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jivjov posted:New force powers get introduced in almost every movie In III, Anakin uses the force to quadruple his flip power... or so he thinks.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:The familiar status quo of The leader of the bad guys being an emotionally volatile idiot, rather than an arrogant, calculating mastermind, and the good guys being reduced to the people inhabiting a single ship, with no additional organization or infrastructure? That status quo? You're describing Amidala vs the Trade Federation.
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Jan 20, 2018 20:07
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Can someone post the scene in episode 1 where they go fast with the Force, because that sounds awesome.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Can someone post the scene in episode 1 where they go fast with the Force, because that sounds awesome. It's the very beginning when Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are on the ship getting attacked. They send the droids that roll after them and when they can't beat them because of their shields they run away like The Flash because it's a terrible script.
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Jan 20, 2018 20:20
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s.i.r.e. posted:It's the very beginning when Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are on the ship getting attacked. They send the droids that roll after them and when they can't beat them because of their shields they run away like The Flash because it's a terrible script. What's bad about the script? Do you have examples of a good script?
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Jan 20, 2018 20:25
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jivjov posted:New force powers get introduced in almost every movie The high ground.
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Jan 20, 2018 20:31
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s.i.r.e. posted:It's the very beginning when Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are on the ship getting attacked. They send the droids that roll after them and when they can't beat them because of their shields they run away like The Flash because it's a terrible script. Why is that in particular bad script writing? When they did that zoom off thing I was like "whoa that was cool". Is it bad script because they don't proceed to do it all the time after that? Cause you could say that about basically all the force powers in every movie
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Jan 20, 2018 20:41
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Why is that in particular bad script writing? When they did that zoom off thing I was like "whoa that was cool". Is it bad script because they don't proceed to do it all the time after that? Cause you could say that about basically all the force powers in every movie It's a little contrived they don't rip the Droidekas apart with Force TK. "It's a stand-off!" Sure, Liam.
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Jan 20, 2018 20:50
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porfiria posted:It's a little contrived they don't rip the Droidekas apart with Force TK. "It's a stand-off!" Sure, Liam. I dunno they're taking heavy fire and force tk almost always(apart from Vader in ESB) is shown to have a heavy somatic component that would leave them open to gunfire. Hard to deflect lasers and concentrate on tk with an arm held out at the same time.
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Jan 20, 2018 20:52
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Leave the poor Droidekas alone.
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Jan 20, 2018 21:01
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i think its really bad writing that these characters dont use magic powers to solve everything instantly
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Jan 20, 2018 21:06
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cuntman.net posted:i think its really bad writing that these characters dont use magic powers to solve everything instantly Luke Skywalker and the methods of force rationality
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Jan 20, 2018 21:26
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jivjov posted:New force powers get introduced in almost every movie III: Sheev spin and force shout combo
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Jan 20, 2018 21:43
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AdjectiveNoun posted:The familiar status quo of The leader of the bad guys being an emotionally volatile idiot, rather than an arrogant, calculating mastermind, and the good guys being reduced to the people inhabiting a single ship, with no additional organization or infrastructure? That status quo? That's about the state of things circa ESB, although the original Rebellion seemed to still have a few more assets to its name, yes. Zoran fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Jan 20, 2018 22:32
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Neo Rasa posted:The high ground. III: Greater Disarm
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Jan 20, 2018 22:48
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All Force powers have logical explanations congruent with causal physics. Force Persuasion (A New Hope) Ben Kenobi uses subtle social engineering strategies (negging) on low self esteem stormtroopers. Force Choke (A New Hope) Vader knows Admiral Motti has a severe peanut allergy and lines his gloves with peanut shavings. Force Leap (Empire Strikes Back) Lando's nephews were playing on a trampoline inside the Carbonite chamber moments before Luke and Vader arrived. Force Telekensis (Empire Strikes Back) Vader coerced Lando into installing tiny anti-gravity units in various boxes and crates by threatening to take away his nephews' trampoline. Force Lightning (Return of the Jedi) Collective delusion akin to Christian Pentacostal speaking in tongues, etc. An "objective" view of the scene would have shown Luke writhing in pain for no reason and the Emperor going "Vvvvvvvvvvvv" with his lips.
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Jan 20, 2018 23:02
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III kinda builds on Ghosting/One with the Forcing
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Jan 20, 2018 23:10
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Kylo Ren force negs Rey to escalate keno once outside the set.
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Jan 20, 2018 23:27
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Then he goes for the fclose. (force close)
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Jan 20, 2018 23:28
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Zoran posted:That's about the state of things circa ESB, although the original Rebellion seemed to still have a few more assets to its name, yes. That's kind of a big difference, though. By the end of ESB the Rebels still had enough resources that in RotJ they were able to mount a last ditch assault on the Death Star II, and a huge space battle broke out. As of Episode IX the Resistance doesn't have two X-wings to rub together. That changes the scale.
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Jan 21, 2018 20:29
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In the opening scene of episode 9 they warp to the x-wing factory and start stealing poo poo
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Jan 21, 2018 20:51
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We know they've still got a lot of hypothetical allies around who were just too scared or busy or something to answer their distress signal. The characters are just one scene of a rousing speech away from having all the x-wings they need.
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Jan 21, 2018 20:56
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I assumed that the Resistance people we were following in TLJ were just the last ones off their base planet and Greg Grunberg et al. had left ahead of them to regroup somewhere else. That's the impression I got from the start of the movie; that Leia's cruiser was the last one to leave. Perhaps I am assuming or inferring too much, though.
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Jan 21, 2018 20:56
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They were pretty explicit that the Resistance as an organization now fits entirely aboard the Millennium Falcon.
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Maxwell Lord posted:two X-wings to rub together ...I'll be in my bunk
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Bongo Bill posted:They were pretty explicit that the Resistance as an organization now fits entirely aboard the Millennium Falcon. If RotJ is any indication, their best plan is to send in an army of porgs with a team of about 4-5 people, and then send Rey to talk to Ren.
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Jan 21, 2018 21:43
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preemptively pouring a shot out for all the porgs giving their lives to get the death star 4 plans
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Jan 21, 2018 22:10
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Maxwell Lord posted:That's kind of a big difference, though. By the end of ESB the Rebels still had enough resources that in RotJ they were able to mount a last ditch assault on the Death Star II, and a huge space battle broke out. As of Episode IX the Resistance doesn't have two X-wings to rub together. That changes the scale. My understanding was that we only ever see a fraction of the the Rebellion (and, for that matter, the Empire) in ESB. Vader and his soldiers don't attack Hoth because it's the singular Rebel base but because out of the many Rebel bases, this one has his son. Later, Leia and Han aren't on the run from the entire Imperial fleet but Vader's fleet, specifically. This is in contrast to ANH. Rather than a story where a single plucky recruit is able to land a lucky shot that sets back the entire Imperial war machine, it's a story where the tribulations and struggles of the heroes are ultimately a very small thing in a far larger conflict. Here, the fantasy that a single person could make a meaningful difference in the war is either a temptation to be resisted or a notion too radical to accept. TLJ is far more like ANH than ESB in this respect, and the conflict is actually quite small, comparatively. Nearly the entirety of the First Order and Resistance ships are at play, and single people can and do have meaningful effects. At the same time, the war is much less important than in either of the other films. The whole of Canto Bright, as well as Luke and Maz (through her actions) all suggest that the conflict is mostly inconsequential, and that a victory by any side wouldn't accomplish much. Which is to say, without Palpatine's interference, the dynamics of the universe has metastasized into an endless Clone War. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jan 21, 2018 |
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Jan 21, 2018 22:44
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Zoran posted:It's bad because it preaches about getting over the past and moving on to something new but actually just resets everything to a familiar status quo. I think it's possibly instructive that the bad guy says "Kill the past" and everything about the film at that point tells you not to trust this opinion, down to moody lighting and music. Then at the big climactic moment of the film Luke says to the bad guy he'll always be with him anyway.
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Whatever happened to Palpatine's red guards at the end of RotJ? I guess he sent them out of the room when Luke arrived, but surely they didn't go far. I guess they weren't as dedicated to their boss as Snoke's guards.
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porfiria posted:All Force powers have logical explanations congruent with causal physics.
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s.i.r.e. posted:It's the very beginning when Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are on the ship getting attacked. They send the droids that roll after them and when they can't beat them because of their shields they run away like The Flash because it's a terrible script. I don't remember that but I hope when a Jedi goes fast they walk casually but each step is several yards long like Zuo Ci
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The Last Jedi was a bad movie Ugh, you haven't gotten tired of posting here yet?
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cuntman.net posted:preemptively pouring a shot out for all the porgs giving their lives to get the death star 4 plans *diet coke spit take* They built ANOTHER Death Star?!
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Jan 22, 2018 04:47
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Yaws posted:The Last Jedi was a bad movie They're talking about that in the other thread. This thread is for Lucas Star Wars.
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nvm
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Jan 22, 2018 04:49
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nvm
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e: well then
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Hodgepodge posted:e: well then Well then what?
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