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There should be a mod where skeletons make a bowling pin sound when knocked down by a large unit charge.
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Jan 26, 2018 15:47
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Gejnor posted:Values: Normal rally heals for 50% of what the upgraded rally does, the upgraded rally has the same healing values as vanilla, just that i can also resurrect units now. The names seemed to imply that this is what its supposed to do and i figured hey that sounds fun! I am sad that it doesn't resurrect now but I am not really sure if an infinite castable skill should have that but it would be fun
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Jan 26, 2018 15:50
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Third World Reggin posted:I am sad that it doesn't resurrect now but I am not really sure if an infinite castable skill should have that Eeeh i mean we do have a healing cap, so it won't work forever.
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Jan 26, 2018 15:56
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toasterwarrior posted:Being an ally torpedoes chances of them submitting to vassalhood, as well as having actual armies on the field. Typically vassalage only happens through either force or sheer desperation by a faction that's on the verge of getting destroyed. well im sure glad the game went out of the way to tell me that Settra also conquers via diplomacy
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Jan 26, 2018 15:56
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VanSandman posted:There should be a mod where skeletons make a bowling pin sound when knocked down by a large unit charge.
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Jan 26, 2018 15:58
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Gejnor posted:Im pretty sure its working, you dont need a specific animation to get some extra stat bonuses after all, its just that Slayers got some extra treatment from CA to make it look even cooler. Deathblow confers stat bonuses, yeah, but Slayers actually play an attack animation when they're killed, and the animation isn't purely cosmetic, it can actually connect with other units and, at the very least, cause knockback. The ability description of Deathblow is quote:Slayers are unbreakable and always fight to the bitter end - sometimes even beyond that! Imminent death only makes them fight harder. When killed in melee, Slayers launch a final attack with their dying breaths. The actual attribute corresponding to Deathblow are the stat bonuses at lower than 20% health. As I understand it, the actual on death attack is something that the Tomb Kings were able to get in TT as well.
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Jan 26, 2018 15:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5DAzsSDB8 Heres a Tretch Craventail spotlight video!
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Jan 26, 2018 16:01
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Gejnor posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5DAzsSDB8 I am honestly surprised that this is an actual Tretch Craventail spotlight video
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Jan 26, 2018 16:15
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I personally found TK's the easiest campaign in WH2 I've played so far (one was Mazda's eternal hellwar and the other was Tyrion's chill vortex tour), as you have no reason to worry about the economy. Granted, I was playing as Arkhan and the Ghouls he gets at a cheap price are waaaaay better than the TK skeletons, but I'd still say their strategic position in the Vortex campaign is the easiest one, since you have no external pressure. Only thing that can really gently caress you up is getting rebels, so make sure your provinces have their PO order line. Don't bother with the money line, it's always better to get more units to recruit to take more lands with, don't be afraid to sack stuff you don't intend to develop. Early game you can do a lot of work with chaff skeletons and chariots (which was my second lord's army), just be aggressive with them.
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Jan 26, 2018 16:16
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I named my War Sphinx Khitti. Good Khitti.
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Jan 26, 2018 16:22
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lines two or three units deep seem like a pretty good counter to chariots. They can't crash through and escape if they aren't gone by the time the first rank recovers from the impact.
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Jan 26, 2018 16:47
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Gejnor posted:Im pretty sure its working, you dont need a specific animation to get some extra stat bonuses after all, its just that Slayers got some extra treatment from CA to make it look even cooler. Sweet! Arglebargle III posted:Does anyone know if there's a good way to tell whether your mods have updated/ are compatible with Tomb Kings? CA's mod manager when you start the game will replace the normal green box with a warning icon if a mod is out of date.
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Jan 26, 2018 16:55
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Really my only disappointment so far with the tomb kings is just the realm of souls summon. But, even that I suppose I understand to an extent. It is nice to get a free flanking unit of ushabti cutting into some archers or the backs of engaged infantry. Just wish they were a little more durable.
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Jan 26, 2018 16:58
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And so another mod sees the light of day: Nehekhara Rises As mentioned this will give Carrion some extra melee attack, it will make Arkhan buff the VC units in his own army and it will buff the realm of souls heal durations a bit and the summoned Ushabti by making them not degrade over time. It will also make both variants of Rally heal, with the upgraded version able to resurrect models!
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Jan 26, 2018 17:02
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thanks. love ya, babe
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Jan 26, 2018 17:02
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Gejnor you rule
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Jan 26, 2018 17:07
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Super, but it seems more restricted in scope compared to say, Green Iz Best
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Jan 26, 2018 17:08
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Vlex posted:Super, but it seems more restricted in scope compared to say, Green Iz Best Because Greenskins needed A LOT more work than Tomb Kings in my opinion. Also, as i said in the mod, i'll probably add more if i feel its needed later on.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:12
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Yeah, honestly a lot of the anti-Tomb King stuff is reminding me about complaints the Wood Elves and Beastmen got on release. Then it turned out they were actually really good the whole time and people crying for buffs made them pretty OP for a while.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:14
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My main issue with them is how huge a jump it is from t1-2 to the high-tier stuff. Like you can easily lose your whole army but then have Settra + sphinx kill everything else the enemy has. I wish at least TG remained relevant end-game, because the legion of skellingtons is why I like TK, not just monster mash. Also I suck with their chariots, like, I'll get them stuck in archers and unable to push through even if I spam click forever.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:31
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chariots are micro hell when you have a bunch of them i just gave up and started a gelt campaign, forgot how much fun empire early game battles are when you've got free company and outriders running around harassing the enemy
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Jan 26, 2018 17:39
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My perspective on Tomb Kings right now is that just about every way of spending money early/mid game that isn't more powerful recruitment buildings is a trap. Rituals especially, their bonuses are just not worth it unless you desperately need the buffs. That money could be going into another permanent unit of Ushabti or Catapults, or growth buildings to rush tier 4/5 in your main region. Same thing with agent actions, their actions are not worth several turns of income early on. Increased agent caps and elite units are somewhat worth it, IMO.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:44
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I just treat it like every single slot needs to be utilized as a tomb king and you only grab swords/spears if you have literally nothing else to fill those slots with. Chariots, though, do some work. I mean, I hate using them, but still.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:44
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my big problem with cavalry micro (and it goes double for chariots) is that the obvious way to order a cycle charge (right click the bad guys, wait ten seconds, right click away from them) causes the formation to reverse, so with a wide group of dudes they get all messed up withdrawing also id like to know if there's a force move order to override attacking
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Jan 26, 2018 17:48
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Eschatos posted:My perspective on Tomb Kings right now is that just about every way of spending money early/mid game that isn't more powerful recruitment buildings is a trap. Rituals especially, their bonuses are just not worth it unless you desperately need the buffs. That money could be going into another permanent unit of Ushabti or Catapults, or growth buildings to rush tier 4/5 in your main region. Same thing with agent actions, their actions are not worth several turns of income early on. Increased agent caps and elite units are somewhat worth it, IMO. The rite that lets you colonize a ruin at level 3, without damaging an army, is pretty badass
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Jan 26, 2018 17:48
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Now that there is skaven in the north, I am going back to try out chaos again. Things that I would like for christmas. If a hero is good at something, let them have the building to make said units. Also change all horde units to work like black arks where population is needed only for the first building.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:50
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The rite that lets you colonize a ruin at level 3, without damaging an army, is pretty badass As Arkhan, I've come across a single ruin in 80 turns, which shared a region with a trading partner so not worth colonizing. None of my neighbors have done any razing that wasn't recolonized within a few turns.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:50
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StashAugustine posted:my big problem with cavalry micro (and it goes double for chariots) is that the obvious way to order a cycle charge (right click the bad guys, wait ten seconds, right click away from them) causes the formation to reverse, so with a wide group of dudes they get all messed up withdrawing Have you tried hitting J. Eschatos posted:As Arkhan, I've come across a single ruin in 80 turns, which shared a region with a trading partner so not worth colonizing. None of my neighbors have done any razing that wasn't recolonized within a few turns. The only way I have found it to work is to befriend beastmen.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:51
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Third World Reggin posted:Have you tried hitting J. i havent tried that specifically with charging but i have with units as a group and you get the same behavior
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Jan 26, 2018 17:53
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The ai loves colonizing ruins even if it makes no sense
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Jan 26, 2018 17:55
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Eschatos posted:As Arkhan, I've come across a single ruin in 80 turns, which shared a region with a trading partner so not worth colonizing. None of my neighbors have done any razing that wasn't recolonized within a few turns. It is situational yeah, but if you end up in position for it it's great. Settra starts with a ruin in his starting province which is pretty amazing. Let's you at least get some early ushabti. Is it worth building walls as TK?
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Jan 26, 2018 17:56
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How does a ruin let you get early Ushabti?
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Jan 26, 2018 17:57
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Arglebargle III posted:How does a ruin let you get early Ushabti? If you use the necrotect you get from the rites you can colonize a ruin with him and it starts at level 3.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:58
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What if skeleton infantry were given/had a tech that let them have perfect vigour? That way, with heals, the longer a battle went on the more valuable they'd get as everyone else was tired and they'd still be able to heal and resurrect. They'd still have poo poo stats so they could get crushed to dust early on in a battle. Too OP? Maybe make it an end of the line lord upgrade?
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Jan 26, 2018 18:01
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Does it not work if you create the ruin yourself?
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Jan 26, 2018 18:05
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I like it, has an inevitable legion of the dead feel to it. Probably OP though
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Jan 26, 2018 18:05
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Mzbundifund posted:Does it not work if you create the ruin yourself? It does
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Jan 26, 2018 18:08
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Would removing the AP damage from dark elf repeater crossbows go a long way to toning them down, as a faction? Empire and dwarven crossbows aren't flagged as AP IIRC and I don't remember repeaters being AP in the TT game
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Jan 26, 2018 18:08
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Mzbundifund posted:Does it not work if you create the ruin yourself? This might actually be pretty good strat. I think the cost of the rite is worth it to get some early T3 stuff, especially if you make sure to raze a capital region so you can build up from there. The cost of summoning the necrotect saves you T2/3 upgrade buildings, the time to accumulate growth, and the opportunity cost of filling your slots with t1/2 buildings.
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Jan 26, 2018 18:10
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Grumio posted:Would removing the AP damage from dark elf repeater crossbows go a long way to toning them down, as a faction? Empire and dwarven crossbows aren't flagged as AP IIRC and I don't remember repeaters being AP in the TT game Yeah. They also probably should get toned down stats on their elite infantry considering Murderous Prowess is a thing.
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