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burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.
I guess if there’s a high enough chance there’s somebody in your audience who is going to jump to whatever bad conclusion about you and freak out before you even get to explain, it’s somewhat forgivable. I’m just not sure that’s a real risk in most circumstances.

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Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

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Switchblade Switcharoo
Having just tried it, I can confirm that marmalade is bitter and disgusting.

I don't know if that's a unpopular opinion, but I choose to die on this hill anyway. :colbert:

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Sic Semper Goon posted:

Having just tried it, I can confirm that marmalade is bitter and disgusting.

I don't know if that's a unpopular opinion, but I choose to die on this hill anyway. :colbert:

It's not an unpopular opinion amongst children. :shrug:

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Paddington Bear likes it and Paddington Bear is awesome. :colbert:

He wears a hat you know.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Sic Semper Goon posted:

Having just tried it, I can confirm that marmalade is bitter and disgusting.

I don't know if that's a unpopular opinion, but I choose to die on this hill anyway. :colbert:

That's a pretty common opinion, really. I like marmalade a lot but few people I've met also enjoy it.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

yeah I eat rear end posted:

Everyone feels like it's necessary to give their detailed opinion on wonder woman and if they don't like it they always feel compelled to include a bunch of stuff assuring the reader that they aren't sexist. My unpopular opinion is that it's OK to just say you don't like a movie, and unless you explicitly don't like it because it has a woman as the lead character nobody has the right to call you anti-feminist or whatever. The over-assuring that you dislike it for the proper reasons just makes me think you're covering for something.

(this wasn't directed explicitly at you discarded box, it just reminded me of like every post i've seen in pyf talking about the movie)

This happened with the Ghostbusters remake too. The preemptive hatred for it by nerds was so toxic that nobody felt comfortable just saying it wasn’t great.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Henchman of Santa posted:

This happened with the Ghostbusters remake too. The preemptive hatred for it by nerds was so toxic that nobody felt comfortable just saying it wasn’t great.

The people that hate it always mention that Chris Hemsworth was surprisingly funny and the best thing about the movie so it just comes off looking bad and misogynist.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I could only make it through about an hour of the new Ghostbusters before I just totally lost interest. Felt like watching something slapped together from improve outtakes.

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
I've not seen it yet, but he is extremely funny and handsome and cool. So that checks out.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Is it OK to say the shape of water was terrible and kind of gross? Because it was.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

yeah I eat rear end posted:

Is it OK to say the shape of water was terrible and kind of gross? Because it was.

Anti-miscegenation much?

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Henchman of Santa posted:

Anti-miscegenation much?

I get that's what they were going for but it's just a bunch of one dimensional characters not acting like actual humans doing predictable things. Bad guy is bad, good guys are good, good girl ends up with good guy in the end. It was just too saccharine and heavy handed, like basically every oscar winning movie.

the sex part I think is gross. Other races aren't weird mermen, they are other people. Even if it was intelligent it's still weird to gently caress it. Dolphins are intelligent but try going to seaworld and asking to gently caress the dolphins and see how people react.

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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

yeah I eat rear end posted:

I get that's what they were going for but it's just a bunch of one dimensional characters not acting like actual humans doing predictable things. Bad guy is bad, good guys are good, good girl ends up with good guy in the end. It was just too saccharine and heavy handed, like basically every oscar winning movie.

I’m just joking but I did love the movie. Nobody is actually going to call you a bigot for disliking it. You just have a minority opinion.

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Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Solice Kirsk posted:

I could only make it through about an hour of the new Ghostbusters before I just totally lost interest. Felt like watching something slapped together from improve outtakes.

It struck me as just another entry in the endless cavalcade of lovely movies designed to cash in on nostalgia by having a name you remember on it. The gender of the Ghostbusters had nothing to do with that opinion; that was just my immediate reaction to the marketing. It seemed like it was just more manufactured drivel more concerned with getting asses in seats as cheaply as possible than making an actually good movie.

Considering that the conversation over it died within days of it opening I'm assuming that I'm right. From what I heard it was just plain bland; not really all that good but not all that bad either. Granted there was no way it wasn't going to be compared to the original and that is a very, very high bar set right from the get go. It would have been far better if they just had the cast do their own thing rather than try to reboot a classic.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

It struck me as just another entry in the endless cavalcade of lovely movies designed to cash in on nostalgia by having a name you remember on it. The gender of the Ghostbusters had nothing to do with that opinion; that was just my immediate reaction to the marketing. It seemed like it was just more manufactured drivel more concerned with getting asses in seats as cheaply as possible than making an actually good movie.

Considering that the conversation over it died within days of it opening I'm assuming that I'm right. From what I heard it was just plain bland; not really all that good but not all that bad either. Granted there was no way it wasn't going to be compared to the original and that is a very, very high bar set right from the get go. It would have been far better if they just had the cast do their own thing rather than try to reboot a classic.

I watched it and I didn't hate it but yeah, it was just bland and they did nothing new at all with the concept. I can't even remember a lot of it - to me it's like that journey to the center of the earth movie...I didn't hate watching it but once it was over it basically exited my memory.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
I’ve never met a socialist who wasn’t extremely annoying. I also put the odds of the US going full socialism/communism any time soon at around 500 to 1.

Not that I even disagree with them that much, honestly, but they’re getting to the point where they’re like the stereotype of vegans.

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
Real socialism as in controlling the means of production, or just "maybe we should spend more tax money on helping people" socialism?

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Just say "better dead than red" at them. Then if they murder you they go to prison for life which is the ultimate revenge.

Chernabog
Apr 16, 2007



I'm rather ambivalent towards Shape of Water. It had some interesting ideas and neat design but it was too predictable and on-the-nose.

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
Speaking of, dunno if this has been brought up in the thread yet.

I can't go to movies alone. Just can't for some reason. This has led to me missing movies I was interested in with a "oh well, I'll catch it on Blu-ray."

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Aramek posted:

Speaking of, dunno if this has been brought up in the thread yet.

I can't go to movies alone. Just can't for some reason. This has led to me missing movies I was interested in with a "oh well, I'll catch it on Blu-ray."

I usually don't do it either because no matter how bad of a seat you pick where you think nobody could possibly want to take the seat next to you, someone will and ask if it's taken and when you say no they will judge you. If you are going to the movies alone at least bring a jacket and leave it on the seat next to you so you can say "sorry, it's taken, she's in the bathroom" and people will think you are not a pathetic loser.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Das Boo posted:

Mutts are the best dogs and I cannot understand for the life of me why people spend hundreds of dollars on pre-broke dogs.

IMO we should phase out breeds that are either super unhealthy (ie bulldogs, pugs) or statistically dangerous (ie pitts) but I think breeds are still ok. For dogs like poodles or goldens, that have congenital problems from inbreeding but are otherwise normal and healthy, the government should mandate some kind of diversity breeding program. Abolish the AKC and the whole "ah, the snout must be JUST SO", thing and mandate that breeders start bringing in new blood on the regular. A poodle or golden or husky or whatever mutt is still recognizably that breed. And since dogs exist to be our companions it imo makes sense that someone might prefer a specific personality/appearance that a breed provides. Just mandate that they get regular new stock in the breed and stop their descent into being little doggie habsburgs.

I'd still always say take a rescue dog first, but as I grew up with and love poodles, I'd take a rescue poodle instantly over everyone else in the shelter. There's a lot of room between AKC bullshit and "all breeding must cease"

All breeding might still should cease, but that's because we already have more dogs than homes. That is the first thing I'd crack down on.

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Mar 14, 2005

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Breeding should be heavily controlled and only allowed for specific purposes, like working dogs where the breed actually matters. Neutering/spaying should be mandatory for every non-breeding-licensed pet owner and the penalty for not doing it should include jail time as well as confiscation of all pets and a permanent ban on owning them in the future.

discarded box
Oct 15, 2008

yeah I eat rear end posted:

Everyone feels like it's necessary to give their detailed opinion on wonder woman and if they don't like it they always feel compelled to include a bunch of stuff assuring the reader that they aren't sexist. My unpopular opinion is that it's OK to just say you don't like a movie, and unless you explicitly don't like it because it has a woman as the lead character nobody has the right to call you anti-feminist or whatever. The over-assuring that you dislike it for the proper reasons just makes me think you're covering for something.

(this wasn't directed explicitly at you discarded box, it just reminded me of like every post i've seen in pyf talking about the movie)

i think its interesting that so many people feel the need to preemptively defend themselves or over assure they dislike it for the right reasons. i believe its because theres just such a huge disconnect between the reality of the situation and the way most people hail it as some kind of revolutionary masterpiece, therefore if you dont like it you must be some kind of woman hating monster. people are so afraid of criticizing media with women for fear of being labeled sexist that they end up overdoing their preemptive defense to the point of appearing like youre hiding your sexism. ironic

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

discarded box posted:

i think its interesting that so many people feel the need to preemptively defend themselves or over assure they dislike it for the right reasons. i believe its because theres just such a huge disconnect between the reality of the situation and the way most people hail it as some kind of revolutionary masterpiece, therefore if you dont like it you must be some kind of woman hating monster. people are so afraid of criticizing media with women for fear of being labeled sexist that they end up overdoing their preemptive defense to the point of appearing like youre hiding your sexism. ironic

I think it's because so many toxic misogynists were hating on it, and other stuff like the new ghostbusters or the people saying Idris Elba couldn't possibly be a norse god, that sort of thing. Nobody decent wants to be associated with those people so everyone takes like ten steps back from it.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I think it's because so many toxic misogynists were hating on it, and other stuff like the new ghostbusters or the people saying Idris Elba couldn't possibly be a norse god, that sort of thing. Nobody decent wants to be associated with those people so everyone takes like ten steps back from it.

I was against Idris Elba being Roland in the dark tower movie, not because he was black, but because they showed so many signs that they were going to be loving with the story premise at all levels - different companions, different story overall.

And I was right, the movie sucked rear end and I pray to Maturin that they don't make a sequel to that garbage.

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

Coffee And Pie posted:

I’ve never met a socialist who wasn’t extremely annoying. I also put the odds of the US going full socialism/communism any time soon at around 500 to 1.

Not that I even disagree with them that much, honestly, but they’re getting to the point where they’re like the stereotype of vegans.

When Coffee and Pie mysteriously vanishes at midnight, I think we will all know the reason why.

EDIT: Although the university student socialist of today will be, in ten years, sending letters to the corporations they own stock in, demanding that they reinstate slavery and dump nuclear waste in schools so the stocks' value will go up a point. Didn't they realize that they (the former socialist) had to pay off hundreds of thousands in debt that they spent on boats and sport cars?

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

you guys don't meet anybody, quit your bullshit

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

yeah I eat rear end posted:

I usually don't do it either because no matter how bad of a seat you pick where you think nobody could possibly want to take the seat next to you, someone will and ask if it's taken and when you say no they will judge you. If you are going to the movies alone at least bring a jacket and leave it on the seat next to you so you can say "sorry, it's taken, she's in the bathroom" and people will think you are not a pathetic loser.

That seems to me to be far more pathetic than going to a movie on your own.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Sunswipe posted:

That seems to me to be far more pathetic than going to a movie on your own.

I have never denied being a pathetic moron

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
I liked Wonder Woman overall, Gadot really nailed what the character is all about. My main problem was that for being hailed as such a "feminist" movie, nearly every action she takes in relation to the story is propelled by something Steve Trevor does or says. I think at one point he literally leads her by the elbow to go somewhere. The only thing she really does on her own was no man's land sequence, which not coincidentally was the most exciting part of the movie.

Again, it wasn't "bad" or anything, but definitely something I noticed while watching, and then seeing the media reaction, of everyone falling over themselves to talk about how "powerful" it was, confused me.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Not seen any of the recent DC movies, but I've been getting the impression that the praise for Wonder Woman was in large part because it was the first watchable DC movie since Dark Knight Rises. It's not so much that the movie was great, more that it didn't poo poo its pants.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
IMO it's pretty impressive how hard the DC movies have failed compared to the Marvel ones. Other than Spider Man and maybe X-Men, the Marvel heroes have always been way less popular among regular non-nerd folks than the DC ones. I was never into heroes but still knew all about Superman, Batman, Lex Luthor, Wonder Woman, Justice League, Joker, and so on. Meanwhile before the films exploded I'd not be able to name a Marvel hero besides Wolverine, the Hulk, or Spider Man. I guess I'd recognize Dr. Doom but only from the ride at Universal.

Now 10 years later people like Thor, Dr. Strange, and Rocket Raccoon are famous and everyone hates Superman movies.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





imho there's a weird amount of confirmation bias when people talk about comic book movies especially when they frame it as a dc vs marvel thing because marvel has put out a lot of below average to awful movies starting from every other x-men, the fantastic 4 attempts, the hulk solos, the ghost riders, the garfield spidermans, thor the dark world, ironman 2, spiderman 3 etc, etc, etc on top of films with more middling or split receptions like age of ultron or iron man 3

i guess there's some advantage to just putting out a lot of movies in general since only films like logan, spiderman 2, ironman 1 or gotg survive to influence perception

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I think it's because so many toxic misogynists were hating on it, and other stuff like the new ghostbusters or the people saying Idris Elba couldn't possibly be a norse god, that sort of thing. Nobody decent wants to be associated with those people so everyone takes like ten steps back from it.

MRAs ruining everything once again. If the alt right wasn't so virulently toxic we might actually be able to have good conversations about such things but if you say something like "I don't think Amy Schumer is all that funny" then you'll get MRAs coming out of the woodwork to back you up on that. Not finding her funny is a perfectly valid thing because every comedian that has ever existed has people that just don't find them funny. It's acceptable to not enjoy a thing. You don't even have to justify it. It's fine. It can just like...not be your thing. Unfortunately the absurd toxicity of gender relations in America right now makes it utterly impossible. Same with the whole Ghostbusters fiasco; to me that read as just marketing bullshit on the level of "well hey what do those millenials like? How can we get them to watch a movie? I know! We'll gender swap something. Then we can cash in on nostalgia and feminism! Huzzah!" Maybe I'm just being cynical but I didn't see even the slightest shred of actual social justice there; only the cold, reptilian machine that is the modern movie industry grasping at every dollar they can in any way they can.

Actual social justice would be to let those women do their own thing in their own way rather than stapling them on to a pre-existing franchise. How the alt right got "this is progressives ruining everything" out of "...but what if we made the Ghostbusters GIRLS?!??!" is a mystery to me. Seems to me it was just being territorial misogynists. "This is my nostalgia and you can't have it! Whatever you do must be absolutely perfect to what I think is right or you're a bad person that hates men."

Um...no. That's not how that works. At all.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Aramek posted:

I can't go to movies alone. Just can't for some reason. This has led to me missing movies I was interested in with a "oh well, I'll catch it on Blu-ray."
The best way to see a movie at the cinema is when absolutely no one else is there. Whole place to yourself. A movie isn't a social experience anyway, you're sitting quietly in the dark, and other people can only ruin it.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Tiggum posted:

The best way to see a movie at the cinema is when absolutely no one else is there. Whole place to yourself. A movie isn't a social experience anyway, you're sitting quietly in the dark, and other people can only ruin it.

Tiggum.txt

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Sometimes I wish movie tickets cost twice as much so that it would keep the assholes out. People will surely put their phone away and be quiet during the movie if they have to pay $25 to see it.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Mu Zeta posted:

Sometimes I wish movie tickets cost twice as much so that it would keep the assholes out. People will surely put their phone away and be quiet during the movie if they have to pay $25 to see it.

I thought that's about how much it cost the last time I went, but was wrong. The better news is the theater I go to is playing The Dark Crystal a couple nights in February!

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hard counter posted:

The garfield spidermans

I’m sorry, the what now?

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