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Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


My compy broke and it looks like it's gonna be a couple weeks before it's fixed, so I'm looking for hidden gems for the Switch, PS4, or Wii U. Ideally games that aren't better with a mouse and keyboard (so nothing FPS). A stylish racing or action game would be ideal.

I was really enjoying Vanquish, Brigador, Doom, and The Surge before my computer crashed on me, so any games similar to those would be really nice - though obviously I don't just want to buy those games again, as tempting as it is.

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Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Trick Question posted:

My compy broke and it looks like it's gonna be a couple weeks before it's fixed, so I'm looking for hidden gems for the Switch, PS4, or Wii U. Ideally games that aren't better with a mouse and keyboard (so nothing FPS). A stylish racing or action game would be ideal.

I was really enjoying Vanquish, Brigador, Doom, and The Surge before my computer crashed on me, so any games similar to those would be really nice - though obviously I don't just want to buy those games again, as tempting as it is.

If you like action games and enjoyed Vanquish. I would suggest both The Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 they are by the same devs along with similar atmosphere/playstyle. Those might not be hidden gems but they are really great games that aren't really appreciated enough imo because they were released on the WiiU which didn't do well.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Been playing a lot of NEO Scavenger lately, very addicting. I love the survival element to it, where I can build shelters out of various items that I find out and about. I love being able to start fires with scavenged wood, or putting together a sled to let me carry more items. The health system is pretty basic, but it adds a tonne of immersion. Boiling my bloody rags so I've got clean rags to put on my wounds is nice.

I've tried finding games similar to this, and I stumbled on Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, but it's not really scratching that same itch. AFAIK, you don't have a "health panel" that lets you assess your wounds. I can't apply bandages to cuts.

UnReal World is another game very similar to what I'm after. I love becoming self sufficient and more lethal as time passes, and having a little homebase stocked to the brim with survival gear. So any games like NEO Scavenger or UnReal World?

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


The Long Dark.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Q8ee posted:

Been playing a lot of NEO Scavenger lately, very addicting. I love the survival element to it, where I can build shelters out of various items that I find out and about. I love being able to start fires with scavenged wood, or putting together a sled to let me carry more items. The health system is pretty basic, but it adds a tonne of immersion. Boiling my bloody rags so I've got clean rags to put on my wounds is nice.

I've tried finding games similar to this, and I stumbled on Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, but it's not really scratching that same itch. AFAIK, you don't have a "health panel" that lets you assess your wounds. I can't apply bandages to cuts.

UnReal World is another game very similar to what I'm after. I love becoming self sufficient and more lethal as time passes, and having a little homebase stocked to the brim with survival gear. So any games like NEO Scavenger or UnReal World?

A couple entries in the zombie genre might do you:

7 Days to Die is a Minecraft-like, but focused more on survival and vase building. No locations damage afaik, but hunger and thirst are issues, and you can build your own structure or find and fortify one, and stock it with more and more supplies. Robust crafting system.

Project Zomboid is closer to what you might want. Isometric survival in a large city and surrounding county. Same features as above to an extent, much mire deliberate and almost plodding pace. Damage is more serious and I believe locational, though it has been a bit since I've played.

There is also Rimworld. More of a colony builder, but has all of the features you mentioned. It's a great game on its own and might do it for you.

Qubee
May 31, 2013





Thanks for reminding me I've got this game. Gonna get back into it, I haven't touched it since 2015!

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

A couple entries in the zombie genre might do you:

7 Days to Die is a Minecraft-like, but focused more on survival and vase building. No locations damage afaik, but hunger and thirst are issues, and you can build your own structure or find and fortify one, and stock it with more and more supplies. Robust crafting system.

Project Zomboid is closer to what you might want. Isometric survival in a large city and surrounding county. Same features as above to an extent, much mire deliberate and almost plodding pace. Damage is more serious and I believe locational, though it has been a bit since I've played.

There is also Rimworld. More of a colony builder, but has all of the features you mentioned. It's a great game on its own and might do it for you.

Not so much looking for a game in the zombie genre. I just love survival simulators that lets me patch my wounds up by tearing up old clothes and turning them into bandages, butchering animals, making goods out of their hides, building homes, all-around wholesome survival.

I played 7 Days to Die with friends a few months back, I found it very monotonous and grindy. We spent ages making a furnace and getting the stuff required to upgrade to iron or steel or whatever the next tier of tools was, only to discover they barely aided in resource gathering. It was a kick in the balls.

Project Zomboid is fab, and nails the health aspect I find really rewarding (boiling rags, applying sterile rags on wounds etc). I've been playing it with a friend but he gets bored after 30 minutes, so I think I'm just gonna ditch him and start my own solo game.

Rimworld also somewhat scratches the itch. I'm just waiting for v1.0 to come out, Tynan has hinted that'll be soon. Then I'll get back into it. I last played Rimworld just before the caravan patch got released.

Anything else that nails the UnReal World vibe?

TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


Q8ee posted:

Not so much looking for a game in the zombie genre. I just love survival simulators that lets me patch my wounds up by tearing up old clothes and turning them into bandages, butchering animals, making goods out of their hides, building homes, all-around wholesome survival.
[...]
Anything else that nails the UnReal World vibe?

My friend, you describe UnReal World to a T, and I share your fondness for this kind of game. :) Drop by the UrW thread sometime, it's almost dead these days, sadly :smith:

I found nothing else that scratches the survival itch that well. I'd check out the games on this list, but I did take a good look at most of them and decided that they weren't my cup of tea. Maybe The Forest or Stranded Deep are the most "similar" but still they have a distinctly "action-y" feel that IMO doesn't mesh well with the long-term survival I crave.

Edit: did you try Skyrim with the survival mods? I had plenty of fun with that, even if it's clearly not as polished as a proper survival game.

The Long Dark has too much of a "no matter what you do, you're screwed" vibe and jump scares for my tastes, it's more of a horror game than a survival sim even though some ideas are great. Everything else either has zombies or is not really about survival.

Gotta try Rimworld though, sounds really cool

TorakFade fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jan 25, 2018

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Are there any MMOs left on the market that have party-based leveling systems, where you group up with people to take down mobs? I've been watching too many animes about the power of friendship and am starting to miss the old school where you actually talked with people in the overworld because you weren't carried through the world on a flying carpet.

Simsmagic
Aug 3, 2011

im beautiful



I'm looking for a low-intensity, non-competitive game that I can drop in and out of without too much commitment. Something along the lines of Animal Crossing where you can just hop in, do some chores and leave whenever. I'm not really interested in farming games like Stardew Valley or Harvest Moon because I already have my fill of those, and I'd like something even slower paced than that if it makes sense.

Unreal_One
Aug 18, 2010

Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.

Simsmagic posted:

I'm looking for a low-intensity, non-competitive game that I can drop in and out of without too much commitment. Something along the lines of Animal Crossing where you can just hop in, do some chores and leave whenever. I'm not really interested in farming games like Stardew Valley or Harvest Moon because I already have my fill of those, and I'd like something even slower paced than that if it makes sense.

Factorio set to peaceful would be a good choice for this; it is precisely as fast as you want it to be.

Eela6
May 25, 2007
Shredded Hen

Simsmagic posted:

I'm looking for a low-intensity, non-competitive game that I can drop in and out of without too much commitment. Something along the lines of Animal Crossing where you can just hop in, do some chores and leave whenever. I'm not really interested in farming games like Stardew Valley or Harvest Moon because I already have my fill of those, and I'd like something even slower paced than that if it makes sense.

Do you like puzzle games?

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Unreal_One posted:

Factorio set to peaceful would be a good choice for this; it is precisely as fast as you want it to be.

"that I can drop in and out of without too much commitment"

Factorio is the polar opposite. Factorio sinks its teeth into you and makes you it's bitch. You'll be addicted and unable to stop playing.

Rock Puncher
Jul 26, 2014

TorakFade posted:

My friend, you describe UnReal World to a T, and I share your fondness for this kind of game. :) Drop by the UrW thread sometime, it's almost dead these days, sadly :smith:

I found nothing else that scratches the survival itch that well. I'd check out the games on this list, but I did take a good look at most of them and decided that they weren't my cup of tea. Maybe The Forest or Stranded Deep are the most "similar" but still they have a distinctly "action-y" feel that IMO doesn't mesh well with the long-term survival I crave.

Edit: did you try Skyrim with the survival mods? I had plenty of fun with that, even if it's clearly not as polished as a proper survival game.

The Long Dark has too much of a "no matter what you do, you're screwed" vibe and jump scares for my tastes, it's more of a horror game than a survival sim even though some ideas are great. Everything else either has zombies or is not really about survival.

Gotta try Rimworld though, sounds really cool

I disagree on the long dark, you can easily survive for 1000's of days in that game if you want to (you don't). You can also play pilgrim if it's too spooky. Although I don't know how that works with the aurora thing they've added that makes the beasties go a bit ham. Just don't play interloper if you don't want to feel like you're fighting a losing battle. The rest of the difficulties are very manageable and you can easily get to a point where you feel like you could sustain for a very long time, you will end up wanting to challenge yourself once you get to that point. There's also custom difficulties these days if you really want to make it a walking sim.

Rimworld is good though.

Q8ee posted:

"that I can drop in and out of without too much commitment"

Factorio is the polar opposite. Factorio sinks its teeth into you and makes you it's bitch. You'll be addicted and unable to stop playing.

I find it a high stress environment, constantly trying to optimize everything until I burn out, usually within a couple of hours. I like the idea though but my brain is wired wrong. I really want to get to a point where I can sit and do nothing but it never comes so I'm running around like a mad man constantly.



I'm not sure why Pillars of Eternity came up, but if you like those isometric RPGs there is simply none better than planescape torment. Just go wisdom/intelligence/charisma and have fun! The enhanced edition that came out recently makes lots of things better.

Rock Puncher fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jan 27, 2018

Simsmagic
Aug 3, 2011

im beautiful



Unreal_One posted:

Factorio set to peaceful would be a good choice for this; it is precisely as fast as you want it to be.

I've had my eye on Factorio for some time, though I feel like it's the kind of game where I'll spend 7-8 hours on it in a single day and end up getting burnt out for a while. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I do that sort of thing all the time with different games, my last game was Minecraft with a modpack specifically meant to play on peaceful so I'll definitely consider it. Thanks for the suggestion :)

Eela6 posted:

Do you like puzzle games?

I don't hate them, but I'm not sure it's what I have in mind. My ideal game would be one that I can pull up when I'm tired after work and play while having a stream or something on in the background. Puzzle games could qualify for this but the first thing that comes to mind is picross, and while I love picross I never play it at home; only when I'm bored somewhere else.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Simsmagic posted:

I'm looking for a low-intensity, non-competitive game that I can drop in and out of without too much commitment. Something along the lines of Animal Crossing where you can just hop in, do some chores and leave whenever. I'm not really interested in farming games like Stardew Valley or Harvest Moon because I already have my fill of those, and I'd like something even slower paced than that if it makes sense.

Both Staxel and My Portia came out in Early Access this week. My Portia seems to be the more popular but both have Very Positive reviews. I'm liking My Portia better as well.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Lorini posted:

Both Staxel and My Portia came out in Early Access this week. My Portia seems to be the more popular but both have Very Positive reviews. I'm liking My Portia better as well.

Portia was honestly terrible. Voice acting was such low quality, the game is buggy, the game loop is very, very shallow and not enjoyable. Everything is locked behind a grind or that irritating stamina bar. The progression doesn't even make sense. You're unable to harvest trees that provide hardwood, which is really important for most stuff you need to craft. So you end up having to spam crappy furniture over and over and selling it for pennies until you have enough money to buy the stuff required for an upgraded axe that can chop hardwood trees. I quit before I reached that point as it wasn't enjoyable.

I genuinely would not recommend.

Qubee fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jan 27, 2018

Rock Puncher
Jul 26, 2014
Subnautica might be worth checking out for chill survival, I haven't played it myself but I've heard good things.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Rock Puncher posted:

Subnautica might be worth checking out for chill survival, I haven't played it myself but I've heard good things.

Subnautica is great, and you can hop in and out anytime, but I wouldn't class it as chill. It's kind of a thriller. Sea creatures are scary as hell and when they sneak up on you when you're in the pitch dark depths, it can make a little bit of poo come out.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
Yeah the first time I ever felt claustrophobia was playing Subnautica.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




there used to be an old game (maybe 2000-2010) that basically put you in the role of a commander. RTS style. You'd have your usual units, but it had a really awesome food mechanic, you'd have to send supply lines (donkeys, I think?) that were really vulnerable to attack to forts for restocking. This would let your men eat and have full stats, and survive sieges longer. A valid tactic was to send raiding parties to attack supply lines, and then siege the forts and starve the units out.

I can't remember what it was called, but I loved that mechanic. You'd actually have to send escorts with your supply lines to keep them safe.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
I only have money for one game (if that): should I get Celeste or Iconoclasts? I really enjoy SMB-esque platformers and Metroidvanias alike so genre alone isn't enough to make the decision, and if I had to choose one single feature as a tiebreaker I'd probably go with "whichever's longer" but I'd like to hear whatever arguments y'all have for either.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
For what it's worth Iconoclasts is super depressing and sad and it intrudes on the fun of the game a bit.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Super disagree; it's depressing and sad and elevates the game incredibly

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
I like sad stories but I'm more interested in how they play and control, most of all.

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3
They're both good. I wish the music and graphics were better in Celeste, at least as good as the drawn portrait art, but the puzzles are challenging and the game feels great. Get both or ask yourself which sounds more appealing: a more linear adventure with characters, going through a story, and crunchy over the top combat or a more subdued, pure platformer. If you want the challenge of akin to the harder screens of Ori and the Blind Forest or Super Meatboy then Celeste might do it for you.

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.

Q8ee posted:

Portia was honestly terrible. Voice acting was such low quality, the game is buggy, the game loop is very, very shallow and not enjoyable. Everything is locked behind a grind or that irritating stamina bar. The progression doesn't even make sense. You're unable to harvest trees that provide hardwood, which is really important for most stuff you need to craft. So you end up having to spam crappy furniture over and over and selling it for pennies until you have enough money to buy the stuff required for an upgraded axe that can chop hardwood trees. I quit before I reached that point as it wasn't enjoyable.

I genuinely would not recommend.

Did you miss the entire giant mandatory tutorial that tells you it's best to make money by doing commission jobs instead of by selling stuff or what? I literally got the upgraded axe on day 3.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Mzbundifund posted:

Did you miss the entire giant mandatory tutorial that tells you it's best to make money by doing commission jobs instead of by selling stuff or what? I literally got the upgraded axe on day 3.

All the commissions I was given required stuff I was unable to get. One guy wanted me to make him 7 cooked steaks, which I thought would be easy. But grinding the gold to access the dungeon took a while, and I was getting barely any copper. Another guy wanted me to make glass. Like how are you meant to do commissions when you can't even access any of the dungeons.

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa
Trying to choose between Horizon Zero Dawn, Assassin's Creed Origins and Shadow of War. What do reckon I should play next, guys? What order would you go for?

Also, do any of these games offer any graphical advantages on a PS4 Pro on a 1080p screen? Any advantage to buying a PS4 Pro, basically, given my TV?

I am getting a 4K screen hopefully some time this year, so maybe the better they look in 4K the further down the list they should be.

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3
Shadow of War doesn't really hold its end of the bargain for how much it asks of you and gets more tedious the more you progress. HZD is absolutely gorgeous and manages to stay interesting despite being another open world game with crafting and hunting. Very beatable and enjoyable. ACO is at least the best AssCreed in a long time by shedding or marginalizing a lot of the complaints of the previous games, as well as riffing off what Witcher 3 did wrt putting more weight into sidequests and a good cast of characters. I don't think you could go wrong with either of those two.

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get
I just finished the most recent Phoenix Wright and I'm a huge fan of all the PW games, so I'm looking for something new to play. Preferably something not twitch based, with a lot of cool characters and fun twists. Ghost Trick is also a favorite of mine. Any suggestions?

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Lechtansi posted:

I just finished the most recent Phoenix Wright and I'm a huge fan of all the PW games, so I'm looking for something new to play. Preferably something not twitch based, with a lot of cool characters and fun twists. Ghost Trick is also a favorite of mine. Any suggestions?

danganronpa

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


OneSizeFitsAll posted:

Trying to choose between Horizon Zero Dawn, Assassin's Creed Origins and Shadow of War. What do reckon I should play next, guys? What order would you go for?

Also, do any of these games offer any graphical advantages on a PS4 Pro on a 1080p screen? Any advantage to buying a PS4 Pro, basically, given my TV?

I am getting a 4K screen hopefully some time this year, so maybe the better they look in 4K the further down the list they should be.

the ps4 pro's only real improvement is that it can play 4k video. game improvements are minor (slight fps increase). Not worth the upgrade on a 1080p tv.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Lechtansi posted:

I just finished the most recent Phoenix Wright and I'm a huge fan of all the PW games, so I'm looking for something new to play. Preferably something not twitch based, with a lot of cool characters and fun twists. Ghost Trick is also a favorite of mine. Any suggestions?

You've played the Zero Escape series, right? 999, Virtue's Last Reward, etc.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


OneSizeFitsAll posted:

Trying to choose between Horizon Zero Dawn, Assassin's Creed Origins and Shadow of War. What do reckon I should play next, guys? What order would you go for?

Also, do any of these games offer any graphical advantages on a PS4 Pro on a 1080p screen? Any advantage to buying a PS4 Pro, basically, given my TV?

I am getting a 4K screen hopefully some time this year, so maybe the better they look in 4K the further down the list they should be.

Most Pro-enhanced games will offer supersampling at 1080p so that you'll get a sharper picture even without 4k. The rest are marginal improvements like slightly better framerates, more detailed shaders and ambient occlusion, little things that aren't exactly dealbreakers. Horizon Zero Dawn for instance runs at a rock solid 30fps even on base hardware. It's also the game I would most recommend because it owns!

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

Lechtansi posted:

I just finished the most recent Phoenix Wright and I'm a huge fan of all the PW games, so I'm looking for something new to play. Preferably something not twitch based, with a lot of cool characters and fun twists. Ghost Trick is also a favorite of mine. Any suggestions?

There's a fun FMV game on steam called Contradiction about solving a murder in a small british town which is PW-like. Pretty fun, although fair warning i found the ending disappointing.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Lechtansi posted:

I just finished the most recent Phoenix Wright and I'm a huge fan of all the PW games, so I'm looking for something new to play. Preferably something not twitch based, with a lot of cool characters and fun twists. Ghost Trick is also a favorite of mine. Any suggestions?

Seconding Danganronpa 1 and 2 and the Zero Escape games. Some of the best mystery type games.

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa
Thanks for the comments. Definitely won't bother with a Pro until I get the new TV then. Might also wait until then for Horizon Zero Dawn since it sounds like it's the best-looking game of the three. Will plump for one of the other two next.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.
I jumped on the Diablo 3 train at exactly the right time about a month ago and it's been a good friend since then. But I've started to feel the first twinges of burnout and decided to give it a rest until the next season kicks in. I could really use something new to keep my brain occupied in the meantime.

The main problem is that it ideally needs to have A) wordy storytelling kept to a minimum, B) light action at most, no blazing fast shooters, and C) absolute minimal frustration factor. And unfortunately those three things pretty much instantly rule out like 90+% of games I can think of off the top of my head. I feel like even something otherwise pleasant like Stardew Valley is going to have a bit too much to worry about to grab me. Puzzle games are usually my go-to in situations like this, but they're super hit or miss when it comes to frustration factor and I've pretty much exhausted evergreen options like picross. Also not currently interested in HOGs.

Oh, and I'm not after a different ARPG to swap to. That way lies madness.

Edit: Oh yeah, should probably specify PC-only.

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Jan 31, 2018

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Brigador comes to mind, given that you can slow it down.

Euro Truck Sim 2, Everyday Genius Squarelogic, Dungeonmans, X3 Terran Conflict...

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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Brainamp posted:

Seconding Danganronpa 1 and 2 and the Zero Escape games. Some of the best mystery type games.

The Zero Escape games are great and the whole trilogy is on Steam. However, if you have the opportunity, play the first Zero Escape on the DS (or pop the DS kart into the 3DS). Don't go out of your way to find it; it's worth it wherever you play, but the DS version has a nice touch or two which the ports couldn't get across.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I only have money for one game (if that): should I get Celeste or Iconoclasts? I really enjoy SMB-esque platformers and Metroidvanias alike so genre alone isn't enough to make the decision, and if I had to choose one single feature as a tiebreaker I'd probably go with "whichever's longer" but I'd like to hear whatever arguments y'all have for either.

See if you can play the free game Jumper or Jumper 2 (the ones that star the red square Ogmo, in case there are other games with that title). If you like that, Celeste is basically an evolution of that (made by the same guy, in fact). Haven't played Iconoclasts but it's a Metroidvania so you probably more or less know what you're in for with that.

Argue fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jan 31, 2018

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