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Oct 31, 2012

Fuego Fish posted:

He can literally read minds, he can know their name and everything else necessary to get them doubting their own memories and filling in the blanks automatically.

"I'm Frannie's cousin. We talked at the backyard barbecue? When Sam came back from Afghanistan? I gave you those paper towels when you got root beer on your shirt?"

"Oh sure, sure, I remember you!" One black-haired kid looks a lot like another, especially when it's been two years since that barbecue happened. Who else is going to come up to you with that sort of information except someone who was actually there?

You could write an entire story around the idea of a guy using the power of telepathy to work his ways up from the streets to being CEO of his own corporation that he runs from the shadows. Instead we have gotten a couple months worth of shoe-horning in as much exposition as possible and it's so boring.

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A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

pospysyl posted:

An all time great webcomic line. Some notes:

I like how he used the politically correct phrase "sex worker". Seems like something a remorseless psychopath would do. He'll rob, cheat, and steal your identity, but he would never disrespect a noble sex worker.

That actually brings up something weird. Why didn't he have sex with any of the sex workers? Mulligan wants to treat sex workers with respect, but he doesn't actually want to portray a major character as having had sex with one. Maybe he's trying to portray virginity as morally deviant, but it just seems like a weird aversion to sex.

I also like how Patrick brought up the sex workers when it had nothing to do with anything else he was saying. He just really wanted his ex-girlfriend to know that he hired prostitutes for touch therapy. I think this is a winning relationship move.

The noble sex worker is, of of course, always down for some weird poo poo with any old crying ten year old who slips em a $20, this goes without saying. That's just how life is, on Da Streetz

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
This reads like a rough outline of cool ideas that a competent writer could have fun with. Instead its all rote exposition presented in a toxic green haze. Bad.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Nuebot posted:

Just shake hands with someone? Be like "Hey, ol' Billy I know you from the school thing we went to!" Sure they'll be confused, because they're not Billy. But you can shake their hand and drink in that sweet, sweet human contact you need to survive and vanish before they realize you're a weird homeless stock market child.

or "I used my psychic powers to glom onto lonely old people whose dead kids looked just like me", or "I started religiously attending comic-cons looking for the guy with the Glomp Me sign" or basically anything, there's loads of lonely alienated people out there and loads of ways they actually do get their RDV of human interaction without making any friends or socializing normally, but Mulligan thinks they're all exactly as plausible as hookers having as much agency and inner life as a vending machine

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Jan 19, 2018

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I don't think Patrick's choices are actually being portrayed as healthy ones here.

He didn't hire a masseuse because a masseuse would probably have questions about why he wanted people's hands all over him and thought he wanted a sex worker. He didn't sleep with the sex worker because he is trying to be someone who is a Hard Man Living In A Cold World and masturbation is safer.

(Note that these choices also mean he didn't have to do anything that would involve establishing an emotional relationship. He could just as easily have joined a sports team or something, but that would have meant exposing himself to the human disease called friendship.)

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

Flesh Forge posted:

If you start getting sick because no one has touched you in years, you can hire sex workers to come and rub your back.

I read the comments about the comic before I read the comic itself. I would have bet cash money that this quote was just some hyperbolic exaggeration about some dumb thing the author wrote.

Turns out he actually said that! Yeesh.

Flesh Forge posted:

They met before she was in college, when she was like 16 and still doing superhero stuff. I think Patrick is a few years older iirc. I don't think he ever hung around her college, not that I remember.
All the people with powers are the same age I think. Like, they were all conceived or born during a freakish month long storm or something.

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



Rand Brittain posted:

I don't think Patrick's choices are actually being portrayed as healthy ones here.

He didn't hire a masseuse because a masseuse would probably have questions about why he wanted people's hands all over him and thought he wanted a sex worker. He didn't sleep with the sex worker because he is trying to be someone who is a Hard Man Living In A Cold World and masturbation is safer.

(Note that these choices also mean he didn't have to do anything that would involve establishing an emotional relationship. He could just as easily have joined a sports team or something, but that would have meant exposing himself to the human disease called friendship.)

Well, obviously. Patrick's messed up from a life of cruelty. The sex workers are included to make his story a little more gritty and salacious, but Patrick's not a real person. We can spend all day imagining different reasons why he would or would not have sex with a sex worker. I, for instance, could counter your argument that he's afraid of catching a disease by saying he could read the sex worker's mind to see if she was clean or not.

The reason why it's ridiculous isn't because it's internally inconsistent or whatever, it's because Mulligan's trying to tell a salacious, gritty, provocative story, but he's such a loving prude that he can't even imply that one of his characters had consensual sex with a sex worker.

Also, from today's New York Times:

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
It is NOT the time. Shut up!

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Galvanik posted:

All the people with powers are the same age I think. Like, they were all conceived or born during a freakish month long storm or something.

Yeah I'm pretty sure he's the notable exception, I'd have to dig around in older pages to find where that was exposited but uhhh

e: Also Patrick has perfect recall and in theory, full access to the memories of every person he's ever been near, tbh if he had sex with his own body it'd probably not measure up to some of the choice stuff in his memory so why bother, just play back those full sensory 5 star full sensory brain porntubes

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jan 19, 2018

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Oct 31, 2012
Patrick is the same age as the rest, it's just that he was in the minority of kids who manifested at an earlier age than the rest.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

or "I used my psychic powers to glom onto lonely old people whose dead kids looked just like me", or "I started religiously attending comic-cons looking for the guy with the Glomp Me sign" or basically anything, there's loads of lonely alienated people out there and loads of ways they actually do get their RDV of human interaction without making any friends or socializing normally, but Mulligan thinks they're all exactly as plausible as hookers having as much agency and inner life as a vending machine

You know, that first one would actually be an interesting idea for a character. Just some weird parasitic creep who goes from house to house pretending to be relatives of sad, lonely people.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

They probably could have done some semi-interesting with this. A dumb horny teenage runaway with lots of money and poor social skills wants to get his dick wet so he hires a pro, but then he looks into her mind and sees all the poo poo she's been through and decides not to. That's at least more believable than "I get sick when I don't get my touches".

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

Fister Roboto posted:

They probably could have done some semi-interesting with this. A dumb horny teenage runaway with lots of money and poor social skills wants to get his dick wet so he hires a pro, but then he looks into her mind and sees all the poo poo she's been through and decides not to. That's at least more believable than "I get sick when I don't get my touches".

the comic is pulling its punches so hard it hits its own self in the face

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > Strong Female Protagonist: If you start getting sick because no one has touched you in years, you can hire sex workers to come and rub your back.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > Strong Female Protagonist: If you start getting sick because no one has touched you in years, you can hire sex workers to come and rub your back.

as with this comic, it needs a good edit

...Strong Female Protagonist: hire sex workers to come and rub your back

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
You can't take away from the majesty of that single, perfect webcomic sentence.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

I love that this comic keeps finding ways to get dumber.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
He's starved for human touch? (we'll set aside how really, really out of nowhere that expression of need is)

He could get a haircut.

Emrikol
Oct 1, 2015
It's gotta suck when you long for physical intimacy, but struggle to remember which body is yours.

Falstaff
Apr 27, 2008

I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

Emrikol posted:

It's gotta suck when you long for physical intimacy, but struggle to remember which body is yours.

That would be a great bit of monologue. Way too good for this comic.

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Oct 31, 2012

Emrikol posted:

It's gotta suck when you long for physical intimacy, but struggle to remember which body is yours.

It's weird how the comic is now forgetting that Patrick did voice that he had issues with his own identity. Isn't that the same conversation where we got the line about him not being able to read his own mind?

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
No that was more recently when he first changed out of his booze soaked clothes.

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

Flesh Forge posted:

If you start getting sick because no one has touched you in years, you can hire sex workers to come and rub your back.

o jerusalem
Jan 21, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
i love this comic

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Welcome back :ohdear:

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

o jerusalem posted:

i love this comic

i love you :)

o jerusalem
Jan 21, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
imo mulligan tells all his girlfriends that he will wither up and literally die if he doesn't get his weekly ration of touchies, and if a few days pass without a cursory handjob he starts babbling and swooning about like a gothic heroine struck down by consumption

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Look, if it works, it works.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

o jerusalem posted:

imo mulligan tells all his girlfriends that he will wither up and literally die if he doesn't get his weekly ration of touchies, and if a few days pass without a cursory handjob he starts babbling and swooning about like a gothic heroine struck down by consumption

livin the life

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Paladinus posted:

Look, if it works, it works.

And if it doesn't work, you can hire a sex worker

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
:jerkbag: :jerkbag: :jerkbag: :jerkbag: :jerkbag: :jerkbag:



all the philosophy 101 level rubbish that got months and months and dozens of pages of devoted to it, and Menace's backstory is a single page of bland, vague bullshit

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
also, cankles omfg

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?
These people in a vulnerable position needed me. So I, with the billions of dollars available to me, decided to exploit their powers to turn them into supervillain minions, because I was just so used to crime.

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
"An early life of crime led me to become a super villain." Read Strong Female Protagonist, the fresh new take on cape comics!

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
I like jaggedy man's little smile.
e: NOT a fan of the bully from Arthur. I have no opinions on the witch.

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
Wait, there were government tests done on him, his parents knew he was some kind of Damien child, he seems to have kept his name: how in the actual hell was he working without anyone knowing who he was until Allison unmasked him?

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

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