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MilitantBlackGuy posted:Is this from the Turin video? It looked like the Ushabti w/ Great Bows have like an airburst arrow that leaves snakes on the ground after they hit their target?!? It was hard to tell, but if so it was super rad. holy poo poo WHAT
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"I'm sick of these motherfucking snakes being fired by motherfucking Anubis statues into my motherfucking army!" Tomb Kings are amazing. 
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No wonder tomb kings think they have the best archers in the world, they invented cluster munitions.
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Games › Total War: Warhammer 2 - Snakes on a Plain
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Some unit comparisons for Tomb Kings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ZlpTp_dJA
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GW letting CA do whatever they want with old and busted WHFB because they got the new hotness that all the kids want, Age of Sigmar, continues to produce dividends
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toasterwarrior posted:holy poo poo WHAT When the Tomb Kings talk about the blessings of Asaph, the asp goddess, making their archers better they are not loving kidding.
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I tried to play Tyrion's start in Mortal Empires and I don't think I've got it in me. I unified Ulthuan, started the invasion of Naggaroth and made good inroads vs Morathi before checking the short campaign objectives in further detail and seeing that I also had to destroy Naggarond. I checked the map, took one hard look at exactly how far I was going to have to wade through Dark Elves (and only loving Dark Elves) to accomplish that objective, and quit the game. Am I misreading this, or is Tyrion's intended midgame really a 50-turn hellwar against a single faction?
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Voyager I posted:I tried to play Tyrion's start in Mortal Empires and I don't think I've got it in me. I just completed a Tyrion Mortal Empires game. I kept my sanity in the Dark Elf Campaign by only sending one army over to fight them. I kept one at home to block norse/chaos and rebels, and send my third army to the Old World to start beating up Skaven and Vampires.
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AnEdgelord posted:Some unit comparisons for Tomb Kings The tl;dr for this video, and a lot of the Tomb Kings battle reports we're seeing, is that TK units are mostly mediocre with a few exceptions. Ushabti are basically bestigors and are pretty good in that role, especially in multiplayer where they're quite point-efficient. Ushabti with Great Bows are really good, putting out a ton of damage at 255 range, with cluster munition arrows that have knockdown against infantry - the only reason you wouldn't take them is if they're going to get sniped by cannons, as they're Large units and thus easy targets. Necrosphynxes are slightly better (albeit slower) dragon ogres, and serve that role well. Tomb Scorpions are an armor-piercing anti-infantry unit with an attack animation that fucks up infantry formations hard - it's looking like a niche pick that does well against dwarves and dark elves. They also have a Rusty Arrers equivalent RoR for Skeleton Archers, which makes a heavily armored unit very vulnerable, very fast. Everything else in their roster we've seen tested has been underwhelming compared to their equivalents in other races. Notable disappointment: the Casket of Souls, both as a standalone unit and as an add-on to Khatep. It's a garbage artillery piece with terrible accuracy, you take it only for the Winds reserve boost it gives. Surprisingly, we haven't seen anyone test the Tomb King Chariot Swarm. Settra's chariot charge is weirdly bad, and there's some speculation that chariots as a whole have been nerfed, but I hold out hope that their ridiculously high-model chariot unit can be viable.
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Kestral posted:Surprisingly, we haven't seen anyone test the Tomb King Chariot Swarm. Settra's chariot charge is weirdly bad, and there's some speculation that chariots as a whole have been nerfed, but I hold out hope that their ridiculously high-model chariot unit can be viable. I'm wondering if this is because skeleton horses have really low mass. I'd not be surprised if the 12 model skeleton chariot unit has the same combined mass as an orc boar chariot unit. Nerfing chariots in the same patch that releases a faction heavily based on a historical army that mainly used chariots would be depressing.
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AnEdgelord posted:Some unit comparisons for Tomb Kings Nice. There's a TK legendary lord comparison here too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7C0arR310g
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Kestral posted:The tl;dr for this video, and a lot of the Tomb Kings battle reports we're seeing, is that TK units are mostly mediocre with a few exceptions. Ushabti are basically bestigors and are pretty good in that role, especially in multiplayer where they're quite point-efficient. Ushabti with Great Bows are really good, putting out a ton of damage at 255 range, with cluster munition arrows that have knockdown against infantry - the only reason you wouldn't take them is if they're going to get sniped by cannons, as they're Large units and thus easy targets. Necrosphynxes are slightly better (albeit slower) dragon ogres, and serve that role well. Tomb Scorpions are an armor-piercing anti-infantry unit with an attack animation that fucks up infantry formations hard - it's looking like a niche pick that does well against dwarves and dark elves. They also have a Rusty Arrers equivalent RoR for Skeleton Archers, which makes a heavily armored unit very vulnerable, very fast. A lot of this is also counterbalanced by their unique army mechanic that procs healing as Skeletons die and gives a free Ushabti summon at tier 3. It gives their units more longevity than you would expect and lets them punch above their weight since you get free entire army healing. Their lore also triggers army wide healing while casting.
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What I really want to see is them taking all the skills, item, and battle parts of the game and dropping it in a completely different game. The campaign part just feels comparably lacking.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Nice. There's a TK legendary lord comparison here too: Some campaign details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80ZX2gGb64
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genericnick posted:What I really want to see is them taking all the skills, item, and battle parts of the game and dropping it in a completely different game. The campaign part just feels comparably lacking. It sounds like you should join the goon tournament.
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genericnick posted:What I really want to see is them taking all the skills, item, and battle parts of the game and dropping it in a completely different game. The campaign part just feels comparably lacking. Just play multiplayer dog
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Fangz posted:Some campaign details Also for people needing to brush up on them, here's a good Lore video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsY4xyRc76w
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Zore posted:A lot of this is also counterbalanced by their unique army mechanic that procs healing as Skeletons die and gives a free Ushabti summon at tier 3. It gives their units more longevity than you would expect and lets them punch above their weight since you get free entire army healing. Lore of Nehekara spam is definitely going to be A Thing. The question at the moment is whether the Realm of Souls healing is actually meaningful, or just a lengthy countdown to a free unit of bestigor-equivalents - it's not exactly Murderous Prowess. Edit: KPC_Mammon posted:I'm wondering if this is because skeleton horses have really low mass. This would actually fit with what we're seeing with Settra's lackluster charges. His chariot impact was negligible, and since he's using a blinged-up Tomb Kings chariot, it's entirely possible that he's impacting with 1/12th of a "normal" chariot. Kestral fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Kestral posted:This would actually fit with what we're seeing with Settra's lackluster charges. His chariot impact was negligible, and since he's using a blinged-up Tomb Kings chariot, it's entirely possible that he's impacting with 1/12th of a "normal" chariot. I'm sure I heard CA say in a stream that they changed something with TK chariots so that they don't get bogged down in combat and just smash through infantry.
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Kestral posted:Lore of Nehekara spam is definitely going to be A Thing. The question at the moment is whether the Realm of Souls healing is actually meaningful, or just a lengthy countdown to a free unit of bestigor-equivalents - it's not exactly Murderous Prowess. It doesn't effect your constructs, which seem to constitute the bulk of tomb kings useful units.
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V for Vegas posted:Games › Total War: Warhammer 2 - Snakes on a Plain The Something Awful Forums > Games > Total War: Warhammer 2: Walk like an Egyptian
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KPC_Mammon posted:It sounds like you should join the goon tournament. Rygar201 posted:Just play multiplayer dog But I like collecting stuff and seeing my toy soldiers improve.
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Kestral posted:Lore of Nehekara spam is definitely going to be A Thing. The question at the moment is whether the Realm of Souls healing is actually meaningful, or just a lengthy countdown to a free unit of bestigor-equivalents - it's not exactly Murderous Prowess. Yeah, I'm not super worried about Tomb Kings being good. Beastmen went from incredibly mediocre at release to really good now, so even if they are undertuned (and I'm not sure we have enough data to determine that right now) there are a lot of really interesting places they could be bumped up to keep their flavor.
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Voyager I posted:Am I misreading this, or is Ulthuan's history really a 50-century hellwar against a single faction? You are not misreading this.
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Tomb Kings' whole gimmick is having trash level skeleton guys with cool monsters. They're still an undead faction. They trade some of the raw hitting power of VC monstrous units and characters for more flexibility (see monstrous archers), and they have stronger lord buffs than VC. But they still default to the monster hammer and skeleton anvil tactic. CA will tune and tinker but don't expect skeletons to trade well with any faction that brings heavy infantry by default, even with strong lord buffs. That's just not their deal.
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genericnick posted:But I like collecting stuff and seeing my toy soldiers improve. Realistically CA should just reintroduce Avatar Conquest mode from Shogun 2
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Im a poo poo player thats is terrible at this game. How do I joint he tournament and what should I do to not commit any rules breaking?
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Arglebargle III posted:Tomb Kings' whole gimmick is having trash level skeleton guys with cool monsters. They're still an undead faction. They trade some of the raw hitting power of VC monstrous units and characters for more flexibility (see monstrous archers), and they have stronger lord buffs than VC. But they still default to the monster hammer and skeleton anvil tactic. I think Khalida and the archers from hell strategy will have a solid niche, at least.
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ProZocK posted:Im a poo poo player thats is terrible at this game. How do I joint he tournament and what should I do to not commit any rules breaking? This is the discord: https://discordapp.com/channels/187981150772264960/187981150772264960 This is the tourney: http://challonge.com/b37ymgv0 I've played 2 MP games ever and they were just gimmicky ones, so I'll get smashed but who cares. The rules are on the Challonge front page. e: actually cans omeone clarify what this means -Both players must attack. Single-entity units by themselves do not count as attacking unless they are the only thing left, in which case they may not retreat from melee. Artillery units (inc. Cygors, Luminarks etc) count as attacking, but single-entity non-artillery units such as Glade Lords or spellcasters don't. I assume it means you have to move up? If I want to ring of steel my dwarfs is that frowned on?
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Arglebargle III posted:Tomb Kings' whole gimmick is having trash level skeleton guys with cool monsters. They're still an undead faction. They trade some of the raw hitting power of VC monstrous units and characters for more flexibility (see monstrous archers), and they have stronger lord buffs than VC. But they still default to the monster hammer and skeleton anvil tactic. Their skeletons aren't even half bad for what they are, dudes like the Warriors can actually take on a unit of Bleakswords and win. But yea, their infantry is not supposed to be your main source of damage.
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I haven't seen anyone test out Warshpinx. How are they, they look rad as gently caress and they're supposedly an anti-infantry unit.
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that link to the discord doesn't work. I would like to sign up for the tourney though. My steam name is sharzak.
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Gay Horney posted:that link to the discord doesn't work. I would like to sign up for the tourney though. My steam name is sharzak. Works for me in browser. Try https://discord.gg/UxZKY4 The group is Total War Goonfights E: VVVV i probably hosed up because I don't know how things work
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Thanks I tried the first link on mobile in the app then finally on pc and none of em worked
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That invitation was set to expire after 24 hours because discord is weird like that, here's an invite link that's permanent: https://discord.gg/gjDJUpQ
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