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Am I correct in reading the faction rules that a genestealer detachment can't pair up with both a tyranid and a guard detachment at the same time?
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Booyah- posted:Am I correct in reading the faction rules that a genestealer detachment can't pair up with both a tyranid and a guard detachment at the same time? They can, it was made explicit in one of the FAQs
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Jan 24, 2018 03:14
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R0ckfish posted:They can, it was made explicit in one of the FAQs Thanks, found it.
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One_Wing posted:To be absolutely clear, again - I am not trying to argue that flyers cannot move over enemy units. I am 100% happy that the intent of the rule is clear and would never propose playing it any other way. Fly units move over models and terrain as if they're not there. You don't measure the 1" from enemy models while you are moving across them, as there is nothing to measure from. You still need to be more than 1"away at the end of movement, as at the end you're no longer moving across the models, and they pop back into existence.
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Jan 24, 2018 03:27
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Uroboros posted:Beer4thebeergod you looking to meet your fellow goons? Absolutely. To be clear I'm prepping for NOVA.
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Jan 24, 2018 03:31
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Uroboros posted:I'm curious what everyone has left to finish to be ready for the convention. Pedro Kantor stand in 2 Lieutenants Gravis Captain 18 Intercessors 10 Scouts 6 Aggressors 6 Inceptors 3 Predators 5 Devastators 1 Vindicator Can I spend enough time away from rules arguments to paint this all in 8 weeks?!
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Pedro Kantor stand in I'd think even without stopping to quibble one would be hard pressed to get that much done in eight weeks but by all means prove me dumb and wrong.
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Jan 24, 2018 04:06
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Pedro Kantor stand in I took me four weeks to do 5 Intercessors so good luck.
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Jan 24, 2018 04:39
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Absolutely. To be clear I'm prepping for NOVA. Oh, cool. If you want to do a painting time date sometime with some folks, I'd be down. I just didn't want to intrude on you and Dan's Adepticon paintfest.
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dexefiend posted:
The Ion cannon is really good vs Shiny Spears, and other expensive infantry with invulnerable saves.
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Jan 24, 2018 04:48
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The Ion Raker with ATS is pretty good against most things. AP-2 isn't that great but if you're overcharging it you're at S8 and d3 damage and that starts adding up real fast.
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Felime posted:Oh, cool. If you want to do a painting time date sometime with some folks, I'd be down. I just didn't want to intrude on you and Dan's Adepticon paintfest. Dan's still figuring out his schedule, and I'm always down for painting. My goal is 2000 points by NOVA and I'm... 10% of the way there. Fortunately Intercessors are also the cheapest models in my army.
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Corrode posted:The guy I played wasn't the problem. He's a tough player but a good and fair dude. It's the guy I declined you should avoid. Ah fair enough. I've not played a lot of games against local 40k players but the few I have have all been OK. Local warmachine players are a nice bunch. I did play an incredibly awkward guy at Legends of the 5 Rings though.
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Jan 24, 2018 08:57
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I can only imagine that in-character Lord of the Rings hams must be the absolute worst.
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Serotonin posted:Ah fair enough. I've not played a lot of games against local 40k players but the few I have have all been OK. Local warmachine players are a nice bunch. Follow-up now that it's morning. Posted on our local Facebook group the other day to see if anyone wanted a game Tuesday eve. Immediately a dude I'll call Timewaster responds. He's up for a game at "7ish." I mentiond this guy before ITT, he's who offered to swap me some Guard bitz, missed our agreed meeting time by 30mins+, then left the completely wrong stuff. I'm trying to keep my games early and short because coming home late on a weeknight understandably pisses my wife off, so I throw him the bone of a 6.30 start which he'll "try to make." Given his rep for being late/forgetting about games entirely, I peace out at this point and tell him I'll play someone else. I get another game against a different guy. He's playing his Eldar. This dude is always a tough game and even though his lists aren't top tier they're always well-designed and he knows what he's doing with them. We end up starting a little late, but by about 8.20 we're into the bottom of turn 2, so things are on course to finish in a reasonable time. Then Timewaster arrives. He wonders over to say hello, fine. He explains he was "caught up in traffic" so as predicted he would have been hugely late if I'd agreed to a game with him, which is why I declined in the first place. He sort of hovers at our table for a bit, fine, I don't know him at all but my opponent does a bit and Timewaster wants to see how the game's going, whatever. Except he doesn't loving leave. The entire rest of his evening is spent watching two other people who aren't his friends play a game he's not involved with. Nevermind, he'll involve himself anyway! Here the other aspect of Timewaster's character comes out. He will not shut the gently caress up and he doesn't know any of the rules. He's constantly trying to correct us or tell us what to do, and he keeps getting basic poo poo wrong. He's trying to "manage" the game like he's a ref, except he doesn't know anything, neither of us like him or especially want him to be there, and he keeps asking questions about everything which drags out the back end of the game something fierce. From being part into turn 2 at 8.20, we don't finish the game until like 10.30, and there is a lot of dead poo poo which should be speeding things up, not slowing them down. He also keeps helpfully reminding my opponent of things he's partly forgotten. Me being increasingly short with him doesn't even touch the sides, even if he pauses for second he'll just continue blathering on immediately after. Now he's giving out hobby advice - my opponent drops as Howling Banshee, so he starts telling him he needs to weight the bases. How weighting the bases will help when someone straight up knocks it off the board edge is unclear, but he won't loving stop going on about it even when we both tell him to stop. Next he's giving us list advice, making truly horrible suggestions. He doesn't understand screening and wants an explanation why I didn't just scatter my units across the board in random fashion. Just a constant flow of complete poo poo. The most bizarre thing was the stools. The room we're in has a central table for leaving stuff on and general bric-a-brac, and under it there's a bunch of stools for people to use. I've brought one over to my side of the table. At one point I'm stood up and dude reaches past me to take the stool off me so he can sit down. I tell him to give it back and get one from the middle table because there's plenty there. A normal individual would apologise at this point. This guy complains at me that I'm not sat on it so why can't he have it? I straight up tell him to gently caress off and he grudgingly puts it back. Later on, I pop to the toilet, and I come back and dude is sat on my side of the table as if it's his game. Again, a normal person would look up and move on in his position; in this case, I have to ask him to move and he takes his drat time. This all probably sounds petty, and it doesn't compare to the guy who was straight up cheating and complaining about being corrected on basic rules issues from a few months ago, but it is enough to put Timewaster on the list of guys I will directly tell no instead of even pretending to entertain the possibility of a game, and in future will actively tell to leave if he starts hanging around. Living Image fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Jan 24, 2018 |
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Maybe he just really likes you and wanted to be your friend. And maybe feeling the residual warmth of your arse on a stool is as close as he can come to a human connection with you. You're such a dick, Corrode. You should definitely offer to play him. And then tell us how it goes.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Maybe he just really likes you and wanted to be your friend. And maybe feeling the residual warmth of your arse on a stool is as close as he can come to a human connection with you. Or have a sleep over...
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Lmao. Jesus that's loving weird behaviour. I reckon I could get a game in Corrode next Wednesday or Thursday after work if that fits for you? Hit me up on Messenger if you want one. I promise I'm socially skilled. Can't promise I'm that great at 40k. I do at least know the rules.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Maybe he just really likes you and wanted to be your friend. And maybe feeling the residual warmth of your arse on a stool is as close as he can come to a human connection with you. Going to have to agree with LJS. Also, I'm fairly certain from your story that he in fact knows the rules and was getting things wrong on purpose in order to provide teaching moments for you and to boost your self-esteem via correcting his mistakes. This man was willing to publically play the fool for your benefit, yet here we are. Let us know how that make-up game goes. Also, what a complete loving wanker.
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Corrode posted:Follow-up now that it's morning. Somehow reminds me of the stalker who basically made me give up on 30k for a period of time.
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Serotonin posted:Lmao. Jesus that's loving weird behaviour. I think I'm like triple booked but I'll see what I can do. Only barely got a game this week (and wish I hadn't bothered) and now 3 come at once, it's like bloody buses.
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Mango Polo posted:Somehow reminds me of the stalker who basically made me give up on 30k for a period of time. This sounds like a story. Share with the group.
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Corrode posted:This sounds like a story. Share with the group.
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Safety Factor posted:Oh man, just wait until you see that guy's models. His homemade, converted Horus is something special. It's honestly reassuring that I'm not the only person encountering gigantic weirdoes. I don't remember it being as bad as this before, I never used to have this trouble.
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Corrode posted:I think I'm like triple booked but I'll see what I can do. Only barely got a game this week (and wish I hadn't bothered) and now 3 come at once, it's like bloody buses. No worries, just hit me up on Messenger.
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Corrode posted:It's honestly reassuring that I'm not the only person encountering gigantic weirdoes. I don't remember it being as bad as this before, I never used to have this trouble.  
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Corrode posted:This all probably sounds petty, and it doesn't compare to the guy who was straight up cheating and complaining about being corrected on basic rules issues from a few months ago, but it is enough to put Timewaster on the list of guys I will directly tell no instead of even pretending to entertain the possibility of a game, and in future will actively tell to leave if he starts hanging around. if only you could find it in yourself to be as direct with people irl as you are itt
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This hurts me. Local gaming is pretty rough here too, the only players I'm really interested in consistent and common games against are people I've known personally for years. The game shops, leagues, and community locally is full of abysmal ur-nerds. We even have our own local Juice Dad!
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:if only you could find it in yourself to be as direct with people irl as you are itt Honestly it caught me off balance a bit and I didn't realise how much time was dragging on. In future he's being asked to leave.
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Corrode posted:It's honestly reassuring that I'm not the only person encountering gigantic weirdoes. I don't remember it being as bad as this before, I never used to have this trouble. You're not. There's a couple guys at my local GW that are really irritating. I was taking part in a 4 way AoS battle with my brand new Khorne Bloodbound army about a month ago, where everything was bare plastic. The guy at the shop that I despise was on the table over playing a 40k apocalypse game. He stopped playing to go talk to the manager about "can we instill a house rule where if you field an unpainted, unprimed army that you get -1 to all your hit and wound rolls?" Dude loving stopped playing his game to go ask the manager if I could be punished for fielding an unpainted army in a game he wasn't even a part of. This is that Blood Angels player, the same one that fielded terminators on different size bases and army looks like he painted by just melting crayons on them. He's also the reason our local manager posted in our group about hygiene. Another guy at the shop is alright, but I refuse to play him because he's exceptionally slow. As in, it took him 30 minutes just to get his space marines out of the shoe box he was carrying them in and onto the table to begin setting up. We were playing a 1500 point game. I ended up leaving at the end of turn 1 because it took so long to start that I ran out of time.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Dan's still figuring out his schedule, and I'm always down for painting. My goal is 2000 points by NOVA and I'm... 10% of the way there. Fortunately Intercessors are also the cheapest models in my army. Yeah, I'm having a tough week. Been having trouble sleeping and lots of work. I'm managing to get my painting done, though! After I finish these Hellblasters, I'll take a look at what I think I can achieve and get in contact with you.
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Yup, that's him. He's in Barcelona. When I was going to move there for my new job, I started looking around for Horus Heresy players. Turns out there's zero HH action going on, but I did find one guy on B&C who was into it and his profile said "Barcelona". I messaged him and he was super happy that he'd finally have someone to play with. Keep in mind, at this point I'm still not relocated to Barcelona. Initially he's asking me about what armies I play (Thousand Sons; and I mention a few times that I don't yet have an army) and he starts to tell me about some of his hobby stuff. Over the course of a few weeks I find out he plays Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Sons of Horus, Blood Angels, Ultramarines, White Scars. he doesn't actually buy Forge World stuff, he just converts everything. This leads to some... interesting models. But hey he's super into it, that's cool. Then he finally reveals what this is all about : he wants to recreate the Siege of Terra. So he starts asking me about what other armies I think are cool. I tell him World Eaters and Sons of Horus, to which he replies "great! You can use my models, and also you can add more when you have time so these factions are Terra-ready!" I'm still not in Barcelona. I have not yet even packed my stuff for the relocation and he's trying to rope me into not only playing with his toys, but to paint and model poo poo for him. That's strike one. I finally arrive in Barcelona. I'm in an airbnb for a month, so I keep all of my hobby stuff packed in the transport boxes. On a weekly basis he asks if I've started painting; if my Thousand Sons are ready; if I want to increase the size of his armies; if my Thousand Sons are NOW ready. Later this becomes asking the same questions 3-4 times a week. He's also getting frustrated about me "not doing poo poo for the Siege of Terra", so he starts to offer me to play Battlefleet Gothic, Necromunda, and some other specialist games. I've never played Battlefleet Gothic and that sounded cool, so we agree on an demo match. So we play. He wrecks me. He barely explained the rules, never corrected my mistakes until it was too late, did stuff I had no idea was allowed, etc. And then: "this was the first battle for the Siege of Terra campaign. Victory for the Blood Angels!" and he loving adds this poo poo to his blog and he's gloating non-stop that the loyalists have gained the upper hand against the heretics. loving strike two. I tell him I was not a big fan of BFG, let's just stick to 30k. Shortly after he offers a Zone Mortalis match and his own models for me to use. That's cool, let's do it. I pick Sons of Horus, he goes for Blood Angels. His models are not exactly stellar and absolutely not WYSIWYG, but I assumed that's fine. Well, battle day comes, he looks at my list and models and start bitching that I shouldn't be able to play this. "Your vets don't have combi plasmas, you don't have an accurate model to represent your selected ZM stratagem, and and and...". Eventually he agrees to let me run this list. Then I see what this little motherfucker brought. He's running a twin-plasma Moritat with a relic that allows him to move through walls. If you don't play 30k: this is a single model with the potential to zap almost anything off the board, and the relic item is not only ridiculously good in Zone Mortalis, but it's something that Forge World specifically wrote in the rulebook is only intended for campaigns and should require player approval because they are not balanced. Ayyyyyyy. We play anyway, but strike three. His Moritat fucks himself up in the most incredible of ways right at the start of the match and the remaining time he is livid as poo poo and almost silent. He still wins, but honestly it was worth it for seeing his Moritat do poo poo all. "The second victory for loyalists in the Siege of Terra campaign!" Bitch. Later on I see him post on B&C looking for "the strongest combos for ZM" Strike four. After that I decided to stop playing anything until I could have my own army, because visibly the guy is a lovely, cheating abusive power gamer. So he went back to pestering me 3-4 times a week about my progress. At that point, my job was not going well, and combined with my slow modelling means I was not really making any headway. This seriously grated him, and eventually he told me to just hurry the gently caress up, and to slap some paint on the models like he does and call it a day. Strike five, because holy poo poo I refuse to paint like him. I tell him I'm seriously tired of his constant whining and that I don't need the extra stress; I'll let him know when I have something to play with and until then just shut the gently caress up for the love of god. He goes quiet... for two days, then he starts asking again about my progress. I'm tired, so I just give up on talking to him and replying. He keeps sending messages. Two weeks later, I make my way home from work at around 6pm... and the fucker is standing in front of my apartment building. Tells me he'd been waiting for me for a long time because I wasn't replying. Final strike, told him to go gently caress himself and if I ever see him here again I'll break his face. He got angry but left without really protesting. That night he wrote a blog post about how "someone had sabotaged his incredible Siege of Terra campaign and all of his work and time had been wasted by that person". A few days later he took down the blog post. lmao. gently caress me why did I even bother for so long.
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I had a similar terrible person at my local shop. Terrible at games, didn't know the rules, butted in with bad advice, and generally a bit of a creeper. One Saturday morning, he came in drunk and started hanging on me (literally). The manager refused to do anything and I ended up leaving and not returning for a year when I heard he was gone. On the flip side, I'm in an escalation league now and keep getting matched up with players I haven't met before. They've all been great and I'm so thankful for the generally good experience now.
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