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Why did they write a time jump then? They must have a completely different ending for the TV show in mind. They are not even up to end of the second book yet. This one has got to end with the opening of the gates. If the plan is for 5 seasons where do they go from there? I'm going to spoiler the speculation, don't read it if you don't want to know the plot of future books. Are they going to have earth bombed and the martians through the gates in the first episode, spend half the season killing Marco and saving earth with the martians coming back in their new ships in the latter half? Or something entirely different? At what point can they end the show satisfactorily?
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Collateral posted:Why did they write a time jump then? They must have a completely different ending for the TV show in mind. They are not even up to end of the second book yet. This one has got to end with the opening of the gates. If the plan is for 5 seasons where do they go from there? End of Book 3?
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Jan 23, 2018 13:40
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In this post-GRRM world the authors have done a pretty good job of creating several ending points in the series already by making the books into pairs or trilogies instead of one long arc. Depending on their viewership/funding and stuff I can see them ending pretty easily after either (book 4) the Ilus excursion with some epilogue exposition on the promise of all these new worlds or whatever or (book 6) Marco's defeat while leaving out the Laconia stuff. If suddenly it explodes into ridiculous GoT-level popularity there's still the final trilogy (7/8/9) to stretch out their seasons with.
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Jan 23, 2018 14:07
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Milky Moor posted:End of Book 3? Nah, they can skip all or almost all of Cibola Burn, and I'd be fine. But god drat I want Nemesis Games and Babylon's Ashes.
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Jan 23, 2018 14:14
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Proteus Jones posted:They are also quoted as saying they fixed things narratively they wish they could go back and do in the books. Yeah I was super glad when they condensed 100+ pages of Eros "vomit zombie survival adventure" content mostly into a single episode.
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qirex posted:Yeah I was super glad when they condensed 100+ pages of Eros "vomit zombie survival adventure" content mostly into a single episode. That was probably the biggest change between books and show that I noticed. I kinda felt bad cause I hyped my wife on a big tonal shift out of nowhere in the series to help keep her interest, as she found Expanse pretty slow at first. She gets kinda bored by slow space operas, and she likes monster/horror/zombie stuff*, so I thought Eros would be the turning point where she decides "yeah this is my poo poo". Then the flight from Eros is like 20 minutes long, with only the merest hint of protomolecule zombies, and with radiation poisoning set up as the far greater (albeit less harrowing) danger. She thought it was a good episode, best of the season, but didn't live up to the hype. Oops. (*she also loved BSG and didn't like Walking Dead past S1, so who the gently caress knows right. She's stuck with the show through S2, likes it more as it's gone on, and promises to read the books at some point.)
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Jan 23, 2018 23:29
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I could take or leave the body horror, but I am glad I didn't have to hear the phrase "vomit zombies," which had overstayed its welcome the instant it was introduced in the book.
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Jan 23, 2018 23:50
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Yeah the books were written when zombies were popular and a whole first person shooter survival zombie scene seemed fresh and trendy, but now it's tired and dated.
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Jan 24, 2018 01:18
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Pander posted:(*she also loved BSG and didn't like Walking Dead past S1, so who the gently caress knows right. She's stuck with the show through S2, likes it more as it's gone on, and promises to read the books at some point.) At least it sounds like she's got good taste.
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Jan 24, 2018 01:21
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah the books were written when zombies were popular and a whole first person shooter survival zombie scene seemed fresh and trendy, but now it's tired and dated. Also, and I admit this is nitpicky, it bugs me when an idiosyncratic term is used in the narration, and every character immediately starts using that term without discussion. It feels like, "oh, I guess they read the script."
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Jan 24, 2018 02:38
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah the books were written when zombies were popular and a whole first person shooter survival zombie scene seemed fresh and trendy, but now it's tired and dated. Also it was supposed to be a tabletop (or maaaaybe computer-based) RPG...gotta have MOBs. 
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It actually originated FROM a tabletop RPG  https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/sci-fi-fantasy/the-evolution-of-james-s-a-coreys-space-epic-the-expanse/ quote:Franck hadn’t forgotten his world, however. It was well suited for gaming, and while it wouldn’t become an MMO, he started to run it as a roleplaying game on a post-to-play gaming forum. He opened up a private forum with threads for each round, for each character, their actions and out-of-character commentary. It was here, online, that a story began to emerge. What had been distant elements of a world were now together in a vibrant setting, alongside a grand story of human societies in competition with one another. Now, all it needed were some characters.
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3 DONG HORSE posted:It actually originated FROM a tabletop RPG Sometime in the future we'll get a TV show adapted from Blackbird Dreaming: A Something Awful Novel Series
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Pander posted:Sometime in the future we'll get a TV show adapted from Blackbird Dreaming: A Something Awful Novel Series Or a Slenderman movie
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Jan 24, 2018 16:42
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As much as I want to see all the space battles and political maneuvering in the following books, I'd be really bummed if they cut out the ending of proto-Miller's story and the massively creepy non-euclidian underground factories and half a planet blowing up.
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Jan 24, 2018 17:08
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They've already mostly cut the PM or otherwise downplayed it so I'd be surprised if we even get the thing that book 3 is about
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Jan 24, 2018 18:13
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In fact rumor has it they've almost entirely cut book 3
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Jan 24, 2018 18:14
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Phi230 posted:In fact rumor has it they've almost entirely cut book 3 A lot of books 5 and 6 could be inserted before a lot of PM stuff if they jigger around with stuff. And it'd be hard to blame them. Books 5 and 6 have a pacing better suited for TV than 3/4. I could see them using 5/6 as the overarching plot while certain events from 3/4 happen as a sideshow to advance PM tech.
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I'm hoping they add the UHD version of season two to prime as well. Can't go back now that I've seen it.
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Jan 24, 2018 19:59
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My guess is that they will when it hits prime. My question is where are my UHD blu-rays with HDR and Atmos sound! Can you imagine anything with the PM and HDR? It would be incredible.
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If I recall the plot of 3 correctly it's not a huge loss if they just merge in the important bits elsewhere and skip the main conflict there. It was all interesting stuff, just a bit slow for TV. I'm just hoping they spend a good amount of time on the payoff for the stolen stealth stuff that was discussed in like episode 1.
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Jan 24, 2018 21:08
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I'm just excited for when the Roci gets upgraded with the railgun. I dont know what book that is in because I haven't read them
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Capri Sun Tzu posted:I'm just excited for when the Roci gets upgraded with the railgun. I dont know what book that is in because I haven't read them I think that's actually pretty late in the series, like the slug book everyone whines about
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Kingtheninja posted:I'm hoping they add the UHD version of season two to prime as well. Can't go back now that I've seen it. The blu rays are great but  at digital titties in the first scene. Those did not hold up to HD...  Azhais posted:I think that's actually pretty late in the series, like the slug book everyone whines about Wasn't book 3 mostly about the ring and the Slow Zone? Book 4 was the slug planet story with proto-Miller, and I feel like they would have a really hard time cutting that out. The railgun is definitely on the ship by book 4.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:The blu rays are great but Yeah, but there's a lot fat there that could be easily cut and have no real impact on the plot.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Book 4 was the slug planet story with proto-Miller Ah, thought that was 5
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Jan 25, 2018 00:54
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Books 3 and 4 have some interesting character moments and a few scenes that would make for fantastic scenery porn in addition to setting the overall political/social stage for the rest of the series so I can't see them cutting them out entirely.
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Digital titties? Also Saros is essentially running an Expanse game in the LP forum, War of the Worlds. It's epic af.
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Capri Sun Tzu posted:I'm just excited for when the Roci gets upgraded with the railgun. I dont know what book that is in because I haven't read them its like in between book 3/4
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sebmojo posted:Digital titties? Watch the first 5 minutes of the pilot, I noticed it on the original broadcast, but it stuck out like a sore thumb in HD. 
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Jan 25, 2018 01:54
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yeah they used CGI to edit out the nips on both Julie Mao and that lady with the bizarre casting choice from season 1
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Jan 25, 2018 01:58
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Oh, and I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the bluray is uncensored for anyone that needs to hear Avasalara's f-bombs! 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Oh, and I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the bluray is uncensored for anyone that needs to hear Avasalara's f-bombs! I'd swear (heh) the iTunes version is uncensored as well. I'll need to go check when I get a chance.
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If you paid money for it, it's going to be uncensored. That said, I honestly would expect Season 3 to be uncensored this year when it airs as well. Syfy don't give a gently caress anymore.
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Jan 25, 2018 03:14
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why haven't they even announcved when its coming out?!
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Baloogan posted:why haven't they even announcved when its coming out?! They are filming Season Three and Four back to back and it's meant longer filming time between them. My guess is Season Four ends at the end of book Four with a slightly tweaked explanation for one of the shows central mysteries and a more optimisistic outlook for the future. That will serve as a good end point for the series if they don't make anymore.
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Yeah, I'm guessing we will start seeing promos in the next 3 weeks or so, gearing up for a march/april launch after the current crop of shows end their seasons. They'll be using their in-channel ads to pump the shows that are currently going, then start pushing the new crop in the last few weeks of those shows' seasons.
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So are they just going to sit on season 4 for a year?
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Also, it is bookreader consensus that Miller's little rockhopper buddy (AquaKid) is going to be the first one through the ring, right? 
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Cojawfee posted:So are they just going to sit on season 4 for a year? They might not be "sitting on it" in terms of it being finished shows, they still need to edit and do effects and all that poo poo.
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