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There was a graphic gay sex scene with the second devilman, so yeah Ryo x Akira were definitely not the only bi/gay people in this show.
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ninjewtsu posted:even if that point wasn't loving stupid, i literally just quoted you saying "The only same sex relationship with romantic undertones is Akira and Ryo's" in the post you are responding to. i don't understand if you're willfully ignoring half my posts or what. I never said that the theory two characters have non-platonic feelings is dumb, or the opposite. Thinking that it's dumb to have a non-sexual reading is supported by the text, and that's why multiple interpretations are valid. If people get mad about that, it's most likely because they feel that they can't identify with a character unless they are gay, straight, or bi. Doing so misses the entire point of Devilman. There is no reason to get mad about any of this. I have never denied the validity of alternate readings, I've affirmed them over and over again.
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RME posted:you have a lot of things to say about what you've never said That's because it's all related to Devilman. e: I just noticed that at the beginning of the show, during the age of demons, the Earth has no moon. The moon formed from a debris ring left by the angels. Something else to consider about the time loop. Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jan 21, 2018 |
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So back when I was 17 or 18, I got all five volumes of the bilingual editions of the Devilman manga from some international online bookstore. As a teenage boy that just finally figured out that they were ~*~bisexual~*~ and had a lot of confused feelings about it due to growing up in a super conservative Christian home, I really appreciated Devilman because I could relate to Akira for being a confused teenager that turned into a monster and was romantically interested in both a girl (Miki) and a boy (Ryo). It's been over a decade since I've read it (since when I went off to college my mom found them and threw them out lol) so I don't know how much of that is actual text/subtext and how much is stuff I read into it, but it did help me sort out a lot of my feelings and made me more comfortable accepting being bi. And I really appreciate that crybaby is even gayer than the manga (and I'm including Miko/Miki in that, sorry if that gaslights anyone), and hope that it helps out any queer kids watching it on Netflix nowadays in a similar way. Anyway, that's my story about Devilman and being gay, thanks for listening. If anybody has a similar story about Devilman or some other show please share it and maybe the thread will be better.
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I just read a lot of posts since yesterday and to catch up, yes that's Louisa Ferre from SMT:SJ, Miki and Miko are together in two moon world, and whoever recommended Re: Cutie Honey and those that supported this are good people and I appreciate you all.
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Endorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his
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Endorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his
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the acid breastmilk devilman really has it rough
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Endorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his
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Endorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his
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Don't gaslight meEndorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his
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Endorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his yes, which is kind of hilarious considering he was throwing around gaslighting accusations earlier but please god can we talk about anything else
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let's talk about how the best go nagai reboot adaptation is shin jeeg
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Cutie Honey looks fun, maybe someday I will give it a spin
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shin jeeg is good, but shin mazinger is better imho. if i had crazy billionaire money, i'd pay imagawa to do a three hour remake of Mazinger Z vs. Devilman.
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Compendium posted:Cutie Honey looks fun, maybe someday I will give it a spin Re:Cutie Honey ftw
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Compendium posted:Cutie Honey looks fun, maybe someday I will give it a spin re:cutie honey is one of the best ovas ever made you can, uh, skip most other cutie honey things
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Davincie posted:*Dororon Enma-kun* I guess I'm going to read the manga because the only anime I can find is from the 70s and has 1 seed.
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Endorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his
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Compendium posted:Cutie Honey looks fun, maybe someday I will give it a spin Calvin Coolposts posted:shin jeeg is good, but shin mazinger is better imho. if i had crazy billionaire money, i'd pay imagawa to do a three hour remake of Mazinger Z vs. Devilman. if i were wishing i'd want a shin grendizer.
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Endorph posted:re:cutie honey is really good but id never recommend the original manga unless you want a manga written by a guy who's intensely weird about... lesbians... Judging by the other goon's reactions about Devilman Lady, Nagai being weird about lesbians sure is a thing huh
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I felt like Shin Mazinger got really bogged down with too many characters, too much narrating and exposition and so on, and I don't think the anti-climax it ends on really works. It's a shame because on paper I like a lot of what its going for, but not so much in execution. It's been fun in SRW though.
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yeah the original cutie honey manga is just, really gross and pervy in a bad way and doesn't have much of a point to end on since it doesn't have an actual ending. the anime is slightly better but it still literally incinerates honey's girlfriend halfway through and doesn't have an ending, shin cutie honey is sort of a direct sequel and it's significantly better than both but again, no ending re:cutie honey is just a really awesome story about a police woman's relationship with honey that portrays them both as mega badasses who don't need to rely on each other to be awesome but kick extra tons of rear end when they do, and actually uses its goofy fanservice and nudity in an interesting way narratively that i really appreciate on top of liking boobs and butts
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I really liked the stuff with Zeus and the weird first episode and the narration, but I really like Imagawa and shin mazinger was basically Imagawa just going apeshit with his own style so I get how it wouldn't work for everybody. the cliffhanger/anti-climax end was kind of a bummer, though. agreed about shin jeeg, though, plus I dug how it was more of a sequel than a remake. also, i'm about halfway through the first volume of devilman lady and goddam go nagai is just the horniest motherfucker alive, isn't he? not sure I'm gonna finish it.
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I'm a horny straight guy and I just get bored every time I tried to read the original cutie honey. Re:Cutie Honey otoh is a blast all the way through
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Yo if I wanted to experience the original Jeeg before Shin Jeeg, do I watch the anime or read the manga?
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Re: Cutie Honey owns, is the live action movie that came out around the same time any good?
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The Colonel posted:go nagai constantly had a raging boner and nobody could really tell him to stop telling him to stop actually made it worse since when the PTA started getting mad at him he cranked it the gently caress up
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Raxivace posted:Yo if I wanted to experience the original Jeeg before Shin Jeeg, do I watch the anime or read the manga?
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dogsicle posted:the acid breastmilk devilman really has it rough Liver Disaster posted:I just read a lot of posts since yesterday and to catch up, yes that's Louisa Ferre from SMT:SJ, Miki and Miko are together in two moon world, and whoever recommended Re: Cutie Honey and those that supported this are good people and I appreciate you all. Huh hey Miko did not realize you cameoed there.
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Endorph posted:quote this post if you think the russian dog man is denying the validity of readings different from his
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Endorph posted:id read the manga if you can get a hold of it, its only ten chapters compared to the old tv anime being stretched out to 46 episodes. otoh im pretty sure shin jeeg references a few things that are only in the old anime, but on the other other hand do you really wanna watch 46 episodes of a 70s robot show.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Thats Miko Re: Cutie Comiket is pretty packed!
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ninjewtsu posted:has imagawa done anything recent
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Huh just found out that this Demon was the one who attacked Miko and Kukun at the Sabbath. She was initially in her human guise from Devilman G.  In the original Manga she worked with Jinmen for a bit.
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