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New Butt Order posted:Of those three, only Durthu can stand and fight in an extended melee like Grimgor can. Kroq'gar might be able to too but Lizardmen are a bunch of fuckin nerds who can't even raid stance so who cares. They usually don't have to fight in melee's as extended because they can actually kill enemy units with their AOE.  Grimgor has to fight dudes for-loving-ever because his attack animations are wimpy and hit like one dude at a time.Also Kroq'gar on Grimloq is great, but Kroq'gar on foot is basically just Grimgor but he also gets Cold Blood and bound spells. And with Kholek's armor increase and +physical resist upgrades he's functionally immortal in campaign. And gently caress that, Lizardmen own. They're one of the 3 cool factions in the game (Lizardmen, Skaven, Tomb Kings) Zore fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Chariots aren't a flanking unit so much as an impact unit. Chariots can often go straight through a frontline with their charge and keep going to take out archers. They are valuable for combined arms because your own infantry charge is going to go much better against disordered and terrified enemy melee units.
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I will pretty much always take Grimgor in mp against dwarfs, skaven, other green skins, any other time I think I’ll be up against an infantry Lord or a high infantry army without much cavalry. Grimgor is very, very good and will beat nearly any character in the game in sustained combat. Only cycle charging by a high mass mount can defeat him. Plus he’s inexpensive.
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Zore posted:They usually don't have to fight in melee's as extended because they can actually kill enemy units with their AOE. 1v1 me at Karak 8 Peaks u bihtc
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Jan 23, 2018 22:03
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:I will pretty much always take Grimgor in mp against dwarfs, skaven, other green skins, any other time I think I’ll be up against an infantry Lord or a high infantry army without much cavalry. Grimgor is very, very good and will beat nearly any character in the game in sustained combat. Only cycle charging by a high mass mount can defeat him. Plus he’s inexpensive. I prefer Azhag because Lore of Death is so much better than the Waaagh! lores. Also his Wyvern is beastly as hell now.
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uuuuuugh khalida's start isn't so much hard as obnoxious the only major player who doesn't like you is kroq-gar and he's bribable, but if the dominos fall wrong getting your first two provinces secured is such a slog
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Jan 23, 2018 22:07
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Grimgor should have an ability you can buy in mp or unlock in single player that reflects his rising orc waaaagh power and makes him so big that he can't be knocked down.
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Zore posted:Kholek, Kroq'gar and Durthu beg to differ. Personally I can't wait until Skarbrand shows up in game 3 to show people what a real combat lord looks like 
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Ravenfood posted:Is there a good rule of thumb for judging whether a chariot unit will be able to push through an infantry line? Charging chariots into enemy infantry from the front and then following it up with your own means that you're risking trapping your chariots between the two infantry bodies if they can't push through. Do they have charge defense vs large? If not, you can make it through. If they do... You can probably make it through. It depends more how many rows deep the unit is rather than what unit you're hitting. If they get stuck there's always the "mass right click" option to get them through though you'll scratch the paint job.
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Archonex posted:I'm not sure if it's Cataph's newly updated mods, the better camera mod, or the "You can assign units to an AI general." mod that's doing this but holy poo poo is it hilarious. It's probably Cataph's, given that he covertly renamed Grombrindal to some some vaguely spanish sounding name back when people couldn't actually play as him and could only see his name in the choose your start menu. It confused the hell out of people and made them think it was the devs loving up the translation up until he chimed in and said "Yeah, that was me. Gotcha!" to calm people down. I have no Cataph mods and this is in my game as well. I really hope this is CA.
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Nothing quite as fun as getting attacked by three TK armies at once really early in the game, having Settra and 99.9% of my starting army die, and proceeding to watch as my kitty cat happily lunges and leaps through 1500 skeletons having a grand time en route to a clean victory.
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We are definitely going to need a nickname for death kitty, like Fluffy is for Mannfred's Varghulf. I shall now rename the starting sphinx "Snowball"
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Jan 23, 2018 22:14
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Mods change my name to Golden Bone Lord tia
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Just lol if you aren't stacking the absurd amount of Skeleton Archer buffs that the game throws at you as Khalida. My little undead dudes might not be the best shots in the world, but by god their hearts are in the right place.GreyjoyBastard posted:uuuuuugh khalida's start isn't so much hard as obnoxious It's much better in Vortex than Mortal Empires. I've already been at war with the Dwarfs, Skaven and Lizardmen in less than 25 turns. turn off the TV fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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AnEdgelord posted:Personally I can't wait until Skarbrand shows up in game 3 to show people what a real combat lord looks like I will be extremely disappointed in CA if Skarsbrand’s gimmick isn’t “literally the strongest single unit in the game but also completely unable to be controlled”. Maybe not friendly fire but he should just charge the first loving enemy immediately every fight.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I will be extremely disappointed in CA if Skarsbrand’s gimmick isn’t “literally the strongest single unit in the game but also completely unable to be controlled”. Maybe not friendly fire but he should just charge the first loving enemy immediately every fight. His murderlust is also contagious in the lore so he should have something similar to the witchelves but even more ridiculous
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turn off the TV posted:Just lol if you aren't stacking the absurd amount of Skeleton Archer buffs that the game throws at you as Khalida. My little undead dudes might not be the best shots in the world, but by god their hearts are in the right place. a bunch of jars in the palace cellar
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Ravenfood posted:Is there a good rule of thumb for judging whether a chariot unit will be able to push through an infantry line? Charging chariots into enemy infantry from the front and then following it up with your own means that you're risking trapping your chariots between the two infantry bodies if they can't push through. Charge defense against large and high mass units are things you want to avoid. Chariots are quite good about pushing through normal infantry though.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I will be extremely disappointed in CA if Skarsbrand’s gimmick isn’t “literally the strongest single unit in the game but also completely unable to be controlled”. Maybe not friendly fire but he should just charge the first loving enemy immediately every fight. Seems pretty easy to immediately trigger Rampage at the start of a fight now that Rampage is a feature. Arglebargle III posted:Charge defense against large and high mass units are things you want to avoid.
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Funny note about Arkhan the Black. He had that name while he was alive. You see, he gained it for the color of his teeth. Even among desert-dwelling bronze aged pseudoegyptians his grasp on dental hygiene was legendarily shaky.
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So what is the secret to Chariot dominance? Just give them move actions through the enemy mass, or do you actually go with attack actions and order them to retreat as soon as they finish charging?
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What exactly triggers charge defense vs. large or vs. anything? Does the defending unit have to be facing the charger or not currently engaged in melee, or what exactly?
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Ravenfood posted:Seems pretty easy to immediately trigger Rampage at the start of a fight now that Rampage is a feature. Physically large not like a lot of guys. I think high-tier dwarves and cavalry and physically large models like tree kin all count.
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Eschatos posted:So what is the secret to Chariot dominance? Just give them move actions through the enemy mass, or do you actually go with attack actions and order them to retreat as soon as they finish charging? They are not very good at turning around, generally you want to give them a charge order and then after they impact give them a run order behind the unit you want to pull them through.
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Archonex posted:They definitely are. I'm just curious if adventuring down there does anything. Also as the Tomb Kings are there any random events that pop up like mercenary bands showing up in your lands looking to plunder?
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Mods, new thread title. Settra demands it. The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Total War: Warhammer 2 - Settra, Great King, The Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Stewart of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-Feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds the Sceptre, Great Hawk of the Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnel Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer of Redditras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of All Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of All Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Land, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds, et cetera, et cetera.  Slayer of Redditras, indeed. Comstar fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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I like how chill the tomb kings vortex campaign is. How far along are the others? Dunno. Who cares? I'm not gonna worry my pretty lil head over it. Is it even possible for the others to win? Are they competing with me at all? Settra cares not for such things.
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Comstar posted:Mods, new thread title. Settra demands it. Settra's just asking for a bunch of cossacks to mega-dunk on him.
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SirPhoebos posted:Settra's just asking for a bunch of cossacks to mega-dunk on him. The Reply of the Ungol Hetmanate to Lord Settra the Imperishable would be wonderful.
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Night10194 posted:The Reply of the Ungol Hetmanate to Lord Settra the Imperishable would be wonderful. I can only imagine they run out of burns halfway through and then it's several pages of "more like LAMEtra the ImLAMEshable" Also of Settra shouldn't have actual Tomb Kings as his special lords, just bootlickers who fight under one of his titles. Like how the Rome 2 armies all had cool names. New Butt Order fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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I assume that Arkhan does not let you make a mixed army in MP right
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Mzbundifund posted:What exactly triggers charge defense vs. large or vs. anything? Does the defending unit have to be facing the charger or not currently engaged in melee, or what exactly? Pretty sure they need to be facing the charge and not moving so they're "braced". They will animate and look ready if it works (but you're already being charged at this point).
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Eej posted:I assume that Arkhan does not let you make a mixed army in MP right I think I saw a replay where he does, actually.
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Comstar posted:Mods, new thread title. Settra demands it. I felt these 2 titles deserved highlighting. I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Yeah he does. Its just not super useful since the VC units he gets access to are kinda bad.
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Zore posted:Yeah he does. I would definitely rather have fel bats than carrion. That’s about it though.
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God drat help up in work and then car died on commute. I just want my spoopy army 
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ChickenWyngz posted:God drat help up in work and then car died on commute. I just want my spoopy army I can't wait to get home today, so much so that I will be unproductive to the point they might as well let me go now.
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