive, and even if they aren't (or are not battles), they are at least interesting. The Naadam owns bones, so did the first Zenos fight (and the second was only slightly worse).
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