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wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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From the Oath thread, my new and improved Shaltari scheme. Some of the dots may not show up very well in photos.



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dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
Looks great.

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
I need some Shaltari fleet advice. I have 6 Topaz, 4 Amethysts, and 2 Opals. I also have an unbuilt frigate sprue.

What should I build? Are the Shaltari corvettes any good?

Incy
May 30, 2006
for other Out
More topaz. You will never use amethyst or jade in their current state, and more than one opal isn't really needed. Topaz are the backbone of your fleet and I've been using 8-10 in my tournament lists.

Shaltari corvettes are decent for taking out other corvettes. Don't use less than 4 of them in a group.

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!


Painting progress! Super relaxing work so far.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
Then you start on the dots......

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
Q&A with TTCombat posted on the faceybooks:

Good afternoon everyone. I can't keep everyone waiting any longer. Here's the TTCOMBAT Q&A.

When will DZC and DFC be available on the webstore?
We’ve pencilled in the relaunch of the whole range of DZC and DFC on the TTCombat webstore for the end of this month.

What's the plan for US distribution?
We’re good to go pretty much whenever you are! Existing distributors from Hawk are still on board, so we’re just waiting for the orders. You know a store you’d like to see DZC and DFC in? Tell them! Tell them over and over until they have no choice. We’re working with more US distributors, but the process takes a while to sort out a good deal for both us and them. The more demand from retailers, the quicker the process will go!

How will you be addressing the issues with international support?
International (like Australia) is a bit harder than Europe and the USA, as those are the two biggest markets, and so are easiest to cater for! We’re looking to expand into the rest of the world soon too, it’s just a case of being able to find the right distributors and keep up with the demand! If you know of stores that want to stock our products, get them to email sales@kingsleydistribution.co.uk who deal with all of our retail orders.

Will TTC be providing regular updates on DzC and DFC? If so, through what channels?
Regular updates are a must! New miniatures and rules coming thick and fast once all the dust has settled. We’ll be updating our webstore, and providing information through there and here on Facebook! We’re planning on making a brand new website for Dropzone and Dropfleet that will have information, articles, background, rules, event information... lots of stuff!

How will we revitalize and/or grow the player base?
In our opinion there are two important things to:

1. Get the games into more retail stores. The more available the games are, the more people will pick them up. We work with a lot of retailers at the moment, but if you have a retailer you want to stock the games: tell them you want them. Then when they do stock them, buy stuff and offer to run events and demos!

2. Having the games in stores is well and good, but without new releases, no one will keep playing. We all know there’s been a lack of new releases over the last year, and that’s because Dave has been busy doing other stuff. Now he’s back on design, we’ll have more releases coming! Getting new releases out to the stores isn’t a quick process though, especially when taking over a new company. So please be patient with us! We’ll have lots of new stuff releasing frequently, which will really help keep people interested.

When will we receive information about the Talon program?
We’re looking to relaunch that this year. It’s very important to the game, and we’d like to make sure we’re doing it right. We’d been working on a similar scheme for RUMBLESLAM for a little while, and it seems sensible to combine everything into one place with a similar operating procedure. That doesn’t mean you’ll have to promote RUMBLESLAM or Carnevale if you just want to do DZC and/or DFC, but if you like more than one game you’ll be able to run events for all of our games and be supported through one channel (and use your points on all our ranges!).

Will TTC be at Gencon (or other shows) with DZC/DFC?
Yep, we’ll be at Gen Con and others in the States through Don, and will be flying the flag at UK Games Expo, Salute, and Crisis to name a few!

Will TTC be following up on Hawk's aborted plans to encourage organized play/tournaments?
We’d love to! We’ve got a lot to get sorted before jumping into organised play events and tournaments, but it’s something we’re currently doing for RUMBLESLAM, and something we’re writing the Carnevale rules to incorporate from the start. That idea will definitely carry over to DZC and DFC! Organised play is one of those things that’s hugely important to the hobby, and there’s nothing quite like getting a room full of excited gamers together! In all honesty though, running tournaments isn’t our priority right now – getting the miniatures made and out to stores is. All of that stuff will be a lot easier to keep running once the initial start up is done, and we’ll be able to shift our attention to more fun things like tournaments.
Where are the Ebooks and rumoured app for the games?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is DZC V2 still on target for an April release?
Potentially, but we think we’d actually like to push it back a bit. We’re talking about the best way to get the new rules out, and aren’t quite decided yet. V2 rules are almost entirely written and tested, but there was never a plan in place to add anything else to the V2 release. We started our discussions off talking about whether Reconquest would be needed, and in the state we saw the new rules, you’d still need those books to play the complete factions. We’re not so keen on having to have multiple books to play a game, and it seems a little weird to back the new rules backwards compatible with older units, when this is an opportunity to consolidate everything that’s happened with the game up to this point, and also make a few tweaks while we’re at it. Of course, this version of V2 requires a lot more work, but would potentially see new miniatures, new story, new art, photos, and painted minis instead of just a new rule set.
With that in mind, we’re discussing a potential open beta for the new rules, as well as free downloads for all units. None of that is definite right now, but we’re talking about the best way to revitalise the game, and we’re not sure a quick release new rulebook is necessarily the answer.
Are the updated rules going to feel more streamlined than they currently are?
We think so!

Is there any way we can get rid of the D6 in DZC V2 and maybe introduce the D10?
We’re actually going to change it to a D2. Coinflip Commander is here!

When will we see DZC Reconquest Phase 2 units? Can we have a preview?
We’re hoping they’ll be available with the webstore launch. As for a preview, yeah why not?
Will there be a huge selection of 10mm scenery available for more varied game boards?
Yes. Huge selections of affordable scenery is our jam. In fact, Scott wanted to show a quick render of some of the MDF kits he’s been working on.
Will famous commanders be balanced for tournament and regular play?
This is a conversation we’ve been having quite a lot recently, and there are differing opinions on it. Personally I think that named characters should be able to be used no matter where you are, but others feel that they should deliberately be very good and not necessarily balanced for tournaments. We’d love to hear the community’s thoughts!

Where is the KS fulfillment?
Around 75% at time of writing.

When will we get our store credit for the undelivered Kickstarter stuff (maps, etc.)?
I’m afraid I can’t give an exact date for that. We’ll be sending them out to backers in waves – there’d be nothing worse than getting thousands of orders all in one week and putting a big delay on fulfilling them! We’re looking at Q1 this year for the first wave.
Will there be a look at internal faction balance in DFC?
Definitely at some point!

Will show exclusive models like the Athens ever be available as Hawk has done in the past?
Yes.

When will we be seeing the "fifth race"?
TODAY! No, not really. I don’t have any specific answers for this one. Is “soon” a good enough answer? New races helps more people get into the game, as the more varied styles you have, the more likely you are to find something you really connect with. So yeah, it’s definitely on the horizon.

Any plans for a Voidgate only pack?
I don’t know! It’s kind of annoying that you need Cruisers to get Voidgates. I’ll ask around to see if there’s a chance to do them in resin. No promises!
What role will new ships (monitors, destroyers, dreadnoughts) play in the mechanics of DFC?
From Dave:
Monitors – Frigate sized ships but very heavily armoured (2+/3+), well armed but VERY slow. Fluff wise, they have no FTL capability and are really just mildly mobile orbital gun platforms.

Destroyers - basically they sit between Frigates and Cruisers in size, capability and cost. Generally (but not always), they require Weapons Free to get the most out of them (unlike Light Cruisers and Frigates) but pack very respectable firepower in return. Dreadnoughts - these are the absolute kings of the battlefield. Monstrous in size, massively armed and extremely hard to kill. A serious investment in points (at tournament level especially). Total bullet magnets with massive signatures - a big commitment but a scary prospect to face.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
25% of the kickstarter still being unfulfilled is more than I thought at this stage tbh.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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Ugleb posted:

25% of the kickstarter still being unfulfilled is more than I thought at this stage tbh.

That's actually really surprising. Before the buyout was announced it seemed like it was more like 5-10% according to what Hawk was saying. And they worked on it all December so it was likely higher than that at handover time.

Was hoping they'd have the new Talon scheme this month, but if distribution to the US exists again I can work with that.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
Either they are calculating by a different metric or Hawk didn't realise how much they still had outstanding. Both seem plausible.

Dropzone v2 is starting to sound like an Autumn release to me. But probably a better package for it.

darnon
Nov 8, 2009
Could be a matter of counting items unfulfilled versus backers whose pledges are not completely fulfilled.

EverettLO
Jul 2, 2007
I'm a lurker no more


I suspect it was accounts with any part unfulfilled. I just got a small box the other week with the Scourge space station, so bits and pieces are still going out.

Pash
Sep 10, 2009

The First of the Adorable Dead

wdarkk posted:

That's actually really surprising. Before the buyout was announced it seemed like it was more like 5-10% according to what Hawk was saying. And they worked on it all December so it was likely higher than that at handover time.

Was hoping they'd have the new Talon scheme this month, but if distribution to the US exists again I can work with that.

I would also guess its because someone at hawk seemed to communicate to others that they had shipped wave 2, when in actuality it seems like 90% of it had not shipped. I know when i emailed several months after wave 2 shipping was supposed to start the customer service person was really surprised as he had been told everything had been shipped except art prints...

Sojenus
Dec 28, 2008

I'm glad they're leaning towards compiling everything into version 2 rather than having to get a mix of 1.0 and 2.0 books.

Also the robot crab dinosaur thing is neat.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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Sojenus posted:

I'm glad they're leaning towards compiling everything into version 2 rather than having to get a mix of 1.0 and 2.0 books.

Also the robot crab dinosaur thing is neat.

That's definitely a good thing. A previous q&a hinted that they might have a web rulebook or other online thing, which was something that Hawk considered as a paid app but never got done.

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008

Ugleb posted:

Either they are calculating by a different metric or Hawk didn't realise how much they still had outstanding. Both seem plausible.

Dropzone v2 is starting to sound like an Autumn release to me. But probably a better package for it.

Given that I just received a second set of ground tokens (only pledged for one- first set arrived last august-ish) I suspect hawk weren't entirely sure what was going on with shipping!

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
The mess Hawk must have been in boggles the mind.

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
Yeah. The success of the kickstarter killed his company.

dexefiend fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jan 13, 2018

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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dexefiend posted:

Yeah. The success of the kickstarter killed his company.

It wasn't the first.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING

Lobster God posted:

Given that I just received a second set of ground tokens (only pledged for one- first set arrived last august-ish) I suspect hawk weren't entirely sure what was going on with shipping!

If they are shipping duplicate items that would probably explain the low completion rate. It may not help that they apparently let the entire hawk shipping team go before they were done. Unless it does, in which case, drat.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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Webstore up this Friday, Kickstarter exclusives and show exclusives will be on sale until 4th February for the grand re-opening.

Incy
May 30, 2006
for other Out
Well that web/show exclusive is a thing. Battlecruiser firepower, above battlecruiser resilience and a 125pt price tag. I really hope that these aren't tournament legal, as they will distort the game that much.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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Incy posted:

Well that web/show exclusive is a thing. Battlecruiser firepower, above battlecruiser resilience and a 125pt price tag. I really hope that these aren't tournament legal, as they will distort the game that much.

I'm not liking the idea of a hard-to-get exclusive with unique stats.

Incy
May 30, 2006
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wdarkk posted:

I'm not liking the idea of a hard-to-get exclusive with unique stats.

No, it's really worrying. I hope they are intended to be scenario only pieces, or similar.

Sojenus
Dec 28, 2008

I think it looks great and I'll probably get one to ruin with paint regardless of what happens with those rules. I see they wrote in a way to mirror the allied/feral Resistance thing for Dropfleet so I assume it'll be a full faction in the future as opposed to just add-ons for UCM/PHR.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...
I'm not sure how much i'm supposed to pass on right now but if you read the fluff that comes with the rules you might envsion that this ship does not stay exclusive forever *cough cough*

wdarkk
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Sojenus posted:

I think it looks great and I'll probably get one to ruin with paint regardless of what happens with those rules. I see they wrote in a way to mirror the allied/feral Resistance thing for Dropfleet so I assume it'll be a full faction in the future as opposed to just add-ons for UCM/PHR.

There were a LOT of people who wanted pre-war remnant ships. I assume someone at TT said "well do that, then."

alchahest
Dec 28, 2004
Universal Solvent
It could use some tuning but I like the sculpt so much I'ma buy two just to make sure for if/when it's tuned up I can feel good fielding a pair of them. yikes that's a nice looking ship.

FrostyPox
Feb 8, 2012

I'm glad they're available again. I guess I'll have to harass my FLGSs to harass their distributor(s) since when I message TTCombat a while back they said they were ready to to go, they just needed NA distributors to actually put in orders.

TacoNight
Feb 18, 2011

Stop, hey, what's that sound?
They dropped army starters from 35 to 25 pounds in dzc. Didn’t notice drops for the resin kits. Wonder if US msrp will see any drops between that and lower exchange rate.

FrostyPox
Feb 8, 2012

Oh, yikes, I definitely hope the US distributors pick things up... Shipping on the DZC 2-player set is about $40 :yikes: Smaller stuff is about $7, which isn't too bad, all though I think it'll be really tough to get people interested if the only way they can get it is to pay MSRP and then also shipping from the UK

darnon
Nov 8, 2009
Noble Knight generally stocks TT Combat's stuff here in the US so at the very least I would expect to see things available there.

FrostyPox
Feb 8, 2012

darnon posted:

Noble Knight generally stocks TT Combat's stuff here in the US so at the very least I would expect to see things available there.

Good to know, thanks!

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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I like how the UCM Battleship and Battlecruiser instantly sold out the day the store went up.

alchahest
Dec 28, 2004
Universal Solvent
I don't :(

Still don't have a battleship. Though I do have both BCs

Pash
Sep 10, 2009

The First of the Adorable Dead
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the Remnant ship gets nerfed by the time its rules are no longer experimental... that gun is super good.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
I was hoping for some more notable price drops as TT had put that out there. Is it me or has the Dropfleet stuff gone up in price? Obviously retail usually knocks a bit off anyway.

The advanced sectors pack was also sold out straight away. I'm kinda glad that demand still seems to be there at least.

Also note the massive clearance discounts on DzC rulebooks. The limited edition hardback is £4.

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

Ugleb posted:

The advanced sectors pack was also sold out straight away. I'm kinda glad that demand still seems to be there at least.

Yeah, me too. I was worried this game was going to quietly die, a victim of its own success. But hey it's selling, and selling well.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
I'm hoping that TT recognise the value of spreading releases out and don't just dump big waves like Hawk did. I want to see them take the next month or two to build up stock levels and get things back out into stores before rolling out new Dropfleet stuff.

They have the new DzC famous commanders up on preorder along with the first MDF buildings and exclusive sculpts. Let that be enough for the next month or two then bring out the first new shinies for Dropfleet. Then wait a month or two and bring out the next class etc.

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Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
I just noticed that TTCombat have their 4x4 modular mdf board up on the site. It's £94.95 and doesn't seem to have any of the elevation changing tiles in that they were showing off. So it's about twice the price of a decent mat and still flat I guess?

https://ttcombat.com/collections/sci-fi-x/products/dropzone-4-x-4-city-board

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