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SyntheticPolygon posted:Of course, everything about how Horikoshi has handled the whole traitor sub-plot makes me think he never really put too much thought into it so maybe his ideas have changed since then. I don't buy this reveal though, the chapter's obviously setting it up as a big reveal but they don't actually show anything incriminating or even use incriminating terminology in the ominous narration. I think Horikoshi probably had someone in mind at first, but got cold feet when he started seeing character polls. "Oh, everybody loves all of these good boys and best girls! Well... poo poo..."
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Considering we've seen Aoyama's mother I don't think he's the traitor. I'm thinking the reveal is just that Aoyama is a big wuss and he's coming to Midoriya to ask about how to grow a spine. I expect, however, that we'll find out the actual traitor by the end of the arc. Top suspect right now is Present Mic given that he was the first to bring up a traitor, resembles the evil Kaminari prototype and there was even a joke about his lack of a conscience in the last chapter. The usual suspects are just behind him.
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Jan 21, 2018 09:37
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Fan Theory: Mina has normal human skin, she just eats a lot of shrimp.
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Jan 21, 2018 11:07
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Don't forget, where he was during the USJ attack is "a secret".
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Jan 21, 2018 11:50
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lowercase16 posted:I think Horikoshi probably had someone in mind at first, but got cold feet when he started seeing character polls. "Oh, everybody loves all of these good boys and best girls! Well... poo poo..."
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Jan 21, 2018 17:11
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as long as it's not my sweet shadowy boy tokoyami i don't care
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Jan 21, 2018 17:15
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i feel horikoshi wouldnt just wing such a huge thing and it'll be good and make sense when it gets revealed because its iida
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Jan 21, 2018 17:32
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Grouchio posted:Couldn't he, I dunno, not give a drat about what his audience thinks, allowing him to off the characters he wants to off? Jump has a strong editorial hand.
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Jan 21, 2018 18:00
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Grouchio posted:Couldn't he, I dunno, not give a drat about what his audience thinks, [...]? With how Jump ratings work, no. No he cannot.
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Jan 21, 2018 18:18
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He could be a traitor without being actually evil if he's being blackmailed or threatened by someone  .
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Jan 21, 2018 20:44
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Grouchio posted:Couldn't he, I dunno, not give a drat about what his audience thinks, allowing him to off the characters he wants to off? Go look up how Byakuya Kuchiki died then undied
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Jan 21, 2018 21:30
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Or all the non-essential but popular characters that died in Naruto when Pain attacked the village
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Jan 21, 2018 21:32
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you're assuming a lot here. they don't have to kill him if he's the traitor and that won't even necessarily affect his popularity. just look at sasuke
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lowercase16 posted:I think Horikoshi probably had someone in mind at first, but got cold feet when he started seeing character polls. "Oh, everybody loves all of these good boys and best girls! Well... poo poo..." it's entirely possible that's why multiple characters had viable routes to traitor-dom. and similarly how you can easily argue that any given character can't possibly be the traitor, because they were all written in such a way where any of them could have been (and thus could have not been) since he didn't actually know who the traitor was at the time.
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Jan 21, 2018 21:52
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TheKingofSprings posted:Or all the non-essential but popular characters that died in Naruto when Pain attacked the village I don't remember who died. Not popular enough, that's why they died. 
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I don't remember who died. only pain died when he attacked the village (and Jiraiya earlier but that doesn't count). Just like only Madara + Obito + Neji died during the war.
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Jan 21, 2018 22:19
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Okay, so only what i remember. That's a new one!!
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Jan 21, 2018 22:25
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Kakashi died and so did choji's dad, shizune... but pain revived them all, which was the point being made
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Jan 21, 2018 22:31
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kakashi had a whole thing with his death and the walk back on it was hilarious
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Jan 21, 2018 22:38
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Slime posted:As far as we know. It'd be great if the next chapter was just a slow zoom out of an increasingly long lineup of characters watching Deku sleep. Manatee Cannon posted:kakashi had a whole thing with his death and the walk back on it was hilarious Naruto's unwillingness to really commit to anyone's death in the second part really sucked. When they brought back the first major antagonist even I just kind of sighed because no one really dies, and anyone who did die just came back to life again anyway.
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I want to point out that people are just assuming those deaths were undone by editorial fiat and there's really no evidence to support that
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Jan 21, 2018 23:46
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Yeah, those were written by people who were already allergic to consequences.
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Jan 21, 2018 23:55
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Kild posted:only pain died when he attacked the village (and Jiraiya earlier but that doesn't count). Just like only Madara + Obito + Neji died during the war. Inoichi and Shikaku, but they're unimportant.
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I remember hearing that the bleach deaths did get walked back on because of fan backlash but idk where I got that from
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Jan 22, 2018 00:38
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Inoichi and Shikaku, but they're unimportant. oh yeah I forgot they got nuked
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Jan 22, 2018 01:15
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kubo and second half naruto (poo poo even some of the stuff after the chuunin exams were bad) kishi are both terrible writers and i need another example of SJ editor meddling that cant be explained with bad writing
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Jan 22, 2018 01:54
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Assassination Classroom bringing back characters from the dead and just going 'ok he's alive somehow' and loving with the really powerful chapters where Nagisa deals with his abusive mother.
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Nuebot posted:It'd be great if the next chapter was just a slow zoom out of an increasingly long lineup of characters watching Deku sleep. That dorm building is pretty high, only characters who can climb, fly, or levitate can spy on Deku. Which means most of his classmates can spy on him.
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Jan 22, 2018 02:50
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Looks like Comixology has all the currently published volumes on sale at the moment! Time to fill up your Kindle device with good reading times. Also obviously what's going to happen is Aoyama is going to confess to Deku, starting a string of confessions in time for Valentines/White Day jokes
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Jan 22, 2018 03:17
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Say Nothing posted:That dorm building is pretty high, only characters who can climb, fly, or levitate can spy on Deku. An entire page of Bakugou just hovering angrily with explosion jets, glaring at a sleeping Deku.
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Jan 22, 2018 03:22
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Nuebot posted:An entire page of Bakugou just hovering angrily with explosion jets, glaring at a sleeping Deku. The entire class takes it in turns to spy on Deku.
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Jan 22, 2018 03:25
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Aoyama's room is right next door to Midoriya.
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Jan 22, 2018 04:01
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Say Nothing posted:That dorm building is pretty high, only characters who can climb, fly, or levitate can spy on Deku. Aoyama - Has a room right next to Deku Mina - Can create viscuous acid to stick herself onto the wall outside Deku's room and spy on Deku through the window Tsuyu - Can frog-jump high and cling onto wall / window outside Deku's room Tenya - No apparent spying ability Ochako - Can levitate herself and spy on Deku through the window Ojiro - Can use his tail to cling onto wall / window outside Deku's room Kaminari - No apparent spying ability Kirishima - No apparent spying ability Koji - Can command bugs to infiltrate Deku's room to spy on Deku Sato - No apparent spying ability Shoji - Can create ears on his tentacles to listen in on Deku Kyoka - Can use her ear-extensions to listen in on Deku Tokoyami - Can fly with his shadow-bird and spy on Deku through the window Todoroki - Can create ice to elevate himself and spy on Deku through the window Toru - Is already spying on Deku in every panel where you don't see her Bakugou - Can levitate himself with explosions and spy on Deku through the window Mineta - Has the other room right next to Deku. Can also attach himself to wall / window outside Deku's room with his sticky balls Yaoyorozu - Can create any number and kind of spy equipment with her Quirk to spy on Deku
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Jan 22, 2018 04:07
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Sandwiched between a stalker and a Mineta, that poor kid.
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Kaminari bugged deku's room night 1
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This thread is the traitor
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The traitor is the friends we made along the way.
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drjuggalo posted:kubo and second half naruto (poo poo even some of the stuff after the chuunin exams were bad) kishi are both terrible writers and i need another example of SJ editor meddling that cant be explained with bad writing Literally everything about the Cell saga in DBZ after the initial setup was the result of an editor telling Toriyama that gero/the androids/imperfect cell weren't good enough and that he had to jazz poo poo up.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Literally everything about the Cell saga in DBZ after the initial setup was the result of an editor telling Toriyama that gero/the androids/imperfect cell weren't good enough and that he had to jazz poo poo up. Oh yeah, that's a good example. 19 and 20 were meant to be the actual androids (well, cyborg, in the case of the latter), but Toriyama's editor thought that "an old man and a China doll" were terrible villains. Hence, 17 and 18. The editor hated them too and thought they were just some brats or whatever. (This might be why 17 and 18 do very little actual villainy in the arc, at least in the main timeline, and hurt fewer people than nominal hero Vegeta, on a tangent. Edit: Actually, do they kill anyone besides Gero? They stole some stuff and hosed around a lot, and 18 blew up a forest out of impatience, but I can't remember if they killed anyone else.) Then came Imperfect Cell, and... The editor hated him too, if I recall correctly. Another good SJ editor story, Yoshihiro Togashi's editor allegedly locked him in a hotel room until he finished the latest chapter of his manga once. I don't know if or how the guy interfered with the manga's content in a notable way ever, but, yeah. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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That wasn't even Toriyama's current editor, it was his old editor that he still asked for opinions and dude didn't expect Toriyama to be listening to his feedback anymore.
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