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The guys you don't want on large mounts are the ones who are vulnerable to shooting. Volkmar will do fine but a wizard or assassin type one a large mount can get killed real fast with a big hit box.
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Arglebargle III posted:
I mostly only ever post about this but the first thing I do when I have control of Durthu either by starting with him or by confederating with him later, is send him northwards and just tear down Norsca. I might send someone else to help at some point maybe once Archaon turns up with his buddies, but the OId World prospers while the northern realm turns leafy green and everyone just hands me amber cause no on likes the Norse. I'll probably do the same with Khalida to the Vampire Count territories when I do a Khemri ME run. Still tossing up which LL to be for a Vortex run, though oddly Arkhan's hat speaks to me on dangerous levels.
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Early Access footage of Tomb Kings fighting Araby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGRJh0q-kSs
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Early Access footage of Tomb Kings fighting Araby. Goddammit this had me going for a second.
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Jan 21, 2018 15:33
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Speaking of mounts, I'm looking forward to trying Khatep. A LL artillery piece/caster lord sounds fun.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovv7wNVgFaM&t=9s
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Is there a known issue with co-op campaign? Been trying this with a friend today and we can't get past turn 1. Game always hangs up when AI "Clan Karond" in vortex campaign or Marienburg in Mortal Empires tries to play 
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Gonkish posted:I just wish I could figure out why the campaign map runs like absolute rear end for me. My RX480 handled the first game without issue, but even with lower settings the campaign map peaks at about 45fps, with the Vortex on screen dropping that into the 20s. DX11 fixes most problems
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I have a feeling they are going to lower the costs of Tomb King buildings. Watching a guy late into a Khatep run and he still doesn't have any tier 5 units, and barely has any tier 4 units. Spending 10000 gold for one unit ever between all of your armies is way more expensive than it seems, even if you can rebuild that unit instantly if it dies.
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Jan 21, 2018 17:22
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 If they don't make Surtha Ek a legendary lord I don't know what. He's the real antagonist of the series.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I have a feeling they are going to lower the costs of Tomb King buildings. Watching a guy late into a Khatep run and he still doesn't have any tier 5 units, and barely has any tier 4 units. Spending 10000 gold for one unit ever between all of your armies is way more expensive than it seems, even if you can rebuild that unit instantly if it dies. Who is actually that far into a campaign? The furthest along that I've seen anyone at is around turn 80 or 90.
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Jan 21, 2018 17:39
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Also I find it very funny that Tree Kin can't hide in woods.
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Arglebargle III posted:
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Arglebargle III posted:Also I find it very funny that Tree Kin can't hide in woods. I could have sworn they could, and also that Treemen were the only giant unit that could hide in woods. I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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JBP posted:There is something incredibly cold about having mortars and rockets bombarding a city while your army and general stand there waiting for their ammo the run dry before sending up towers and a battering ram.
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Jan 21, 2018 18:22
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Stephen9001 posted:I could have sworn they could, and also that Treemen were the only giant unit that could hide in woods. I was under the impression that Treemen hiding in the woods were the stealthiest a unit could get (that is, shortest range to detect) in twwh1
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The range to detect was incredibly short and it applied to Durthu. I managed to use him to ambush an empire army and he slaughtered them nearly unscathed.
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Jan 21, 2018 18:32
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I have a feeling they are going to lower the costs of Tomb King buildings. Watching a guy late into a Khatep run and he still doesn't have any tier 5 units, and barely has any tier 4 units. Spending 10000 gold for one unit ever between all of your armies is way more expensive than it seems, even if you can rebuild that unit instantly if it dies. They have a rite to lower construction costs by 25% and then you can have a tomb king sail around and get another 25% discount randomly off sea garbage, that doesn't seem so bad to me if you just save the rite for mass upgrades.
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I hate playing as vampires because their economy is garbage and it takes forever to get interesting units or spells. How am I going to feel about tomb kings? No upkeep and a better reason to build different buildings seems pretty cool but 100 turns of skeleton infantry seems less than ideal.
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Jan 21, 2018 18:56
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KPC_Mammon posted:I hate playing as vampires because their economy is garbage and it takes forever to get interesting units or spells. your garbage units being 100% expendable, and your special toys being That Good, should ease most of the pain
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KPC_Mammon posted:I hate playing as vampires because their economy is garbage and it takes forever to get interesting units or spells. One should probably get a treasure hunting ship that can also raid coastal settlements and everything will likely be fine. I think utilizing one of your few armies for that would be more worthwhile in the long run than having one more offensive/defensive army of lower tier troops due to the significantly slower tech progression.
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KPC_Mammon posted:I hate playing as vampires because their economy is garbage and it takes forever to get interesting units or spells. Judging from some LPs you can get cavalry and chariots pretty much from the very beginning (the respective buildings are T2 and T3, IIRC) , so you're not stuck with just garbage infantry forever. Also you'll get at least one unit of Ushabti in just about every major battle from their unique ability.
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Zudgemud posted:One should probably get a treasure hunting ship that can also raid coastal settlements and everything will likely be fine. I think utilizing one of your few armies for that would be more worthwhile in the long run than having one more offensive/defensive army of lower tier troops due to the significantly slower tech progression. I really like the idea of a Black Ark type unit that specifically serves to zip around and hoover up treasure. Like something pretty weak in autoresolve but having little/no upkeep and basically meant to grab sea treasure and treasure hunt coastal ruins.
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A throwaway lord with all the +campaign movement items you can find is what you're talking about. They cost, what, 300 upkeep and provide such wonderful things like 10000g, 5000g, upkeep reduction stuff. It's almost stupid not to do this.
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jokes posted:A throwaway lord with all the +campaign movement items you can find is what you're talking about. They cost, what, 300 upkeep and provide such wonderful things like 10000g, 5000g, upkeep reduction stuff. The problem is the pesky 'extra lord' tax, which adds up later on. I wouldn't mind some minor faction to have the benefit of having a special type of 'lord' dedicated to grabbing up phat lewt that had 'immortality' baked in with no tax.
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jokes posted:A throwaway lord with all the +campaign movement items you can find is what you're talking about. They cost, what, 300 upkeep and provide such wonderful things like 10000g, 5000g, upkeep reduction stuff. This depends heavily on what difficulty you are playing on, its not really viable on very hard/legendary.
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One thing I do really like about vampire counts is how Ghorst can move quickly enough to reach anywhere in eastern and western Sylvania within a single turn if he has an embedded specter. That guy can really move. It is nice to not be as reliant on walls.
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Kainser posted:This depends heavily on what difficulty you are playing on, its not really viable on very hard/legendary. I forget what the actual extra lord tax is, but if it's less than 25% then shooting for that 25% upkeep reduction for 5 turns is pretty appealing, especially when you get intermittent 10k and 5k boosts. I think if you're diligent about your travelin' boi you'll mostly maintain a 25% upkeep reduction. I play exclusively on very hard and I always have a little world traveler. It's also good for scoping out factions that might wanna trade with you that you might otherwise not be able to see.
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Shumagorath posted:Didn't TWW1 and later patch it so that fortress towers can shoot the length of the map? They're often pathetic damage wise and shoot your men in the front line. I never said we didn't take casualties.
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Higher level walls do get better towers which can be ruinous even if you're running straight for the walls. If you're playing empire though theres no reason not to bring a cannon or two and just blow the tower up.
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KPC_Mammon posted:One thing I do really like about vampire counts is how Ghorst can move quickly enough to reach anywhere in eastern and western Sylvania within a single turn if he has an embedded specter. That guy can really move. It is nice to not be as reliant on walls. Ironically hes the slowest Lord in the game on his cart.  Dude makes dwarves look like they're showing off. Captain Mediocre posted:It is absolutely always worthwhile to have a solo lord pooting around the sea for treasure, even on VH After you have a certain number of armies the upkeep makes it stop being worth it, but yeah. The Tomb Kings might be the reverse of that though, armies will be too limited to do that outside of late game most likely. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jan 21, 2018 |
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It is absolutely always worthwhile to have a solo lord pooting around the sea for treasure, even on VH  They bring in an absolute fortune from treasure + trading partner discovery + factionwide buffs, there's not even any question about them costing more than they earn. When you end up with a large empire and 4-5 armies then you should have income sorted and by that point you can go ahead and disband them. I assumed everybody did this.
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Eej posted:DX11 fixes most problems Except this one, unfortunately. DX11 or DX12, it doesn't matter, the campaign map runs like poo poo for me, and I'm not really sure why. The only thing DX12 does is make my load times take three to four times as long for no reason.
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Nephthys posted:Ironically hes the slowest Lord in the game on his cart. He is built for the marathon, not the sprint.
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Carcer posted:Higher level walls do get better towers which can be ruinous even if you're running straight for the walls. I generally charge the walls. I was standing and firing because it was my gimmick. Everything I do in the game revolves around whatever my gimmick is. I just had five mortar teams and flagellants basically.
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jokes posted:I forget what the actual extra lord tax is, but if it's less than 25% then shooting for that 25% upkeep reduction for 5 turns is pretty appealing, especially when you get intermittent 10k and 5k boosts. I think if you're diligent about your travelin' boi you'll mostly maintain a 25% upkeep reduction. Really curious where you are getting the 300 number from them when recruiting a new lord on turn one with your starting army will increase your upkeep by around ~1000 in total from base lord upkeep and the additional army upkeep and that's only going to get a lot higher once you fill up your first stack and want to get a real second army.
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I thought of something funny, but not really relevant to anything. I thought to myself one day that "You know what? If the Tomb Kings units have no upkeep, then that means the boring people have no excuse to start their games with disbanding their high tier starter unit, on the grounds of "efficiency". That's funny to me." Cuz remember how there was one youtube guy who started a Tyrion campaign with disbanding his phoenix to replace it with more archers? That guy won't be able to do that kind of souless poo poo with the Tomb Kings. And I find that hilarious for some reason. "I want to replace my huge monster with archers." "No, you can't do that, you need to build more buildings to increase your archer limit, disbanding your monster would not help with that, fool." "But... archers... spears..." "By Ptra what is wrong with you?" I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude. Stephen9001 fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jan 21, 2018 |
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Kinda a shame TK can’t confederate at all, though I get why since you could bypass their army and unit caps really easily. What are people gonna do for campaigns when TK l launches? I’m thinking a Khalida Vortex campaign to start and then a Settra Mortal Empires.
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