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crunchyroll put the first ep of laidback camp and a place further than the universe up on youtube. that's rad https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/955297728090656769
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i watched the second ep of franxx. this show's so blatantly sexual that its become funny. "you were awful" indeed
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VostokProgram posted:i watched the second ep of franxx. this show's so blatantly sexual that its become funny. "you were awful" indeed Trigger's (Yes, I know, saying it for brevity) tired of this subliminal sexual reference thing. They've moved onto the superliminal.
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gmq posted:"After the Rain looks interesting, I'll give it a chan-" Amazon Strike is no longer a thing so you just need Prime. In unrelated news, https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-01-16/masaaki-yuasa-responds-to-critic-poor-review-of-devilman-crybaby/.126497 Is that guy's argument literally, "This isn't anime enough, therefore it is poo poo"?
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Even after seven clarifications ANN still hasn't explained that dude's complaint. He's mad about increasing western influence/attempts to pander to westerners in anime, which are often wrongheaded and stupid and hurt the creators. The director of Shirobako got chewed out a few months ago for his show 'not appealing to westerners at all,' even though it's passably popular in the West. Devilman Crybaby was funded by Netflix, a western company, so that guy was using it as a springboard to talk about his issues with Japanese artists and creators having to sacrifice their own visions to appeal to people from countries they've never been to. Now: 1) Netflix exercised no creative control on Crybaby. 2) Yuasa clearly stuck to his own vision. 3) Crybaby is popular in Japan, too. So that guy's complaints are still dumb and easily dismissed, but he is coming from a somewhat reasonable place, it's just the leap from that place to getting mad about Crybaby that he fucks up on.
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Jan 22, 2018 06:28
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ViggyNash posted:Amazon Strike is no longer a thing so you just need Prime. Prime is almost useless for me since I can't use it for shipping. 
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Jan 22, 2018 06:36
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Is the guy who's complaining about Crybaby the same guy who chewed out the Shirobako director? Because anyone who doesn't love and respect Shirobako is not someone worth listening to.
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I didn't know that 'pandering to westerners' was an actual industry problem. I also don't see how targeting international visibility is a bad thing. If that's what you wanna make, that's what you wanna make. Now, if the argument was 'We don't like people targeting western audiences because they have weird customs and norms and we don't want that polluting our industry,' I could understand that viewpoint. I'd think that person should  , but at least I'd understand it.
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gmq posted:Prime is almost useless for me since I can't use it for shipping. What horrible frontier do you live in that Amazon won't ship to?
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Jan 22, 2018 06:40
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ViggyNash posted:What horrible frontier do you live in that Amazon won't ship to? A place... further than the Universe.
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Jan 22, 2018 06:42
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ViggyNash posted:I didn't know that 'pandering to westerners' was an actual industry problem. I also don't see how targeting international visibility is a bad thing. If that's what you wanna make, that's what you wanna make. It sounds like the problem is that at least for some people that's not what they want to make, but they're told to by producers/executives/whoever has money.
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Jan 22, 2018 06:49
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Is Naruto an otaku culture anime or a subculture anime? Because otherwise I have no idea wtf that guy's point is regarding international success.
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Jan 22, 2018 07:08
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Is the guy who's complaining about Crybaby the same guy who chewed out the Shirobako director? Because anyone who doesn't love and respect Shirobako is not someone worth listening to. AnacondaHL posted:Is Naruto an otaku culture anime or a subculture anime? Because otherwise I have no idea wtf that guy's point is regarding international success. Endorph fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Jan 22, 2018 07:14
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i wonder what he thinks of golden kamui he'd probably claw his face off
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Jan 22, 2018 07:30
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japanese creators shouldnt have to worry about appealing to western audiences because western audiences have garbage taste
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is there anyone who doesn't have garbage taste
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Blhue posted:is there anyone who doesn't have garbage taste 
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It would be a shame if stuff like Symphogear stopped being made. I wish there was more Symphogear merch available stateside. I'm not really a figures kinda guy, but I'd buy a fun (non-fanservicey) shirt or poster, easy. I feel like trying to buy stuff from those Japanese-language is incredibly difficult, and products are always sold out or priced sky-high. I would shell out for a "Kazanari Tsubasa, live in concert" promo poster or something.
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Are BB and Passionlip stated to appear in the upcoming Fate/Extra anime?
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Is the guy who's complaining about Crybaby the same guy who chewed out the Shirobako director? Because anyone who doesn't love and respect Shirobako is not someone worth listening to. i think endorph means this (though its the studio CEO) "Just left a seminar on overseas broadcasting where there was a breakdown of what overseas anime fans want. In particular, Shirobako was used as an example of what not to do. Supposedly the scale of the story was too small. This makes me remember when I was in elementary school, I would often be called up by my teacher to do a math problem on the blackboard only to be introduced as an example of how to do it wrong."
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ViggyNash posted:Amazon Strike is no longer a thing so you just need Prime. Is that the article that ANN wrongly translated the tweet and essentially sourcing the information from like Japanese 4chan? I remember seeing people really upset at ANN for something around those lines.
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Grouchio posted:Are BB and Passionlip stated to appear in the upcoming Fate/Extra anime?
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psyer posted:Is that the article that ANN wrongly translated the tweet and essentially sourcing the information from like Japanese 4chan? I remember seeing people really upset at ANN for something around those lines. a lot of ann's articles are sourced from matome sites, which sometimes do pick up legit stuff on chans to report but often sensationalize stuff for clicks
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psyer posted:Is that the article that ANN wrongly translated the tweet and essentially sourcing the information from like Japanese 4chan? I remember seeing people really upset at ANN for something around those lines. basically, but yaraon isnt quite a japanese 4chan, they're a bbs/blog with a focus on otaku news and gossip. but the writers will often form their own conclusions or report things with an opinionated slant which you cant just translate and slap on your English news site as fact (well, you shouldn't, anyway) one big problem isn't yaraon lacking credibility at all, but that people will often translate their stuff poorly or someone pulls random poo poo out of their rear end and attribute it to yaraon and no one will fact-check it. e.g. yaraon reported that the Keijo manga was ending, with a simple image of the author's comment in the manga's serialization that simply stated, "Keijo will be ending next week." that's it, that was the article. a 4chan post in a thread for the news quoted the author as saying the manga was done because the anime did poorly, and people spread it around to other sites and attributed it to yaraon without anyone actually fact-checking it (even though the post on 4chan got numerous replies like "where did you translate this from?" "is this sourced?" "this is bullshit, isn't it?") Space Flower fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Endorph posted:No. He's the opposite of that. Incidents like that are why he's mad about western influence on anime. Symphogear should have high international appeal through being good and fun and cool imo. Granted I don't really know what characteristics the international market is looking for in anime. I mean I probably should since I watch a lot of the popular or mainstream stuff but what are the qualities market figures and such show the West responds to?
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Jan 22, 2018 11:12
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Pop Team Epic continues to own and having Freeza and Cell from Dragonball do the voices owned.
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psyer posted:Is that the article that ANN wrongly translated the tweet and essentially sourcing the information from like Japanese 4chan? I remember seeing people really upset at ANN for something around those lines. That guy's a professor so I doubt it. Doesn't mean he isn't an idiot, but I doubt he crawls 4chan or similar.
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viggy pls, you didnt follow that post at all, or read the posts below it
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Oh I thought you were talking in a general sense, I missed the link at the bottom of the article. My bad.
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VostokProgram posted:It sounds like the problem is that at least for some people that's not what they want to make, but they're told to by producers/executives/whoever has money. Isn't that basically a producer's job? Or an editor in manga. To try to push the desires of the people paying for a work so as to maximize profit. Sometimes it'll be appealing to foreign audiences (which is also a thing on other shores too), but sometimes it'll be "include more action". Or romance. Or comedy. Or more guns. Or less guns. Or fanservice. Or whatever. Complaining about it seems weird to me because it's just one more in long litany of requests creators have to push back against in making whatever their vision is. Space Flower posted:i think endorph means this (though its the studio CEO) This is weird to me too. I could get producers or something pushing creators to make stuff with broader appeal and that will make money, but it's not like people worldwide don't create small, personal stories with niche appeal. Hollywood has things like "The Post" about a very specific historical incident not a huge amount of people, especially overseas will care about. The UK makes small scale stuff like The Office or The IT Crowd. Canada makes Trailer Park Boys etc. Stuff that people overseas will have a harder time understanding culturally or historically. It just seems like they don't realize the same art will always be niche and think the issue isn't that people make niche stuff, but that niche stuff is only a Japanese problem. Not even the guy who wrote the post, but his bosses. SyntheticPolygon posted:Symphogear should have high international appeal through being good and fun and cool imo. Symphogear should be popular because it's a tits and rear end heavy show with lots of over the top action and light but fun characters fighting silly monsters with some melodrama. At the same time though the singing during and to battle element probably loses a lot of people. Plus, the show got worse over time, at least to my experience, with the second season being kind of fun and the third peaking in literally the first two or three minutes. tsob fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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I'm not really super sure why we care about one Japanese twitter person's wrong opinion on anime. That said, I can imagine certain ideas of 'mainstream for the west' to be kinda insufferable, especially given all the 'next Miyazaki' business. Calling Yuasa the next Miyazaki would be amusing though. Love Naruto? Try Tatami Galaxy!
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you joke, but when yuasa finally fulfills his dream of directing an episode of boruto, the circle will be complete
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Citrus is pretty trashy man.
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Yeah, it's good
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Shonenbako
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tsob posted:Symphogear should be popular because it's a tits and rear end heavy show with lots of over the top action and light but fun characters fighting silly monsters with some melodrama. At the same time though the singing during and to battle element probably loses a lot of people. Plus, the show got worse over time, at least to my experience, with the second season being kind of fun and the third peaking in literally the first two or three minutes. symphogear axz loving owns and has one of the best villain teams in the entire show, especially cags
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Very good bullying in Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san today.
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Sakurazuka posted:Yeah, it's good Make the citrus thread.
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