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Professor Latency posted:Man archwing sucks. Someone hasn’t tried Itzal yet
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
None of that's too bad individually, rubedo and plastids might take a bit though. Don't be afraid to ask for help if there's something you want to prioritize.
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Jan 23, 2018 17:56
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
Just play the game and shoot mans with your space ninja and that stuff will sort itself out.
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Jan 23, 2018 17:56
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As a new guy, how concerned should I be with going for Prime variants of frames over the base (where available)? Are Prime versions strictly boosts to survivability stuff (health, armor, shields) and energy, or do abilities get stronger as well? Is it sort of a waste to build and potato a base frame if there’s a (relatively) easy/cheap to acquire Prime version out there?
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Jan 23, 2018 18:07
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Helter Skelter posted:None of that's too bad individually, rubedo and plastids might take a bit though. Don't be afraid to ask for help if there's something you want to prioritize. Lumpy posted:Just play the game and shoot mans with your space ninja and that stuff will sort itself out. Yeah I'm just going along the way of starchart and not sweating too much about farm. Was just curious if things like Orokin Cells or Argon are still massive rear end to find for newbies.
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Jan 23, 2018 18:10
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Traitorous Leopard posted:Is it sort of a waste to build and potato a base frame if there’s a (relatively) easy/cheap to acquire Prime version out there? It's not a waste to build, no - mastery rank. Potato, probably? I built Frost and used it just long enough to get to 30 (thanks hydron run) and then traded it in because I had Frost Prime. I'm deliberately not throwing potato/forma in my Ember because Ember Prime is getting unvaulted soon and I want it. cinci zoo sniper posted:Yeah I'm just going along the way of starchart and not sweating too much about farm. Was just curious if things like Orokin Cells or Argon are still massive rear end to find for newbies. argon is just run void missions, and you can get carried through a survival or something and get plenty, even Teshub exterms can net you 1-2 most runs if you're careful about checking side rooms. Yesterday I got twenty (with a booster) in one void survival run and then had to figure out how to spend them all at once. I managed, but now I'm broke and Baro is coming back soon, so ....i'm also dumb  o-cells are my nemesis because I always, always need more. But they're pretty straightforward to get in small quantities (farm bosses) and in big ones someone else probably knows the best farm spot. Psion fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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Jan 23, 2018 18:13
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Yeah I'm just going along the way of starchart and not sweating too much about farm. Was just curious if things like Orokin Cells or Argon are still massive rear end to find for newbies. By the time I got to Saturn I had a pretty big surplus of OCells along with everything else on your list and no longer had to farm. Argon decays, you lose half of it every 24 hours or something ridiculous like that, so it will always require a farm. You can get 1-2 by running a survival void mission and just opening everything you encounter. You didn't list Neurodes but they'll eventually become a problem- run defense missions on earth to get 5 or 6 out of 15 waves or so. Other than that, Nitain Extract will be the biggest bottleneck and you can only get that from alerts, so keep an eye out for those. I'm betting Tellurium is the same way but I haven't got any recipes that actually require it yet.
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Jan 23, 2018 18:18
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Traitorous Leopard posted:As a new guy, how concerned should I be with going for Prime variants of frames over the base (where available)? Are Prime versions strictly boosts to survivability stuff (health, armor, shields) and energy, or do abilities get stronger as well? Is it sort of a waste to build and potato a base frame if there’s a (relatively) easy/cheap to acquire Prime version out there? Prime variants merely have better base stats like health, move speed, armor, etc and some more polarities. And they’re fancy as hell. Other than that, no difference. Abilities are the same.
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Jan 23, 2018 18:24
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Re: Prime frames. You also should keep in mind some prime frames are vaulted, so getting those is tricky (or expensive).
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Traitorous Leopard posted:As a new guy, how concerned should I be with going for Prime variants of frames over the base (where available)? Are Prime versions strictly boosts to survivability stuff (health, armor, shields) and energy, or do abilities get stronger as well? Is it sort of a waste to build and potato a base frame if there’s a (relatively) easy/cheap to acquire Prime version out there? Prime frames have upgraded stats like health, armor, shields, or energy and sometimes things like sprint speed I think. The powers are the same. They do usually start with a couple more polarized slots than the base so kitting them out doesn't require as man forma. Its never a waste to build and level a frame since they give you mastery, but if you can get the prime easily its probably not a great idea to potato and forma the non-prime. But its not like you are permanently crippling yourself if you spend 20 plat on a potato and then sell the frame in a couple weeks. And then you have the frame to play with while you farm for the prime. cinci zoo sniper posted:
You'll get most of this without a problem just playing. O Cells, Argon, and Neural Sensors you will probably have to specifically go after and probably on planets you don't have unlocked at MR3. Ask goons for help and none of that will take too long. I'm MR22 and constantly out of O Cells and polymers since they seem to be used in abundance for everything I still need to make so don't think you are an imposition if you ask for help farming. One important thing to know is Argon Crystals decay over time. "A full 24 hours from when you acquire it and then when GMT 00:00 hits is when it’s considered in its decaying period." is when they go away so don't go farming them until you are just about ready to use them or you might find yourself having to farm them again when you finally have the rest of the mats you need. People say to do void defense for argon but I find its faster to do an exterm and bring an ignis and break every container. Also always be on the lookout for rare resource nodes in missions. They look like a big pile of whatever resource it is and will drop 1-4 of them when broken. They spawn fairly often, especially in assassination missions. Its probably not worth scouring every room for them but as you do the mission keep an eye out.
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Jan 23, 2018 18:33
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Thank you all for resource tips!
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Jan 23, 2018 18:42
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Edmond Dantes posted:That's my default loadout unless I'm doing something specific like a spy mission or a restricted sortie. I'm up to Sandweed posted:Why not both? I'm constantly out of Orokin Cells, so I'm struggling to actually to gather up enough to chain build forma. I'll just trickle build it like you say.
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Jan 23, 2018 19:08
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Sarsapariller posted:By the time I got to Saturn I had a pretty big surplus of OCells along with everything else on your list and no longer had to farm. Argon decays, you lose half of it every 24 hours or something ridiculous like that, so it will always require a farm. You can get 1-2 by running a survival void mission and just opening everything you encounter. You didn't list Neurodes but they'll eventually become a problem- run defense missions on earth to get 5 or 6 out of 15 waves or so. Other than that, Nitain Extract will be the biggest bottleneck and you can only get that from alerts, so keep an eye out for those. I'm betting Tellurium is the same way but I haven't got any recipes that actually require it yet. Tellurium drops from archwing missions
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Jan 23, 2018 19:09
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RFC2324 posted:Tellurium drops from archwing missions Also Uranus (the hybrid ones, but you it can drop 'on land').
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Thanks folks, I’m trying to figure out what frame #3 should be after Rhino and Excal and I really like the look of Ash and Saryn, but it seems like both have Prime “sets” on Warframe.market for less than 100 plat each (unless I’m missing something here). I’ll prolly grab those!
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Jan 23, 2018 19:31
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Pretty sure also Mariana on Earth can as well since it is the sealab tileset.
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Jan 23, 2018 19:31
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Thank you all for resource tips! At some point you'll also suddenly find you need Nitain Extract, which basically seems only to be available as a specific reward for alert missions. If you find yourself bored / wanting a quick pubbie dash mission as some light relief / whatever, it's worth doing those occasionally so you have some in stock. Otherwise, when you need to build something that needs five of the fuckers, it'll take you ages to farm enough alerts. I found this out the hard way.
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Jan 23, 2018 19:38
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Also: if I buy the starter pack, it comes with an xp and resource booster - do those start as soon as I buy the thing or can I “activate” them whenever?
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Jan 23, 2018 19:51
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Those start as soon as you log in after buying it.
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Jan 23, 2018 19:55
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The "Starter Pack" is kinda ehhhh to be honest. Wait until you get a 75% off and grab 1000 plat for 12.50; the resource boosters are nice but not necessary, and the clan goons can give you any mod you'd get from it.
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Edmond Dantes posted:The "Starter Pack" is kinda ehhhh to be honest. Wait until you get a 75% off and grab 1000 plat for 12.50; the resource boosters are nice but not necessary, and the clan goons can give you any mod you'd get from it. Yea not having control over those boosters makes it seem less cool. Are there prescribed days you get 75% off coupons? Assuming you’re referring to the daily login bonus. E: some googling shows it as random actually, so I’ll get it when I get it I guess! Traitorous Leopard fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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Re: Zephyr, DE has stated that Zephyr and Atlas are getting reworks, and that internal builds of those reworks are already being tested internally. No information given about the confirmation of the reworks, but there is some doubt that the changes to each will be as sweeping as they need to be since they’ve apparently stated they no longer intend to junk whole abilities like they did for Excal. We will probably get those with Khora and the next big thing quest, which may or may not finally be Umbra poo poo, soon ish (best guess, next week or the week after). Damage 2.5 likely in spring, I think anyway, and then Venus open world zone in the summer, but at their pace I’m guessing that means after Labor Day.
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the only change i want for atlas is for power range to affect dash distance for landslide
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What was the ability of excals that got junked? Wasn't it just like a big jump? I've been trying to remember this for weeks.
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Traitorous Leopard posted:Yea not having control over those boosters makes it seem less cool. Are there prescribed days you get 75% off coupons? Assuming you’re referring to the daily login bonus. No, it's super random and pretty rare. You will get more 20% and 50% coupons than you know what to do with but might go months without seeing a 75%. I've been figuring I'd throw 10-20 bux in if I get one but I've seen nothing so far.
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Invisible Ted posted:What was the ability of excals that got junked? Wasn't it just like a big jump? I've been trying to remember this for weeks. It was, indeed, Super Jump. It was, indeed, bloody pointless.
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Jan 23, 2018 21:37
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Serpentis posted:It was, indeed, Super Jump. Every fifteen seconds.
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Maxwell Adams posted:They really do. Check out the bottom of a warframes feet sometime in captura, they're insanely detailed. There are also letters from Tenno/Orokin language which you will never ever notice and they actually say poo poo. Like on Loki's thigh he has "Tenno Model 2100N serial 148-H" written in Orokin. And you know the flowery things flying around enemies mind-controlled by Nyx? That's Orokin for "obey". Also speaking of which, Dual Gremlins have "BULLETS FOR YOUR FACE" written in Grineer on their magazines
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SSNeoman posted:Also speaking of which, Dual Gremlins have "BULLETS FOR YOUR FACE" written in Grineer on their magazines why do people think this game is bad
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maybe because the gun no one uses to provide bullet-based services to grineer faces is the one with that message
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Yeah but telling a newbie "with my tens of thousands of hours of in game experience and GDP of Latvia in platinum, I can make every frame work" is less than useful more often than not. the only frame id describe as bad is wukong and that's not because he can't do content (he can't die) he's just boring (upside is he is a dojoframe) that said im sure there is someone out there that mains wukong and im happy for them
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Jan 24, 2018 03:22
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Once upon a time twin gremlins were hot poo poo, and I silently pray for a good riven for it
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Berke Negri posted:the only frame id describe as bad is wukong and that's not because he can't do content (he can't die) he's just boring (upside is he is a dojoframe) There are very few frames which are truly bad. There are several underpowered frames, but even they have their own upsides and fun gimmicks. Atlas, for example, is pretty underpowered and has only one good ability but it's a doozy of an ability. Wukong is actually pretty typical of a bad Warframe-they have one good, often fairly powerful ability (Defy in Wukong's case) and have nothing else going for them. It doesn't mean they can't do content, it means that they're one-trick ponies who flail outside of their niche.
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Zoig posted:I'm probably the only guy that still likes zephyr and that's because her passive is just having low gravity all the time, I literally don't use any ability other then turbulence unless i'm messing around which should probably tell you everything you need to know about zephyr.  Also maxxing out duration as best as I can so I can Tail Wind into the sky on the plains and pretend the Earth is covered in tiny, angry, Grineer-shaped ants, then floating down in super slo-mo in a John Wu-style glide only to land, softy and gracefully, with a GIANT EXPLOSION.Zephyr is probably my favorite frame.
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Berke Negri posted:the only frame id describe as bad is wukong and that's not because he can't do content (he can't die) he's just boring (upside is he is a dojoframe) Well, they just discovered that by exploiting how Wukong's iron jab augment damage booster works and using a glaive with Power Throw, you could wipe out an entire map. And yourself.
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hup posted:Once upon a time twin gremlins were hot poo poo, and I silently pray for a good riven for it I, too, wish for a good riven, solely because they're MOTHERFUCKING NAIL GUNS. Of course I want them to be amazing! I need to work out a coloring scheme to make them look at home in a construction site.
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Raptor1033 posted:I need to work out a coloring scheme Warframe.
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well good thing I'm not gonna be playing much the next 3 days, 72 hours time to build a warframe 
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Serpentis posted:It was, indeed, Super Jump. ...was it? I remember it being awesome and when I came back I played Excal for a round or two then deleted it despite it STILL being my most played from way back.
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