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Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
Do not demand of politics that it restore the rights of the individual, as philosophy has defined them. The individual is the product of power. What is needed is to “de-individualize” by means of multiplication and displacement, diverse combinations. The group must not be the organic bond uniting hierarchized individuals, but a constant generator of de-individualization.

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Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



It almost seems like that these inbalances of power are transversal to cultures and time and are some kind of struggle between diferent classes of people,but what could it be?

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Lizard people?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ungarino/status/956517740600266752
https://twitter.com/ungarino/status/956518527074226177
https://twitter.com/ungarino/status/956519317025247232

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Inescapable Duck posted:

Hierarchy is the key problem.

This is my conclusion, too. No idea what to do about it. Don't even know where to begin.

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

Accretionist posted:

This is my conclusion, too. No idea what to do about it. Don't even know where to begin.

take all of our lovely recommendation algorithms that have been ruining our lives and train them to fit on difference instead of similarity.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Accretionist posted:

This is my conclusion, too. No idea what to do about it. Don't even know where to begin.

If you come to this conclusion (which I kinda think is a bit wrong) you inevitably have to realize through examination of history that the disruption of higherarchical systems comes from violence almost exclusively

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:



*pulls lever for trump*

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

ikanreed posted:

If you come to this conclusion (which I kinda think is a bit wrong) you inevitably have to realize through examination of history that the disruption of higherarchical systems comes from violence almost exclusively
And those reformed systems invariably slide back into dysfunction as large numbers of people all give up their newly-decentralized power to some new stand-in who preaches fear and reminds everyone how bad the world sucks, then promises safety/security/stability in exchange for recreating that structure.


Also, for some reason every government ever says that it is a major crime to try and overthrow your government, no matter how terrible it is. Maybe... those with power (almost) always want more and (almost) never give it up willingly??

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/956527087782899712
https://twitter.com/HFlassbeckEcon/status/956529885413040128

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Accretionist posted:

This is my conclusion, too. No idea what to do about it. Don't even know where to begin.

Holy poo poo, do I get to unironically tell someone to google Murray Bookchin?

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Oh good America's weak wristed "oh the subset of poor who don't deserve to be poor are too poor" rhetoric has hit labour

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Goon Danton posted:

Holy poo poo, do I get to unironically tell someone to google Murray Bookchin?

just cut to the chase and tell them to join the YPG

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Goon Danton posted:

Holy poo poo, do I get to unironically tell someone to google Murray Bookchin?

Yeup, thanks! Gonna read up Communalism later

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Accretionist posted:

This is my conclusion, too. No idea what to do about it. Don't even know where to begin.

listen to street fight

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

StashAugustine posted:

just cut to the chase and tell them to join the YPG

:sweatdrop:

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

lol those stock photo people are internet famous now

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry
^ lol :yeah:


but is he cheatin on bae with that hot piece who just walked by??

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



political liberalism (in the classic, european sense) is probably the individualistic philosophy people think of when they say the west is individualistic

i would say the west is not individualistic like that anymore in the age of neoliberalism. in today's society you are more expected to sublimate yourselves to the needs of "the economy" (which in actuality is nothing but brute power of other more powerful people) than be self-sufficient

Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Jan 25, 2018

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



struggling to pay the bills from our couples therapist

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Shear Modulus posted:

in today's society you are more expected to sublimate yourselves to the needs of "the economy" (which in actuality is nothing but brute power of other more powerful people) than be self-sufficient

this is getting really weird in the modern era with like confused youtubers sacrificing their children to the algorithm to get those sweet related video links

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/956586895810600962

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/anildash/status/956528648256999425

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
But isn't it that we have a disconnect between paper wealth (and where the billionaire's wealth increases stem from) which lays claims to what is out there and material wealth that is an expression of what's out there?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

But isn't it that we have a disconnect between paper wealth (and where the billionaire's wealth increases stem from) which lays claims to what is out there and material wealth that is an expression of what's out there?

look I'm no economist but I do know deep in the core of my being that guillotining every billionaire and nationalizing their assets to be put to the public good will fix almost everything

What are the millionaires who survived the purges gonna say, that all the stuff making them a millionaire is made up and fake?

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

imaginary money buys real estate

redsniper
Feb 15, 2012
Robinhood, the commission free stock trading app, sent me an email saying you can trade crypto now, lol. I'm pretty sure they don't allow real currency or futures trading because it's too volatile. :v:

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

But isn't it that we have a disconnect between paper wealth (and where the billionaire's wealth increases stem from) which lays claims to what is out there and material wealth that is an expression of what's out there?

There is, but that just highlights the sad fact that we've had all the real resources to fix poverty for a very long time, and just... don't. This is where the "more empty houses than homeless people" type facts come in.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Its really disgusting to see the property management companies and rentseekers continue to jack up rent despite the growing vaccancies. I guess 1 tech bro pays the rent for 5 regular people so that doesnt bother the owners.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Epic High Five posted:

look I'm no economist but I do know deep in the core of my being that guillotining every billionaire and nationalizing their assets to be put to the public good will fix almost everything

What are the millionaires who survived the purges gonna say, that all the stuff making them a millionaire is made up and fake?
This sounds like a lot of effort. just guillotine the single richest billionaire every so often and they’ll figure out how to redistribute their assets by themselves pretty quickly.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

https://twitter.com/Arcon_/status/956440759955111936

https://twitter.com/Arcon_/status/956615124642496512

crypto is good now

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




is this the one that billed itself as a "legitimate ponzi" and said you could become rich if you turned out to be one of the first buyers and sold before he ran off with the money then ran off with the money

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
it is, also the creator said that it was a joke and stopped selling his currency because he said too many people were buying in with serious money anyways.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

This owns

snoo
Jul 5, 2007





i just feel so loving angry about these people who could change literal billions of lives but choose not to because they're hoarders

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

you're so close to seeing the true answer, anil... put two and two together, then you'll see richdeath

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




The Snoo posted:

i just feel so loving angry about these people who could change literal billions of lives but choose not to because they're hoarders

eh capitalists are also slaves to capital. not that we shouldnt guillotine the lot of them

J. P. Beagley
Apr 11, 2008

Also $X billion to solve extreme poverty ignores the fact that poverty isn't just a deficit of money. The sentiment is nice but it's not like just paying off a debt or something.

Still, take all their money anyway. You just need to reform the global economic system, too. Two very easy things to do.

J. P. Beagley fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Jan 26, 2018

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe

Shear Modulus posted:

is this the one that billed itself as a "legitimate ponzi" and said you could become rich if you turned out to be one of the first buyers and sold before he ran off with the money then ran off with the money

the bitcointalk forums had a subforum specifically for explicit ponzi schemes, and people did invest in them on that exact principle

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Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro
It's sort of like those articles that estimate the extinction of bees could cost up to $217 billion dollars annually, or that unmitigated climate change will cause a 23% reduction in GDP growth by 2100. It's hilariously naive theory crafting that doesn't really understand what we're up against.

The wealth inequality gap grew at an exponentially accelerating pace, but it's not like capitalists grew 300% better at investing in 2017. It's because the central banks have been in a state of critical meltdown since 2008 and have been flooding the economy with cheap debt to bid up asset prices. Let's say Jeff Bezos dreamed he saw Joe Hill last night and decides to spend all of his wealth feeding the hungry, how is he going to cash out without causing the casino to collapse on top of him? He can spend all his money and it'll work for a while, but because of the massive imbalance between paper wealth and real goods, it would just exhaust the purchasing power of the dollar while bidding up the price of food.

The sad thing is the article isn't totally wrong. Humanity has actual, pressing and immediate problems that need to be addressed. If the effort that went into the GFC had instead been diverted to rebuilding society into something that didn't look like a planet killing Ponzi scheme, we could be halfway there by now. Instead the world's elite decided the best allocation of resources was to continue gambling with the martingale betting system.

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