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Is TROMP the sound it made when the bombs hit?
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Jan 24, 2018 18:01
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McNally posted:Is TROMP the sound it made when the bombs hit? TROMP! *boom*
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Jan 24, 2018 18:03
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Flavius Belisarius posted:MANGIA! MANGIA! Invitation to the sharks.
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Jan 24, 2018 18:44
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23 January 1944 Anzio claims a second warship as the destroyer HMS Janus suffers a magazine explosion after taking a torpedo hit from a German aircraft.
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Jan 24, 2018 21:36
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McNally posted:Is TROMP the sound it made when the bombs hit? Making iron bottom sound great again.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:20
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The Tromp's actually a pretty decent boat. poo poo AA, but that's par for the course.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:24
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   When did I strip this force of its destroyers?  The battleships then chase the remaining destroyer down over four separate encounters.  Oh here they are, protecting Rabaul – guess what guys, the Katori is no longer a problem!  The remaining ships flee, right into the guns of the Battleships.  Poor buggers.  The air war continues in the same pattern.  That's a nice kill ratio.  At least these raids are giving my pilots some experience.  Those who survive anyway.  Having seen their relief fleet destroyed from shore. They Kiwis put up a token fight before surrendering.   Another busy day, we took losses, but the kills outweighed them.  The Katori is an old ship, but will be missed.
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Jan 25, 2018 05:07
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And now, the Katori trains its crew in a very important new skill: Dying.
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Jan 25, 2018 05:09
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Death of the Katori is gonna be a major force multiplier for the IJN. I’ve gotten to February 42 in my game and things are really starting to click. I dunno if the sale is still going but this game is actually pretty fun. The learning curve is the harshest I have ever encountered but behind the awful interface is a pretty amazing experience.
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Jan 25, 2018 05:22
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Bold Robot posted:Death of the Katori is gonna be a major force multiplier for the IJN. Not until Kashima is sunk as well, given they both seem to be in the same group. Out of idle curiosity, do the three Katori-class training cruisers do anything in this game other than just be really lovely light cruisers? Something to represent either their initial intended role (training), or what they ended up heavily used for (fleet administrative duties).
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Jan 25, 2018 05:49
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How exactly did a group of DE's and a DD manage to kill a Light Cruiser? Poor Katori. She'll be missed. Can you rename a heavy cruiser to her? Also while that wasn't a bad series of trades, you lost one light cruiser and had a Battleship heavily damaged. Make that a lot of ships that are heavily damaged. The damaged ships goin gto be in port awhile for repairs or have to go back to Japan for refits?
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Jan 25, 2018 06:54
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Torpedos!
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Jan 25, 2018 06:58
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wedgekree posted:How exactly did a group of DE's and a DD manage to kill a Light Cruiser? Poor Katori. She'll be missed. Can you rename a heavy cruiser to her? Also while that wasn't a bad series of trades, you lost one light cruiser and had a Battleship heavily damaged. Make that a lot of ships that are heavily damaged. The damaged ships goin gto be in port awhile for repairs or have to go back to Japan for refits? The Katori is barely a light cruiser, in a one-on-one fight either of those two Fletcher-class destroyers have more guns and more torpedoes than Katori.
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Jan 25, 2018 06:59
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As a training cruiser, the Katori has basically no armament, is hilariously slow at a max speed of 18 knots, and was almost entirely unarmored. I'm not sure I'd take her over just about anything you could conceivably call a real warship EDIT: To go into more detail about what vyelkin said, Fletcher class destroyers had 5 5inch guns and 10 torpedo tubes to the Katori's 4 5.5 inch guns, 2 more 5 inch AA guns, and 4 torpedo tubes. TheFlyingLlama fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Jan 25, 2018 07:03
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NO NO KATORI NO
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Jan 25, 2018 07:09
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So do you peel the fuzzy exterior before you eat the kiwi?
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Jan 25, 2018 07:17
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One light cruiser sunk, 3-4 ships on fire.. Our surface task force took a beating. Worth the trade off though? And hopefully most of the ships can be repaired quickly or aren't going tohave issues with Rabaul right there?
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Jan 25, 2018 07:24
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Lord Koth posted:Out of idle curiosity, do the three Katori-class training cruisers do anything in this game other than just be really lovely light cruisers? Something to represent either their initial intended role (training), or what they ended up heavily used for (fleet administrative duties). The game treats crews as inseparable from their ships, so even though Katori gains experience from going on adventures it only makes a crappy cruiser mildly better. That being said, it could probably be used in some minor interesting ways: 1 - As a surface raider. It has 8000 endurance and in the early war it's heavily enough armed to raid convoys in the corners of the map, especially in the Indian Ocean where there are basically no escorts for the first 6-10 months unless your opponent has broken up the British Indian Ocean Fleet. The Convoys you can safely raid after capturing the DEI (Capetown-Perth, Aden-Perth) are of little consequence if your opponent has gone Burma heavy, but you can still gain a few easy VPs, especially if you pair it with the AMCs Japan gets (they have similar armament and speed). Raiding the LA - Sydney fuel convoys might be possible, but you run the risk of running into land bombers or the US fleet at Noumea, Pago Pago, or Fiji. Or Catalinas. Catalinas are actually terrifyingly effective torpedo bombers against slow ships. 2 - As a fuel convoy escort. Katori's later war refits give it a fairly large AA battery (for its VP cost) and some depth charge racks, plus the minor contribution from the floatplane. At the very least it's a torpedo magnet and can eat one that would have otherwise gone into a tanker or fleet oiler. 3 - Deception. This would only work against a human opponent, since all they see is "TF: CA CA CL DD DD" in the hex and it's almost always wrong. You can bait an enemy surface force to be out of position to interdict a landing operation or lead an overeager cruiser task force into the jaws of the Kido Butai. Of course, it usually boils down to the Katori sisters sitting in port or acting as a torpedo shield for more valuable stuff. Edit: Incidentally, the Katori was actually one of the newest ships in the fleet. Triggerhappypilot fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Jan 25, 2018 08:43
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Yeah if you look through the combat results we take a bunch of hits and fires. Ofc it's all pointless now anyway without Katori-chan 
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Jan 25, 2018 11:40
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Triggerhappypilot posted:The game treats crews as inseparable from their ships, so even though Katori gains experience from going on adventures it only makes a crappy cruiser mildly better. Half true, captains can be replaced, allowing one to be sent to the reserve pool.
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Jan 25, 2018 12:37
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Lord Koth posted:Out of idle curiosity, do the three Katori-class training cruisers do anything in this game other than just be really lovely light cruisers? Something to represent either their initial intended role (training), or what they ended up heavily used for (fleet administrative duties). This game models cleverly redesignated, barely-armed fishing trawlers. The Katori is hardly the most useless ship in the game.
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Jan 25, 2018 12:41
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  Munda gets hit by multiple waves of enemy bombers.  Spitfires mess us up over Rabaul.  They hit our runways again.  Thing quieten down a bit. We still took heavy plane losses.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:12
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  That's the way to do it!  We continue to bring down bombers.   At least my subs are doing something.  They invade a new target. Same area, but new island.  They have carrier support in the area as well!  Two by the look of it.  The small defence force can't do much, and there is another sizeable allied force to the west.  We lose our first base in awhile, but it wasn't worth holding onto with to much force. The losses we've inflicted on Jaulit more than make up for the loss of one small atoll.  This could be painful.
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Jan 27, 2018 18:57
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  Munda is hit by multiple waves again.  So is Rabual, but here we have defenders.  Wildcats eh?  Our Helens make an attack, but just pick up flak.  The Jills suffer the same fate.  Our performance against Liberators is certainly improving!  More corpses wash ashore at Jaluit.  They fight hard, but are soon wiped out.  Another day of massed bomber waves. I'm not showing half the attacks or I'd be here all day. 
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Jan 27, 2018 18:57
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CVBs are Essexes, aren't they?
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Jan 27, 2018 19:21
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Night10194 posted:CVBs are Essexes, aren't they? Nah, the game often mis-reports what is in a task force.
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Jan 27, 2018 19:23
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I was more asking about the designation. I thought fleet carriers were just CVs.
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Jan 27, 2018 19:23
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Why the hell are your losses on Jaluit so high? Gamewise, not the whole "so many to shoot at in such a small area they can't miss" thing. The Neville could take over a thousand men, so it doesn't look like they were even shipping in the max capacity. I like that the AI is now using sub-chasers as invasion escort ships for some reason.
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Jan 27, 2018 19:34
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Grey Hunter posted:
You know, for yet another suicide wave against the defences at Jaluit, that was actually a hell of an attempt by these guys. Nasty number of destroyed squads.
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Jan 27, 2018 19:35
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Night10194 posted:I was more asking about the designation. I thought fleet carriers were just CVs. Fleet Carriers are just CV, battle carriers are CVB. Essex'es are not Battle Carriers
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Jan 27, 2018 20:04
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goatface posted:Why the hell are your losses on Jaluit so high? Gamewise, not the whole "so many to shoot at in such a small area they can't miss" thing. The Neville could take over a thousand men, so it doesn't look like they were even shipping in the max capacity. The last time the Allies were on Jaluit for more than a few days they managed to destroy the largest coastal defense battery on the island. Unless Grey moves another one down there (or at least the equivalent in men and artillery) we're probably going to see similar losses every time we push them off the island.
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Jan 27, 2018 20:19
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It's a bit early for a Midway-class to turn up.
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Jan 27, 2018 20:35
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26 January 1944 The destroyer Suzukaze is torpedoed in the Carolines by USS Skipjack.
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Jan 27, 2018 21:18
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Jan 28, 2018 03:44
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CannonFodder posted:Down is the fastest it's ever moved.
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Jan 28, 2018 04:46
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Night10194 posted:CVBs are Essexes, aren't they? goatface posted:It's a bit early for a Midway-class to turn up. I assume that the CVBs are only the Midways as Goatface said that will come around at the end of the war.
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Jan 28, 2018 04:52
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  Wading through the corpse beach.  Here comes the third “invasion” wave.  Our carrier based aircraft go forth and murder.  A much quieter day. That said, it was busy where it counts.  Come to Davy Jones locker my pretties.
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Jan 28, 2018 19:23
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Goddamn they need to start drafting GIs with gills.
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Since new monthly report is coming I would like to know if it is possible to estimate, even roughly, how many more (or less) casualties has Grey inflicted on Allies compared to historical number?
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