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Peachfart posted:Its this. US policy demands that all Presidents kill civilians, I'm not happy about it, but it is reality. Maybe consider changing that policy then?
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Argas posted:The answer is that much of the world is built on the exploitation of others and we'll enforce it via violence. It's good if you're not okay with it but changing one important cog in the machine isn't going to suddenly change things. I mean we could suddenly change things by not having a president who drone strikes people constantly.
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forkboy84 posted:Maybe consider changing that policy then? Lemme get right on that. GodFish posted:I mean we could suddenly change things by not having a president who drone strikes people constantly. Because dude had the joystick in his hands laughing maniacally.
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FRINGE posted:(Who will of course be articulate and 'cool'.) Yo, gently caress off with this. You can criticize Obama without blowing the dog whistle, c'mon now.
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Jan 22, 2018 16:26
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forkboy84 posted:Maybe consider changing that policy then? Sure, I will bring it up at the next illuminati meeting.
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inkblot posted:Yo, gently caress off with this. You can criticize Obama without blowing the dog whistle, c'mon now. What the gently caress is wrong with you? Obama followed Bush The Confused, and was followed by The Orange Clown. gently caress off with your desperate WOKE isms.
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Did you guys also notice tje (((banker puppet))). It was nice and subtle. I almost didn't notice until.someone pointed out "articulate." Or he could also seriously talking about the lovely Democratic politicians in this counfry that ARE wall street puppets but don't talk like idiots the way GWB Jr and DJT do. They have far more acceptable social views than the republicans but are just as commited to loving working people of any color. Its a hard call.
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Peachfart posted:Sure, I will bring it up at the next illuminati meeting. Or like, we could build a mass anti-war movement like was necessary to make the US withdraw from Vietnam.
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therobit posted:Did you guys also notice tje (((banker puppet))). It was nice and subtle. I almost didn't notice until.someone pointed out "articulate." Obama liked to run finance people as Chief of Staff. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/04/rahm-emanuel-and-magnetar-capital-the-definition-of-compromised.html https://www.propublica.org/article/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-a-top-banker-with-strong-chamber-ties And lets not get started on little Timmy Geithner. His admin brought 0 cases against wall street criminals, and he oversaw a massive handout to the banker class. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/12/henhouse-meet-fox-wall-street-washington-obama/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/23/untouchables-wall-street-prosecutions-obama Yeah he was way better than Bush or Clinton when they did what they could to keep the war and finance machines happy. Oh wait, Clinton the economic hero? Yeah hes the guy that set the economy up to crash later on. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/ Its fun seeing the "Im offended" machine kick off so easily when no one knows what any of the last half dozen Presidents actually did, except "this team" and "that team". Here Ill make you more mad. You know who did actually roast some finance criminals? CIA Bush. http://billmoyers.com/2013/09/17/hundreds-of-wall-street-execs-went-to-prison-during-the-last-fraud-fueled-bank-crisis/
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FRINGE posted:Obama liked to run finance people as Chief of Staff. I was pointing out how it can be hard to tell the difference. I don't disagree about Clinton and Bush and Trump sucking donkey dicks. The dog whistles have bled into legitimate concerns, and a lot of people can't wait to fire up the outrage machine.
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FRINGE posted:Obama liked to run finance people as Chief of Staff. Is it at all possible that the people in charge aren't all monsters? I guess if you ignore all the good that was done by Obama and Clinton you could consider them monsters. Personally my life and the life of those around me have only been hurt by the likes of Trump, GWB and Bush Sr., but good things did happen under Obama and Clinton. I don't know of any programs or policies that improved under "that team", despite your assertion that they're the same.
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ElCondemn posted:Is it at all possible that the people in charge aren't all monsters? Not yet.
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ElCondemn posted:Is it at all possible that the people in charge aren't all monsters? I guess if you ignore all the good that was done by Obama and Clinton you could consider them monsters. Personally my life and the life of those around me have only been hurt by the likes of Trump, GWB and Bush Sr., but good things did happen under Obama and Clinton. I don't know of any programs or policies that improved under "that team", despite your assertion that they're the same. Basically what you are saying here is that only you and your close circle of friends matter. All the people killed by the policies of your favorites, well they don't count as people I guess.
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ElCondemn posted:Is it at all possible that the people in charge aren't all monsters? I guess if you ignore all the good that was done by Obama and Clinton you could consider them monsters. Personally my life and the life of those around me have only been hurt by the likes of Trump, GWB and Bush Sr., but good things did happen under Obama and Clinton. I don't know of any programs or policies that improved under "that team", despite your assertion that they're the same. You'd be hard pressed to find a President that did nothing that didn't have at least some benefit to you. It's basically functionally impossible. For example, Bush (GWB) was the first President to issue guidance that all Federal Law Enforcement agencies ban racial profiling. Obama usually gets a lot of credit for it because he campaigned on the idea, but never actually got any follow through or even issued an executive order to replace the guidance. I mean, unless you support racial profiling, then I suppose this example doesn't count.
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Jesus gently caress this is juvenile. We're in D&D, is there really no better thread for your sophist slapfight?
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I'm sure nobody remembers but about a year ago I said I was saving up to move to the PNW. I did so in October. Drove all the way to Portland, then went to check out Seattle, and now back in Portland. I finally managed to land a somewhat stable job two weeks ago. Things are going well and I'm enjoying it here so far.
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Shifty Nipples posted:Lemme get right on that. I'm sure the president has nothing to do with our countries military policy and actually didn't want to do drone strikes or to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan but the mean old army wouldn't listen.
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Jan 22, 2018 20:25
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FRINGE posted:His admin brought 0 cases against wall street criminals, and he oversaw a massive handout to the banker class. Yeah my "favorite" example is when banks got caught engaged in money laundering for Latin American drug cartels and loving goddamned Eric Holder made up some bullshit about how the market might take a tumble if they started prosecuting those executives because they're just so darn important. Also the time when Obama said we "mustn't be too sanctimonious" about American officers literally torturing prisoners to death.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I'm sure nobody remembers but about a year ago I said I was saving up to move to the PNW. Congratulations. We never forget.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I'm sure nobody remembers but about a year ago I said I was saving up to move to the PNW. Where are you from so we know how much to hate you?
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therobit posted:Where are you from so we know how much to hate you? 40 miles north of Chicago.
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Out of curiosity, what brought you out this way?
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please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Out of curiosity, what brought you out this way? I always wanted to move out West so I decided to try out PNW. I initially had Seattle set in mind, but chose Portland due to it being less cluttered and not as expensive. IM DAY DAY IRL posted:please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia please say portlandia What's "Portlandia"?
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punk rebel ecks posted:
OK you can stay.
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therobit posted:OK you can stay. even after punk rebel ecks posted:Portland... less cluttered and not as expensive. ??
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:even after I mean Portland isn't as expensive as where I was before and was less expensive than what I can't across in Seattle.
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That new Amazon grocery store doesn't take food stamps.
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anthonypants posted:That new Amazon grocery store doesn't take food stamps. This blows but tbh we should just be doing direct cash transfers to the poor instead of doing food stamps
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whomupclicklike posted:This blows but tbh we should just be doing direct cash transfers to the poor instead of doing food stamps Yes, but we are nowhere near giving transfers of that nature. So in the meantime let's not gently caress over their one good way to get their food.
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seiferguy posted:Yes, but we are nowhere near giving transfers of that nature. So in the meantime let's not gently caress over their one good way to get their food. I don't disagree with you my dude I think the Amazon shops should take EBT. it can't be that hard
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whomupclicklike posted:I don't disagree with you my dude I think the Amazon shops should take EBT. it can't be that hard it's incredibly easy, transactions can be processed through existing POS systems. there is no way this is simply 'oversight,' they knew from the jump that they'd be excluding people from shopping there by not providing a system to accept SNAP and probably thought either "hmm, let's see if we can get away with this" or "we'll apologize after the initial rush subsides, will implement, then will try to get a win on something that should have never been a question in the first place"
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Peachfart posted:Why would I buy a Subway sandwich when actual good sub places exist?
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LividLiquid posted:Every grocery store has a deli counter that will make you a better, cheaper sandwich than Subway. I will never understand Subway.
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LividLiquid posted:Every grocery store has a deli counter that will make you a better, cheaper sandwich than Subway. I will never understand Subway. it's all about familiarity. people gravitate toward experiences they are comfortable with- if you like the number 6 with chips and a drink you can get that at every single subway location across the country (and lord knows there are plenty of them). the homogenization of franchise business is entirely designed around this concept.
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anthonypants posted:Are you familiar with the phrase "food desert" Most Subway's are in the suburbs where there are grocery stores everywhere.
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DevNull posted:Basically what you are saying here is that only you and your close circle of friends matter. All the people killed by the policies of your favorites, well they don't count as people I guess. I'm not saying that, you're just making poo poo up. I'm saying that Obama and Clinton had policies that directly affected people like me positively, meanwhile the "other side" is actively attacking people like me. I'm sure you'll twist it into me being complicit in the murder of children or whatever but I think it's really disingenuous to pretend like there's no difference between the parties and the platforms they endorse. nessin posted:You'd be hard pressed to find a President that did nothing that didn't have at least some benefit to you. It's basically functionally impossible. I am pretty hard pressed to find policies that GWB enacted that positively impacted me or people like me. Clearly this means that I'm pro-racial profiling, but maybe you can find something he did to directly improve the lives of the poor, minorities or other underrepresented classes because as I said I am having trouble finding anything.
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