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north korean traditional music from the 40s and 50s with the lyrics changed to be about juche is going to sweep the globe
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Jan 23, 2018 19:46
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combining easy-to-dance-to beats with lyrics stridently asserting the purity of the Joseon race
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Jan 23, 2018 19:49
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this is the most galactic xiist take i’ve read this month https://twitter.com/ajitbirsingh/status/955831000285745153
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Jan 24, 2018 10:19
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https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/956241758542876674
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Jan 24, 2018 20:25
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China bans hip hop, forms a bilateral trade agreement with Venezuela to import only the finest reggaeton.
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Jan 24, 2018 21:06
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if people actually bothered to read the original document the statement on hip hop only applies to the one program where the scandal-ridden guy quit. but because no one loving reads anymore, they just see a tweet and decide china is banning hip hop
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Jan 24, 2018 23:35
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R. Guyovich posted:if people actually bothered to read the original document the statement on hip hop only applies to the one program where the scandal-ridden guy quit. but because no one loving reads anymore, they just see a tweet and decide china is banning hip hop this seems to indicate it was larger than that http://pigeonsandplanes.com/news/2018/01/china-banned-hip-hop-culture-television quote:The country now "specifically requires that programs should not feature actors with tattoos [or depict] hip hop culture, sub-culture and dispirited culture" after new rules were put in place by the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television of the People’s Republic of China (SAPPRFT).
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Jan 24, 2018 23:38
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Karl Barks posted:this seems to indicate it was larger than that i'm going by the original statement, which emphasizes the "four must nots" as universal requirements but in the section about hip-hop (嘻哈), it uses the term 节目 meaning "item on a program" or "program" rather than 广播电视 meaning "broadcast and television" more generally. this was the term used to address guests when discussing the "four must nots" but not the one used to discuss hip hop culture, tattoo artists, etc. idk about the other measures but it seems like western reporting is lumping in unrelated incidents. previous censorship has come after the women's league criticized artists and was done to specifically combat misogynistic lyrics, according to the statements put out that, again, no one actually reads. the drug use stuff is similar — promotion of drug culture is seen as incitement against the law. which is dumb, but, whatever
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Jan 25, 2018 00:16
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R. Guyovich posted:i'm going by the original statement, which emphasizes the "four must nots" as universal requirements but in the section about hip-hop (嘻哈), it uses the term 节目 meaning "item on a program" or "program" rather than 广播电视 meaning "broadcast and television" more generally. this was the term used to address guests when discussing the "four must nots" but not the one used to discuss hip hop culture, tattoo artists, etc. idk about the other measures but it seems like western reporting is lumping in unrelated incidents. previous censorship has come explicitly after the women's league criticized artists and was done to expressly combat misogynistic lyrics, according to the statements put out that, again, no one actually reads okay, that's fair. i think people just associate it with bill o'reilly-esque arguments against hip hop, and so it all seems very silly
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Jan 25, 2018 00:17
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Karl Barks posted:okay, that's fair. i think people just associate it with bill o'reilly-esque arguments against hip hop, and so it all seems very silly the government CAN be pretty retrograde but this isn't a particularly good example of that imo. the more important stuff is women's representation in cpc leadership and state posts
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Jan 25, 2018 00:20
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Any piece like "Iran bans English" or "China bans hip hop" or "Russia bans the color pink" is usually 99% bullshit crybaby Western propaganda.
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Jan 25, 2018 01:05
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Frijolero posted:Any piece like "Iran bans English" or "China bans hip hop" or "Russia bans the color pink" is usually 99% bullshit crybaby Western propaganda. russia did actually decriminalize domestic abuse tho. never underestimate the stupidity of the russian duma.
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Jan 25, 2018 01:18
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GoluboiOgon posted:russia did actually decriminalize domestic abuse tho. never underestimate the stupidity of the russian duma. I'm mean, I wouldn't call it stupidity so much as overt malevolence R. Guyovich posted:the government CAN be pretty retrograde but this isn't a particularly good example of that imo. the more important stuff is women's representation in cpc leadership and state posts How do the Chinese plan on fixing this? Would they do it through affirmative action, or a larger civil rights movement?
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Jan 25, 2018 02:03
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neoliberals posting chapo tweets is actually cultural appropriation
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Jan 25, 2018 02:31
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GoluboiOgon posted:russia did actually decriminalize domestic abuse tho. never underestimate the stupidity of the russian duma. Well Russia has done a lot of heinous poo poo in the past 20 years, but writing and circulating concern-troll articles about silly poo poo doesn't do anything.
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Jan 25, 2018 03:30
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Yossarian-22 posted:neoliberals posting chapo tweets is actually cultural appropriation the only culturally sacred chapo boy is the one that dresses like an oscar wilde impersonator and calls himself 'voltaire tennessee' or something
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Jan 25, 2018 05:43
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a hamprince post got a lol out of me. what is this world coming to??
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Jan 25, 2018 06:00
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Dreddout posted:How do the Chinese plan on fixing this? Would they do it through affirmative action, or a larger civil rights movement? that's a better question for an actual cpc member, but the membership has steadily increased the proportion of women over the years. it's still way out of whack. i'm sure the all-china women's federation has better answers, too.
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Jan 25, 2018 06:14
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i’m sure china didn’t really ban all hip hop. just a little bit of it, to protect the hip hoppers from cultural appropriation
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Jan 25, 2018 06:17
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party knows best when it comes to what a true xiist should listen to
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Jan 25, 2018 06:21
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i'm sure a censorship crackdown is going to be fuckin great for chinese hip hop, every video's gonna be a dude standing in front of a smiling crowd going like Yo my name's MC Xi and I'm here to say/ I love my great country in a major way Givin' love to the party and obeyin' each rule/ If someone says Tibet's a country then kill that fool
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Jan 25, 2018 06:25
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You can try all these excuses you like to cover up the fact that Ajit Singh was right, lmao.
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Jan 25, 2018 07:25
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You can try all these excuses you like to cover up the fact that Ajit Singh was right, lmao. ahahaha i looked at the tweet and singh cites a Global Times article lmao
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Jan 25, 2018 07:28
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That doesn't change the fact that half the people on this forum and on twitter got owned by a tankie, because none of them can read Chinese.
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Jan 25, 2018 07:49
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not actually banning all hip hop just the stuff that the old farts in the comintern don’t feel is spiritually socialist enough gotta enforce that aesthetic
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Jan 25, 2018 08:05
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R. Guyovich posted:i'm going by the original statement, which emphasizes the "four must nots" as universal requirements but in the section about hip-hop (嘻哈), it uses the term 节目 meaning "item on a program" or "program" rather than 广播电视 meaning "broadcast and television" more generally. this was the term used to address guests when discussing the "four must nots" but not the one used to discuss hip hop culture, tattoo artists, etc. idk about the other measures but it seems like western reporting is lumping in unrelated incidents. previous censorship has come after the women's league criticized artists and was done to specifically combat misogynistic lyrics, according to the statements put out that, again, no one actually reads. the drug use stuff is similar — promotion of drug culture is seen as incitement against the law. which is dumb, but, whatever assuming this is your source, that reading makes no sense. the directive doesn't name any one program in particular, and 节目 could just as easily be translated as "programs". i really hope you are arguing in bad faith here because the alternative is that you've somehow managed to spend weeks or months in china without learning how plurals work
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Jan 25, 2018 08:29
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Fallen Hamprince posted:assuming this is your source, that reading makes no sense. the directive doesn't name any one program in particular, and 节目 could just as easily be translated as "programs". i really hope you are arguing in bad faith here because the alternative is that you've somehow managed to spend weeks or months in china without learning how plurals work thank you for correcting me. the original statement uses "节目中" which is most often seen when referring to specific programs. a cursory baidu search will show this. you'll also notice this construction is distinct from earlier constructions in the statement, which only use "节目" and thus can be fairly inferred as plural. i appreciate your condescension, though!
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Jan 25, 2018 11:02
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meanwhile hip hop artists arent the only large demographic of people the commies would like to brainwash or dissapear
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Jan 25, 2018 12:07
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for some reason it’s the most downtrotten minority in china that ends up in the modern gulag, but i’m sure someone can explain this from a marxist theoretic perspective to the dumb liberal me
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Jan 25, 2018 12:11
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:for some reason it’s the most downtrotten minority in china that ends up in the modern gulag, but i’m sure someone can explain this from a marxist theoretic perspective to the dumb liberal me Putting reactionaries into re-education camps is better than drone bombing them indefinitely.
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Jan 25, 2018 13:18
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1aHYOyRphE
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Jan 25, 2018 13:20
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R. Guyovich posted:thank you for correcting me. the original statement uses "节目中" which is most often seen when referring to specific programs. a cursory baidu search will show this. you'll also notice this construction is distinct from earlier constructions in the statement, which only use "节目" and thus can be fairly inferred as plural. i appreciate your condescension, though! the '中' in this context means "in", and while it may be used to describe the contents of a particular program (which is the context in which you're probably seeing it most on baidu) SAPPRFT regulations like this one use it to mean 'the contents of a program', as in "（二）擅自在所传送的节目中插播节目、数据、图像、文字及其他信息的；" forbidding the transmission of unauthorized programs (节目), data (数据), images (图像) or other information in a broadcast (节目中, with 'zhōng' here indicating the containing relationship).
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Jan 25, 2018 15:10
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holy poo poo hamprince knows chinese fam
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Jan 25, 2018 15:27
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我说的不好 only 1300 characters 
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Jan 25, 2018 15:33
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i only have a tiny baby vocabulary of about 400 characters so i'm not going to pretend at authority on the language, but there is more ambiguity in the phrasing than you're letting on, especially since the sina report makes mention of the show which previously featured GAI. in any case it's irresponsible to report it like tattoo artists and rappers are being sent to gulags the way time did
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Jan 25, 2018 16:22
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time's reporting (as posted by karl barks) is entirely in line with what i've seen reported elsewhere fwiw
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Jan 25, 2018 16:31
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Fallen Hamprince posted:time's reporting (as posted by karl barks) is entirely in line with what i've seen reported elsewhere fwiw i single them out because they were first and other outlets piggybacked on the time report. same process as stories on the dprk
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Jan 25, 2018 16:39
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Putting reactionaries into re-education camps is better than drone bombing them indefinitely. if you dont want to be brutally exploited by the chinese forever you are a reactionary 
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Jan 25, 2018 17:47
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Putting reactionaries into re-education camps is better than drone bombing them indefinitely. Good job vindicating people who shout "what-aboutism" at the top of their lungs
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Jan 25, 2018 17:51
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Yossarian-22 posted:Good job vindicating people who shout "what-aboutism" at the top of their lungs They're always going to gripe about what-aboutism, who gives a poo poo. I literally said left wing authoritarianism is good ITT. If it were up to me every member of Army of God would be re-educated, along with everyone else who supports anti-abortion terrorism.
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Jan 25, 2018 20:16
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