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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:"Benjamin Lafayette Sisko, what the hell has gotten into your head? You actually thought I was one of them, didn't you?" If you were really dedicated, you would have ended your post by going into cardiac arrest.
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counterfeitsaint posted:If you were really dedicated, you would have ended your post by going into cardiac arrest. 
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Discovery ships are cool and good. I want to build little models of them. A++ I have found a gumbo recipe with lotus root. If I can find said root, I plan to be slurping loudly when we get to that scene this weekend.
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the federation ships are loving rad, but the klingon ones are mostly poo poo the klingon ships do look awesome when they've been exploded. weird gossamer glass and a debris field of pointlessly spiky bits that goes on forever
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Jan 26, 2018 02:20
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Hopefully Lorca and Ash Tyler both die in a console explosion so Burnham can happily cruise the prime Alpha Quadrant with Tilly and Saru.
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Jan 26, 2018 02:38
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Delthalaz posted:Hopefully Lorca and Ash Tyler both die in a console explosion so Burnham can happily cruise the prime Alpha Quadrant with Tilly and Saru. Star Trek Explody Consoles Filled With Rocks (patent pending)
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Jan 26, 2018 03:05
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Lotus root is my favorite vegetable and it makes me sad that you can't get it in most places in the US.
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Jan 26, 2018 03:49
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id watch the thicc adventures of captain killy like 40 hours a day
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Jan 26, 2018 04:00
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Sadly, as much as B5 was excellent, I find that it is ageing quite poorly. There are some really rough quality issues with the writing. Or maybe I've just watched it too many times. I'd disagree. I'm a few episodes into season two right now and I'd say it holds up well. The rough patches in the writing were rough back in the 90s, and the good stuff is still gold. https://www.go90.com/shows/babylon5
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:"Benjamin Lafayette Sisko, what the hell has gotten into your head? You actually thought I was one of them, didn't you?"
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The new federation ships look fine, because they conform to existing starfleet design language. Someone familiar with Star Trek who hasn’t seen anything of discovery can be shown a picture of one of them and instantly recognise it as a starfleet ship. The Klingon ships look awful because they tried to radically redesign them. They certainly aren’t in any way recognisable as being Klingon ships.
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Jan 26, 2018 04:53
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Yea, The Federation ships look fine, and consistent with established designs for Federation ships. The Hoover makes me laugh because it kind of looks like a Roomba. The Klingon ships are terrible. Look at that Bird of Prey. The classic one is one of the best designed ships ever.  They visually say "I am aggressive, I am made to attack". They look like a Football player or Wrestling flexing, ready to gently caress you up. The Disco BoP, I don't know what the gently caress that is. Its got wings, and that's about it. Spacedock has a good video on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLRoxQVoh3M This is a great channel if you're a giant nerd about space ships like I am.
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The Lord Bude posted:The new federation ships look fine, because they conform to existing starfleet design language. Someone familiar with Star Trek who hasn’t seen anything of discovery can be shown a picture of one of them and instantly recognise it as a starfleet ship. The Klingon ships look awful because they tried to radically redesign them. They certainly aren’t in any way recognisable as being Klingon ships. I can agree with this. The starfeet ships are fine. Though, I'll just say fine. Anything non-Discovery we have seen is still infected by Eaveitus. The Klingon stuff is just all spikey and ill-defined.
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Jan 26, 2018 04:58
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The DISCO Bird of Prey looks pretty good imo, like an ancient ceremonial weapon. The rest of the Klingon ships are pretty garbage though. No cohesive design. The Hoover and Magee class look pretty stupid too haha, but at least you can tell they are from the Federation.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, The Federation ships look fine, and consistent with established designs for Federation ships. The Hoover makes me laugh because it kind of looks like a Roomba. The most important thing I learned from this image is that there exists a USS Shran. I no longer care about anything else in Star Fleet and just wanna know about that ship.
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I had no idea that was even supposed to be a Bird of Prey, I was confused why they had Stargate Death Gliders in that one episode.
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Jan 26, 2018 05:31
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Jan 26, 2018 05:48
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the bridge and upper nacel section of the nimitz class looks more like a bird of prey than the new one now I want an episode where some plucky klingon engineer completely rips off the design and goes on to kill many, many muthafuckas for kahless with it that transport looking thing in the bottom right corner is also baller as gently caress, pure pimp cargo liner
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Jan 26, 2018 05:52
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I.K.S. Funkbus
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Jan 26, 2018 05:54
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My favorite space ship (trek/nasa/wars/bsg/other) is the movie K’Tinga. It is clearly a big ol’ penis.
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Jan 26, 2018 05:57
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Viola Davis has been doing TV for years now. So did Glen Close. Meryl Streep is joining Big Little Lies next season. But sure, people in this thread just KNOW there is absolutely no way CBS could possibly afford Jason Issacs any longer. Please.
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Jan 26, 2018 05:58
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The Klingon ships all really do look like rear end. The space bus thing is fine if it's just like a transport ship or something. The Shran and the Space Roomba suck too, rest I'm okay with. I like the Yeager.
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CaveGrinch posted:Viola Davis has been doing TV for years now. So did Glen Close. Meryl Streep is joining Big Little Lies next season. They can certainly afford him. I don't see how he stays in the main cast though, unless his non-mirror self exists still and unfortunately that dude wouldn't be nearly as fun. Maybe he just doesn't give a gently caress in either universe? I just hope they don't kill him so he can come back in a future arc.
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Grand Fromage posted:They can certainly afford him. I don't see how he stays in the main cast though, unless his non-mirror self exists still and unfortunately that dude wouldn't be nearly as fun. Maybe he just doesn't give a gently caress in either universe? Get L'Rell to do some brain surgery on him too. 
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It's already established that Shakespeare's plays are exactly the same in both universes, it'd be funny if Lorca is just kind of a dick in both too.
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counterfeitsaint posted:The most important thing I learned from this image is that there exists a USS Shran. I no longer care about anything else in Star Fleet and just wanna know about that ship. It's too bad its a McCree class, so it looks like butt. I feel like what they wanted to do is show that each of the Klingon Houses or Clans or whatever had their own ships that were unique to that faction, but rather than have a good variety it just ended up with a bunch of ships that look random and over designed, replacing what was one of the most iconic villain ships in sci-fi. I honestly think only the Star Destroyer ranks higher than the BoP.
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I don't know what the Klingon ships look like because they seem super busy and dark and I don't remember if they even show entire ships at once. They most definitely are not iconic enough for me to remember them like an old BoP.CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Get L'Rell to do some brain surgery on him too. Turn this one into Ash Tyler too
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Of those five ships the Death Glider is the only one I even remember seeing on the show.
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I find myself wondering at what point in history the Mirror Universe diverged from the Prime Universe. Like is every good person in the Prime Universe evil in the MU and vice versa? or perhaps there were some key points of digression,and most people are just products of upbringing.
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My impression is that it was always different.
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The Lord Bude posted:I find myself wondering at what point in history the Mirror Universe diverged from the Prime Universe. Like is every good person in the Prime Universe evil in the MU and vice versa? or perhaps there were some key points of digression,and most people are just products of upbringing. As far as DS9 MU goes, there are at least some people, like O'Brien, who are essentially the same person, just in dire circumstances. And Bashir is just kind of a dick.
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The Lord Bude posted:I find myself wondering at what point in history the Mirror Universe diverged from the Prime Universe. Like is every good person in the Prime Universe evil in the MU and vice versa? or perhaps there were some key points of digression,and most people are just products of upbringing. The enterprise mirror episodes show they were always like that. The same people just seem to meet up and have children or whatever.
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The Klingon ships are overdesigned with too little screen-time. Busy+dark also makes them look two dimensional. They're just not memorable and extremely clunky.
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The Lord Bude posted:I find myself wondering at what point in history the Mirror Universe diverged from the Prime Universe. Like is every good person in the Prime Universe evil in the MU and vice versa? or perhaps there were some key points of digression,and most people are just products of upbringing. The impression I got is that human history diverged centuries ago - in Enterprise, mirror Phlox is surprised Shakespeare's still basically the same, noting all the other historical writers he looked up are different in the prime universe. But the divergence seems to be purely human - other races are basically the same. For example, the Halkans in the original mirror universe episode are pacifists in both universes. The reference to Shakespeare was inspired by a scene in one of the old TNG novels, where Picard examines his mirror counterpart's library. Initially, he thinks Earth's history diverged during the Third World War, but after reading further, he realizes humans in this universe have always been slightly crueler all along. Some of Shakespeare's the same - you can't really make Titus Andronicus any more bloody - but The Merchant of Venice ends with Shylock getting his pound of flesh, Portia noting that "the quality of mercy must be earned".
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I remember that from Dark Mirror. That was a good, if cheesy, book.
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The Lord Bude posted:I find myself wondering at what point in history the Mirror Universe diverged from the Prime Universe. Like is every good person in the Prime Universe evil in the MU and vice versa? or perhaps there were some key points of digression,and most people are just products of upbringing. Maybe it was when Bush won the 2000 election instead of Gore.
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I honestly don't remember seeing those Klingon ships in Discovery, but then I'm brain damaged.
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The Lord Bude posted:I find myself wondering at what point in history the Mirror Universe diverged from the Prime Universe. Like is every good person in the Prime Universe evil in the MU and vice versa? or perhaps there were some key points of digression,and most people are just products of upbringing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrrLWt53BUc
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It feels like they've gone "Star Fleet sheeps have to look like this" and been forced to keep to a specific design. But with the Klingons and the Mirror Universe flagship they've been allowed to just do whatever. And it's turned out poo poo.
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Taear posted:It feels like they've gone "Star Fleet sheeps have to look like this" and been forced to keep to a specific design. Yep
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