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ate all the Oreos posted:like fake as in nobody acknowledges bi people as existing ("you're just confused!") or fake as in you personally feel like a fake cuz you're married? both i guess. i've run into a lot of supposed lgbt spaces where people claimed that bi people don't exist and i also sometimes feel like it doesn't matter that i am bi because to the outside world i look exactly like a straight guy.
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TheManFromFOXHOUND posted:both i guess. i've run into a lot of supposed lgbt spaces where people claimed that bi people don't exist bi erasure is real hosed up yo. are we talkin' internet spaces or real life? bi people definitely exist, there's like 8 of them in this thread (including me)  TheManFromFOXHOUND posted:and i also sometimes feel like it doesn't matter that i am bi because to the outside world i look exactly like a straight guy. i know this is easier said than done but don't worry about what the outside world thinks of you, you're attracted to what you're attracted to and whatever the hell you "look like" to the rest of the world doesn't change that. also if you'd like to talk about it or personally flex your bi-ness in this thread i'm sure we'd be happy to talk, i know back when i was feeling real confused and not really fully "engaged" in my own sexuality, talking about it with like-minded people always helped me reassert myself to... myself i guess? 
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ate all the Oreos posted:bi erasure is real hosed up yo. are we talkin' internet spaces or real life? bi people definitely exist, there's like 8 of them in this thread (including me) It's 9 is you include us pan people 
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Avenging_Mikon posted:I’m going to dip my toes in and change my hairstyle to minimize my massive widows peak and grow it out nicely. See how it feels. Shaving is such a pain in the rear end either way that I’m considering laser hair removal no matter what happens. i need to look into that poo poo too, at some point. that and maybe braiding my hair. it's long enough to do that now, i think
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i've had long hair for a while to try to be a bit more androgynous cuz i'd like to think i'm moderately genderfluid but i'm also a fat nerd so a lot of the time it just looks like gross fat nerd hair 
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TheManFromFOXHOUND posted:did you write a medium post along the same lines as this or am i having deja vu? Yeah I wrote a short post but it's focus was different (and less detailed, I've had more time to think about this stuff)
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Glazier posted:It's 9 is you include us pan people i think "bi" is code for "pan but everyone knows what it means" (maybe???)
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atomicthumbs posted:i think "bi" is code for "pan but everyone knows what it means" Works for me!
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atomicthumbs posted:i think "bi" is code for "pan but everyone knows what it means" For most people itt probably, but I've met irl people who were very serious about their bi identity being exclusionary of trans people. Idgi but they were very dead set that they only suck dick if it's attached to a man bod and pussy havers should not have body hair.
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yeah there's plenty of people who are very adamant about their guy on guy dick sucking being 100% heteronormative which is super weird
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cis autodrag posted:If you're wondering, I have to sleep on my back for 5 more weeks and it's really loving with my sleep does it help to put pillows all around you and maybe under your legs?
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That's always been the way I understood bi / pan though. Like bi only interested in cis guys or girls, and pan is anything goes.
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Glazier posted:It's 9 is you include us pan people idk why, but "pan people" made me lol irl im more of a skillet person, but you do you
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Synthbuttrange posted:That's always been the way I understood bi / pan though. Like bi only interested in cis guys or girls, and pan is anything goes. i've never met someone that was bi that was exclusively interested in cis people and wasn't also into trans/nb peeps
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cis autodrag posted:For most people itt probably, but I've met irl people who were very serious about their bi identity being exclusionary of trans people. Idgi but they were very dead set that they only suck dick if it's attached to a man bod and pussy havers should not have body hair. fuckin terbs
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Helianthus Annuus posted:idk why, but "pan people" made me lol irl Funnily enough my pan flag sticker on my car actually has a skillet on it just cause I was tired of that loving joke. 🤣
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oh btw i never got a chance to tell you that I really liked this editorial style you came up with to deal with a pronoun changeGlazier posted:If I was running a news organization the style we would use would be to keep the quotes but disclaim and make clear we altered the pronouns or deadname. For example “Back when I first met [Stewart], [he] had the well earned reputation of being a hard worker.” it's concise, it keeps the context clear, and its respectful to the subject. its everything i ever wanted  also it reminds me of that thread a while ago with a guy claiming to be an alien. he would use this exact same style when talking about alien concepts that didn't translate very well. i dunno where the original thread is, but someone put all the content here http://mrboone.kequc.com/ one of my favorite threads, even though its fake (probably)
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Helianthus Annuus posted:oh btw i never got a chance to tell you that I really liked this editorial style you came up with to deal with a pronoun change thanks, I wish I got to write as much as I did when I was in college, but I just don’t have the time anymore. 
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Jan 22, 2018 23:53
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Synthbuttrange posted:That's always been the way I understood bi / pan though. Like bi only interested in cis guys or girls, and pan is anything goes. I think these days most people use bi and pan interchangeably, but there is some subset of people using the label bi specifically because they are trans exclusionary. They're stupid assholes ruining the word bi for all the cool bisexual people out there.
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it would have never occurred to me before that people would use bi as trans exclusionary.
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it works out because when you see one of those trans-exclusive jerks you can say "bi bi" and walk away  (i hope this joke isn't panned too heavily)
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Zamujasa posted:it works out because when you see one of those trans-exclusive jerks you can say "bi bi" and walk away You forgot one bi 
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Glazier posted:You forgot one bi it ain't no lie i also thought of that. but mainly thought of the tv commercial for darren's dance moves.
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interview for a job i pretty much don't want tomorrow woo no idea how im going to dress, even trans aside my interview clothes are a mess
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good luck regardless. I’m eyeing the exit from my current job not because I dislike it (the opposite actually) rather there’s some culture poo poo going on at levels above me that’s making me extremely uncomfortable. At least I have something while I look for something new.
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UberJew posted:interview for a job i pretty much don't want tomorrow woo Always worth it just for practice!
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TheManFromFOXHOUND posted:both i guess. i've run into a lot of supposed lgbt spaces where people claimed that bi people don't exist and i also sometimes feel like it doesn't matter that i am bi because to the outside world i look exactly like a straight guy. coming out is a continuous process. i mean I'm pretty fruity, but i still have to come out to people when they mistake me for heterosexual. i mean i get "brothers?" when i'm out with my family because that's the schema people have for three dudes going grocery shopping and not keeping 15 feet between them at all times.
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ultravoices posted:coming out is a continuous process. i mean I'm pretty fruity, but i still have to come out to people when they mistake me for heterosexual. Do you get asked if you're splitting the check every time you go out for dinner too? That poo poo drives me crazy. Waiter will watch you hold hands and still ask like they need to let you know you're violating their norms.
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ate all the Oreos posted:bi erasure is real hosed up yo. are we talkin' internet spaces or real life? bi people definitely exist, there's like 8 of them in this thread (including me) bi people definitely outnumber (i think the numbers bandied about lately are 3-4x) the purely homo oriented, and not just in this thread.
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cis autodrag posted:Do you get asked if you're splitting the check every time you go out for dinner too? That poo poo drives me crazy. Waiter will watch you hold hands and still ask like they need to let you know you're violating their norms. They ask that when I’m out for dinner with my mother. ...do they think I’m dating my mom? 
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cis autodrag posted:Do you get asked if you're splitting the check every time you go out for dinner too? That poo poo drives me crazy. Waiter will watch you hold hands and still ask like they need to let you know you're violating their norms. oh every single time. it doesn't really bother me though, i just assume that it's easier to smash the split check button as early as possible in the POS process. i handle the money 90% of the time, so it is a little funny when someone makes a comment about how nice i am to take my buddies out.
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ultravoices posted:bi people definitely outnumber (i think the numbers bandied about lately are 3-4x) the purely homo oriented, and not just in this thread.
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TheManFromFOXHOUND posted:i've actually wondered if bi/pan people might actually outnumber heteros too, but i don't think there are stats to support that. the kinsey scale is probably discredited somehow by now but i'd bet that there are more people who would score between 1 and 5 than people at 0 or 6, yes
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Avenging_Mikon posted:They ask that when I’m out for dinner with my mother. What are you doing
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ultravoices posted:oh every single time. it doesn't really bother me though, i just assume that it's easier to smash the split check button as early as possible in the POS process. I'm not sure about that, because in the 8 years of my relationship before I transitioned we were never asked once about check splitting and it immediately started happening every time once I presented female
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cis autodrag posted:I'm not sure about that, because in the 8 years of my relationship before I transitioned we were never asked once about check splitting and it immediately started happening every time once I presented female maybe i'm just giving myself a charitable explanation of other's behavior to keep from noticing.
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ultravoices posted:maybe i'm just giving myself a charitable explanation of other's behavior to keep from noticing. Fair
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Sagebrush posted:the kinsey scale is probably discredited somehow by now but i'd bet that there are more people who would score between 1 and 5 than people at 0 or 6, yes once i learned that for a lot lot lot lot of guys homosexual desire is decoupled from homoromantic desire everything became so much clearer.
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