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Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009


In his defense he said "smaller than he thought," not small.

Still

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Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Grittybeard posted:

Hot radar gun?

I can buy Allen would have more velocity on throws, I'm not sure I buy that he has that margin of velocity over Mahomes.
As far as Im aware either Logan Thomas or Mahomes has the Combine record at 60ish so I'm guessing hot.

e: Mahomes rips off a 62mph here:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap3000000800836/Can-Patrick-Mahomes-throw-faster-than-David-Carr

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

A list of elites

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Henchman of Santa posted:

A list of elites

it's all last year's combine QBs

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
Here's a great list of past velocity measurements

http://blogs.ourlads.com/2017/03/16/quarterback-ball-velocity-at-nfl-combine-2008-2015/

Actually:
code:
Name, College, NFL Team – Ball Velocity in MPH
Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech, Bills (TE) - 60
Bryan Bennet, SE Louisiana, free agent - 60
Pat Mahomes, Texas Tech, TBD - 60

Davis Webb, California, TBD - 59
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State, Texans– 59
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada, free agent- 59
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State, Redskins - 59
Zac Dysert, Miami (OH), Cardinals- 59
Tyler Bray, Tennessee, Chiefs - 59
Stephen Morris, Miami, Colts - 59
Paxton Lynch, Memphis, Broncos - 59

Jared Goff, California, Rams - 58
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas, Ravens- 58
Austin Davis, Southern Mississippi, free agent- 58

Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Eagles - 57
Nick Foles, Arizona, Eagles - 57
Mark Sanchez, USC, Bears- 57
Josh Freeman, Kansas State, Free Agent - 57
Chase Daniels, Missouri, Saints - 57
Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois, free agent- 57
Tom Savage, Pittsburgh, Texans - 57
Sean Mannion, Oregon State, Rams - 57
Brandon Bridge, South Alabama, free agent - 57

DeShon Kizer, Notre Dame, TBD - 56
Andy Dalton, TCU, Bengals - 56
Cam Newton, Auburn, Panthers - 56
Colt McCoy, Texas, Redskins- 56 (recorded in a private workout with a radar gun & computer chip in the football)
Ryan Nassib, Syracuse, free agent– 56
Curtis Painter, Purdue, free agent- 56
Brad Sorensen, Southern Utah, free agent - 56
Patrick Devlin, Delaware, free agent- 56
Josh Woodrum, Liberty, Bills - 56
Blake Bortles, Central Florida, Jaguars - 56
Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois, Patriots - 56
Marcus Mariota, Oregon, Titans - 56
Jacoby Brissett, North Carolina State, Patriots - 56
Jeff Mathews, Cornell, free agent - 56
Keith Wenning, Ball State, Giants - 56
Joel Stave, Wisconsin, Chiefs - 56
Christian Hackenberg, Penn State, Jets - 56
Anthony Boone, Duke, free agent - 56

Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina, TBD - 55
Jerod Evans, Virginia Tech, TBD - 55
Trevor Knight, Texan A&M, TBD - 55
Jameis Winston, Florida State, Buccaneers - 55
Joe Flacco, Delaware, Ravens - 55
Geno Smith, West Virginia, Giants- 55
CJ Beathard, Iowa, TBD - 55
Trevon Boykin, TCU, Seahawks - 55
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin, Seahawks - 55
Brandon Allen, Arkansas, Jaguars - 55
Cody Kessler, USC, Browns - 55
Cody Fajardo, Nevada, free agent - 55
Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois, free agent - 55
Casey Keenum, Houston, Vikings - 55
Tyler Wilson, Arkansas, free agent - 55​
Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin, Colts - 55

Dak Prescott, Mississippi State, Cowboys - 54
Tajh Boyd, Clemson, free agent - 54
Bryn Renner, North Carolina, free agent - 54
Nate Sudfeld, Indiana, Redskins - 54
Jake Locker, Washington, free agent- 54
EJ Manuel, Florida State, Raiders - 54
Matthew Scott, Arizona, free agent - 54

Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh, TBD - 53
Brad Kaaya, Miami, TBD - 53
David Fales, San Jose State, Dolphins - 53
AJ McCarron, Alabama, Bengals - 53
Brett Hundley, UCLA, Packers - 53
Kevin Hogan, Stanford, Browns - 53
Brandon Doughty, Western Kentucky, Dolphins - 53
Vernon Adams, Oregon, free agent - 53
Mitch Leidner, Minnesota, TBD - 53
Bryce Petty, Baylor, Jets - 53
Dustin Vaughan, West Texas A&M, Ravens - 53
Landry Jones, Oklahoma, Steelers - 53
Chad Henne, Michigan, Jaguars - 53
Stephen McGee, Texas A & M - 53

Shane Carden, Eastern Carolina, free agent, 52
Jeff Driskel, Louisiana Tech, Bengals - 52
Seth Russell, Baylor, TBD - 52
Graham Harrell, Texas Tech, free agent - 52
Pat White, West Virginia, free agent - 52
Kellen Moore, Boise State, Cowboys - 52
TJ Yates, North Carolina, free agent - 52
Michael Kafka, Northwestern, free agent - 52
Zac Robinson, Oklahoma St., free agent - 52
Ryan Lindley, San Diego State, free agent - 52

Josh Dobbs, Tennessee, TBD -51
Jerry Lovelocke, Praire View A&M, free agent - 51
Christian Ponder, Florida St, free agent - 51
Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech, free agent - 51

Matt Flynn, LSU, free agent -- 50
John Skelton, Fordham, free agent - 50
Ricky Stanzi, Iowa, free agent - 50
Tyrod Taylor, Va Tech, Bills- 50
Connor Cook, Michigan, Raiders - 50
Connor Shaw, South Carolina, Bears - 50
Nick Marshall, Auburn, Bengals - 50

Deshaun Watson, Clemson, TBD - 49
Michael Glennon, North Carolina State, Bears - 49
Josh Johnson, San Diego, Giants - 49
Sefo Liufau, Colorado, TBD - 46
Cooper Rush, Central Michigan, TBD - 46
Blake Sims, Alabama, free agent - 42 

DID NOT THROW:
Matt Ryan, Boston College, Falcons - Did not throw
Robert Griffin III, Baylor, Browns- Did not throw
Andrew Luck, Stanford, Colts - Did not throw
Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Vikings- Did not throw
Matt Stafford, Georgia, Lions - Did not throw
Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M, Dolphins - Did not throw
Brock Osweiler, Arizona State, Browns- Did not throw
Tim Tebow, Florida, Free Agent - Did not throw
Sean Renfree, Duke, Buccaneers – Did not throw
Matt Barkley, Southern Ca, 49ers - Did not throw
Greg McElroy, Alabama, free agent - Did not throw
Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, free agent- Did not throw
Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville, Vikings – Did not throw
Derek Carr, Fresno State, Raiders – Did not throw
Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, free agent – Did not throw
Zach Mettenberger, LSU, Steelers – Did not throw
Aaron Murray, Georgia, Rams – Did not throw
Garrett Grayson, Colorado State, Saints - Did not throw
Connor Halliday, Washington State, free agent - Did not throw
Cardale Jones, Ohio State, Bills - Did not throw

Doltos fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jan 25, 2018

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

Grittybeard posted:

Spread your hand out as far as possible, the measurement is tip of the thumb to tip of the pinky.

What?

I literally just did it and got 9 inches and my hands are smallish.

EDIT: I refuse to believe that anyone can match Stafford's velocity.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Grittybeard posted:

Hot radar gun?

I can buy Allen would have more velocity on throws, I'm not sure I buy that he has that margin of velocity over Mahomes.

He throws stupid loving hard but he can't actually get the ball to anyone.

Did they post numbers for anyone besides Allen?

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
How fast was the ball going that hit Stuart Scott in the eye?

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

seiferguy posted:

How fast was the ball going that hit Stuart Scott in the eye?

The ball came from a jugs machine, and they're variable speed, so the world may never know.

D C
Jun 20, 2004

1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING

Bigass Moth posted:

The ball came from a jugs machine, and they're variable speed, so the world may never know.

The dream is getting hit in the face by jugs.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Alaois posted:

it's all last year's combine QBs

Ah, I had Webb as "Joe Webb" and then thought the other guys were more spread out than that

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Love to read draft coverage

https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/956934220731027457

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames
"May sneak out, unless he stays." Hard hitting journalism right there.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
The Mayfield stories are so loving stupid

quote:

Baker Mayfield can’t shake drama, image of the ‘bad boy, the Johnny Manziel stuff’
https://sports.yahoo.com/baker-mayfield-cant-shake-drama-image-bad-boy-johnny-manziel-stuff-040418092.html

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

I can't figure out which is dumber, the idea that rosen has character issues because he periodically says stuff that is correct, or the idea that mayfield has character issues because he grabbed his dong once

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide

PupsOfWar posted:

I can't figure out which is dumber, the idea that rosen has character issues because he periodically says stuff that is correct, or the idea that mayfield has character issues because he grabbed his dong once

as someone who has grabbed their dong trust me, once you grab it once you'll never stop

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Raku posted:

as someone who has grabbed their dong trust me, once you grab it once you'll never stop

Exactly.

I'm grabbing my dong right now.

ragle
Nov 1, 2009

Mayfield did arrive late. He said he'd stay through Saturday's game but there are conflicting reports of whether he is still in Mobile; if not, he "snuck out early."

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/956626053388218368
https://twitter.com/TheRealPres10/status/956926470097645568

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization


ragle posted:

Mayfield did arrive late. He said he'd stay through Saturday's game but there are conflicting reports of whether he is still in Mobile; if not, he "snuck out early.

"fashionably late" implies he's an rear end in a top hat while visiting his mom in the hospital does not.

Lol if it turns out he "snuck out" to go to the hospital though

Raku posted:

as someone who has grabbed their dong trust me, once you grab it once you'll never stop

Sadly I only have two hands

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Well I don't care if this is fake or not; to me, it's poetry

https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/956938043193266177

schweens
Jan 14, 2011

kakarot ain't got shit on me

Doltos posted:

Here's a great list of past velocity measurements

http://blogs.ourlads.com/2017/03/16/quarterback-ball-velocity-at-nfl-combine-2008-2015/

Actually:
code:
Name, College, NFL Team – Ball Velocity in MPH
Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech, Bills (TE) - 60
Bryan Bennet, SE Louisiana, free agent - 60
Pat Mahomes, Texas Tech, TBD - 60

Davis Webb, California, TBD - 59
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State, Texans– 59
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada, free agent- 59
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State, Redskins - 59
Zac Dysert, Miami (OH), Cardinals- 59
Tyler Bray, Tennessee, Chiefs - 59
Stephen Morris, Miami, Colts - 59
Paxton Lynch, Memphis, Broncos - 59

Jared Goff, California, Rams - 58
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas, Ravens- 58
Austin Davis, Southern Mississippi, free agent- 58

Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Eagles - 57
Nick Foles, Arizona, Eagles - 57
Mark Sanchez, USC, Bears- 57
Josh Freeman, Kansas State, Free Agent - 57
Chase Daniels, Missouri, Saints - 57
Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois, free agent- 57
Tom Savage, Pittsburgh, Texans - 57
Sean Mannion, Oregon State, Rams - 57
Brandon Bridge, South Alabama, free agent - 57

DeShon Kizer, Notre Dame, TBD - 56
Andy Dalton, TCU, Bengals - 56
Cam Newton, Auburn, Panthers - 56
Colt McCoy, Texas, Redskins- 56 (recorded in a private workout with a radar gun & computer chip in the football)
Ryan Nassib, Syracuse, free agent– 56
Curtis Painter, Purdue, free agent- 56
Brad Sorensen, Southern Utah, free agent - 56
Patrick Devlin, Delaware, free agent- 56
Josh Woodrum, Liberty, Bills - 56
Blake Bortles, Central Florida, Jaguars - 56
Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois, Patriots - 56
Marcus Mariota, Oregon, Titans - 56
Jacoby Brissett, North Carolina State, Patriots - 56
Jeff Mathews, Cornell, free agent - 56
Keith Wenning, Ball State, Giants - 56
Joel Stave, Wisconsin, Chiefs - 56
Christian Hackenberg, Penn State, Jets - 56
Anthony Boone, Duke, free agent - 56

Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina, TBD - 55
Jerod Evans, Virginia Tech, TBD - 55
Trevor Knight, Texan A&M, TBD - 55
Jameis Winston, Florida State, Buccaneers - 55
Joe Flacco, Delaware, Ravens - 55
Geno Smith, West Virginia, Giants- 55
CJ Beathard, Iowa, TBD - 55
Trevon Boykin, TCU, Seahawks - 55
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin, Seahawks - 55
Brandon Allen, Arkansas, Jaguars - 55
Cody Kessler, USC, Browns - 55
Cody Fajardo, Nevada, free agent - 55
Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois, free agent - 55
Casey Keenum, Houston, Vikings - 55
Tyler Wilson, Arkansas, free agent - 55​
Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin, Colts - 55

Dak Prescott, Mississippi State, Cowboys - 54
Tajh Boyd, Clemson, free agent - 54
Bryn Renner, North Carolina, free agent - 54
Nate Sudfeld, Indiana, Redskins - 54
Jake Locker, Washington, free agent- 54
EJ Manuel, Florida State, Raiders - 54
Matthew Scott, Arizona, free agent - 54

Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh, TBD - 53
Brad Kaaya, Miami, TBD - 53
David Fales, San Jose State, Dolphins - 53
AJ McCarron, Alabama, Bengals - 53
Brett Hundley, UCLA, Packers - 53
Kevin Hogan, Stanford, Browns - 53
Brandon Doughty, Western Kentucky, Dolphins - 53
Vernon Adams, Oregon, free agent - 53
Mitch Leidner, Minnesota, TBD - 53
Bryce Petty, Baylor, Jets - 53
Dustin Vaughan, West Texas A&M, Ravens - 53
Landry Jones, Oklahoma, Steelers - 53
Chad Henne, Michigan, Jaguars - 53
Stephen McGee, Texas A & M - 53

Shane Carden, Eastern Carolina, free agent, 52
Jeff Driskel, Louisiana Tech, Bengals - 52
Seth Russell, Baylor, TBD - 52
Graham Harrell, Texas Tech, free agent - 52
Pat White, West Virginia, free agent - 52
Kellen Moore, Boise State, Cowboys - 52
TJ Yates, North Carolina, free agent - 52
Michael Kafka, Northwestern, free agent - 52
Zac Robinson, Oklahoma St., free agent - 52
Ryan Lindley, San Diego State, free agent - 52

Josh Dobbs, Tennessee, TBD -51
Jerry Lovelocke, Praire View A&M, free agent - 51
Christian Ponder, Florida St, free agent - 51
Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech, free agent - 51

Matt Flynn, LSU, free agent -- 50
John Skelton, Fordham, free agent - 50
Ricky Stanzi, Iowa, free agent - 50
Tyrod Taylor, Va Tech, Bills- 50
Connor Cook, Michigan, Raiders - 50
Connor Shaw, South Carolina, Bears - 50
Nick Marshall, Auburn, Bengals - 50

Deshaun Watson, Clemson, TBD - 49
Michael Glennon, North Carolina State, Bears - 49
Josh Johnson, San Diego, Giants - 49
Sefo Liufau, Colorado, TBD - 46
Cooper Rush, Central Michigan, TBD - 46
Blake Sims, Alabama, free agent - 42 

DID NOT THROW:
Matt Ryan, Boston College, Falcons - Did not throw
Robert Griffin III, Baylor, Browns- Did not throw
Andrew Luck, Stanford, Colts - Did not throw
Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Vikings- Did not throw
Matt Stafford, Georgia, Lions - Did not throw
Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M, Dolphins - Did not throw
Brock Osweiler, Arizona State, Browns- Did not throw
Tim Tebow, Florida, Free Agent - Did not throw
Sean Renfree, Duke, Buccaneers – Did not throw
Matt Barkley, Southern Ca, 49ers - Did not throw
Greg McElroy, Alabama, free agent - Did not throw
Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, free agent- Did not throw
Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville, Vikings – Did not throw
Derek Carr, Fresno State, Raiders – Did not throw
Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, free agent – Did not throw
Zach Mettenberger, LSU, Steelers – Did not throw
Aaron Murray, Georgia, Rams – Did not throw
Garrett Grayson, Colorado State, Saints - Did not throw
Connor Halliday, Washington State, free agent - Did not throw
Cardale Jones, Ohio State, Bills - Did not throw

Lmao at #1 being a TE, a free agent, and Mahomes.

Also is that Colt McCoy story as fishy as it appears

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Banner week for ESPN Cleveland.

Rizzo rants nearly incoherently about Joe Thomas and now Grossi can't fathom someone caring about their mom.

Edit: my cousin just informed me they're both known coke heads. They used to write in Cleveland back when new papers mattered. Good as any sources either bother to dig up.

Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jan 26, 2018

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I hope ol' man Coughlin can find a tight end or something late in the first round.

Man, it feels weird to be picking outside the top ten. :randstare:

ragle
Nov 1, 2009
Mayfield has a lot of tape throwing very accurately, in a perfect pocket behind a dominant o-line, to open receivers
in the 2nd half of the Georgia game his size seemed to limit his ability to withstand pressure of the sort he's likely to see in the NFL
If he had a good Senior Bowl game it probably wouldn't help him much because he's already top half of the 1st round (limited draft ceiling because 6'0"), but if he showed the same weaknesses as in the Georgia game it could drop him.
He's probably skipping the game because his representatives told him that's best for his draft position($$$).

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

ragle posted:

Mayfield has a lot of tape throwing very accurately, in a perfect pocket behind a dominant o-line, to open receivers
in the 2nd half of the Georgia game his size seemed to limit his ability to withstand pressure of the sort he's likely to see in the NFL
If he had a good Senior Bowl game it probably wouldn't help him much because he's already top half of the 1st round (limited draft ceiling because 6'0"), but if he showed the same weaknesses as in the Georgia game it could drop him.
He's probably skipping the game because his representatives told him that's best for his draft position($$$).

No seriously his mom has heart issues. He seems to be in this dumb no win situation. If he didn't go he'd be "flaky" and since he did and prioritizes his mom over the game he's a flake. This is stupid.

https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/status/956951765345325057

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

Ches Neckbeard posted:

No seriously his mom has heart issues. He seems to be in this dumb no win situation. If he didn't go he'd be "flaky" and since he did and prioritizes his mom over the game he's a flake. This is stupid.

https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/status/956951765345325057

That motherfucker! Johnny Manziel 2.0 i tell ya

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Y'all don't tell Tannehill but I so badly want Mayfield.

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization


Wow so you're saying his mother is also his cocaine dealer and they get it through the hospital??? That's a bad egg, I'll tell you what

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Ches Neckbeard posted:

Banner week for ESPN Cleveland.

Rizzo rants nearly incoherently about Joe Thomas and now Grossi can't fathom someone caring about their mom.

Edit: my cousin just informed me they're both known coke heads. They used to write in Cleveland back when new papers mattered. Good as any sources either bother to dig up.

Tony Grossi spends all his money at Tommy Bahama, he has nothing left over for cocaine.

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.
Best summary of Senior Bowl practice skill players:

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2018/01/...campaign=buffer

On Josh Allen:

quote:

I hope it doesn’t happen, but if a team buys into Allen as a franchise passer, it’s getting a player whose only differentiating assets are his size and arm. He’s not consistently accurate in a variety of important scenarios and when he isn’t rushing his decision-making, he’s not putting his teammates in positions that maximize their skills. Franchise quarterbacks are good at finding simple solutions to problems but Allen creates difficult scenarios when there is an easier path.

While possible that Allen can mature and refine his game, his playing style has a lot of similarities to DeShone Kizer — except Kizer was a better prospect and the prospect of him being cast aside after a year is a foolish decision steeped in questionable motives involving organizational leadership that has lost its way and political in-fighting. Place Allen in a rudderless, fingerpointing environment where he must start immediately with immature and subpar surrounding talent at wide receiver and Allen’s on-field behavior when under stress could also indicate that his confidence will also crater.

Create an organizational development plan for Allen with intermittent playing time and a goal of him starting full-time 2-3 years from now, and it will be his best chance to learn and make mistakes without losing him completely. Because this rarely happens and the possibility that Allen’s ranking is an agent-influenced big media push, Allen is the player at this event in the greatest danger of getting victimized by the business end of the NFL.

On Baker:

quote:

Mayfield offers enough skill to earn consideration as a future NFL starter. However, I’m still evaluating the breadth of his upside after seeing the nature of his struggles.

I also know he hasn’t enlisted the help of any coaching to refine the technical tools of his game. Maybe Mayfield will go that route at some point, but quarterbacks usually have a tutor at this point if not much earlier.

Mayfield considered not going with an agent so combined with the news above, there could be a pattern of behavior with Mayfield that makes him less trustful of outside help. I get it. Fast-money performance-related jobs are filled with predatory people posing as teachers, advisors, and protectors.

However, the margin of error in the NFL is much smaller than the Big 12. If Mayfield advances his own game with DYI development practices, he’ll possess extraordinary wisdom and insight based on limited exposure to a level of play that he hasn’t experienced.

I like Mayfield’s game, but I don’t love it — and I’m worried that he’s mistaking “betting on himself” for not asking for help. Kind of like breaking the pocket to throw on the move rather than learning how to better rely on his linemen and staying there for easier results that were there to exploit.

And a lot of good looks at pass catchers and runners.

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS

Ehud posted:

Y'all don't tell Tannehill but I so badly want Mayfield.

Why would you want to replace Tannehill

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Bigass Moth posted:

Tony Grossi spends all his money at Tommy Bahama, he has nothing left over for cocaine.

I hate Grossi

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/956975225979228161

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

I wonder how much he is getting paid.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

nerve posted:

Why would you want to replace Tannehill

Couple of things going on here...

Tannehill’s next start will be his first one in almost two years after partially tearing, rehabbing and then completely tearing his ACL. And he’s already 30. I know dudes are playing forever now, but those injuries and the fact that he’s been hit a million times leads me to believe he’s an old 30. He might not be the same guy who was playing well before the injury.

We don’t have another QB on the roster who can start a game. Moore is done and David Fales sucks.

So we need somebody on the roster whose floor is guy who can start a game in a pinch and whose ceiling is starting QB.

And finally, I think you should not pass on drafting a guy if you think he might be better than the guy you’ve currently got on the roster.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Why did I think Tannehill was only ~26???

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

GobiasIndustries posted:

Why did I think Tannehill was only ~26???

He was maybe older than most when he came into the league.

Drafted in 2012. Completed his senior season and had a redshirt year at Aggie.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013


If you go purely by their aggregated college stats, it's not the worst comparison.

M Stafford 564/987, 57.1%, 7731 Yards, 7.8 Y/A, 51 TD, 33 INT
Josh Allen 365/649, 56.2%, 5066 Yards, 7.8 Y/A, 44 TD, 21 INT

But Stafford got better every year. Allen got worse.

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails

Shangri-Law School posted:

If you go purely by their aggregated college stats, it's not the worst comparison.

M Stafford 564/987, 57.1%, 7731 Yards, 7.8 Y/A, 51 TD, 33 INT
Josh Allen 365/649, 56.2%, 5066 Yards, 7.8 Y/A, 44 TD, 21 INT

But Stafford got better every year. Allen got worse.

Stafford was also playing in the SEC not the Big Abyss or whatever

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pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Ehud posted:

Couple of things going on here...

Tannehill’s next start will be his first one in almost two years after partially tearing, rehabbing and then completely tearing his ACL. And he’s already 30. I know dudes are playing forever now, but those injuries and the fact that he’s been hit a million times leads me to believe he’s an old 30. He might not be the same guy who was playing well before the injury.

We don’t have another QB on the roster who can start a game. Moore is done and David Fales sucks.

So we need somebody on the roster whose floor is guy who can start a game in a pinch and whose ceiling is starting QB.

And finally, I think you should not pass on drafting a guy if you think he might be better than the guy you’ve currently got on the roster.

Motherfucker is 30?!?!?

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