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fluffyDeathbringer posted:The other ones at least have a coherent message (in the sense that while it's distorted far-right bile, it's recognizable distorted far-right bile), but this is honestly incomprehensible, aside from the gay caricature. Bullheadedly trying to do impossible poo poo is good? Being able to be emotionally affected by things is bad? This from a guy who's so emotionally affected by TEH GAYZ that he draws himself petulantly screaming at them? Surviving in harsh conditions by hard work and never giving up is a central piece of traditional Finnish patriotic imagery. Meanwhile showing emotions (other than rage, I guess) has been considered unmanly. But yeah, it's still stupid as hell.
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:Bullheadedly trying to do impossible poo poo is good? Being able to be emotionally affected by things is bad? Welcome to Finland.
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Kennel posted:Surviving in harsh conditions by hard work and never giving up is a central piece of traditional Finnish patriotic imagery. Meanwhile showing emotions (other than rage, I guess) has been considered unmanly. Yeah, guess that angle should've occurred to me, being Finnish myself and having grown up knowing about the historical appreciation of sisu and all; a better incredulous rhetorical question might've been "Bullheadedly doing impossible and pointless poo poo is good?" Even in light of that cultural image, though, this is stupid; he's not even doing anything necessary, for gently caress's sake, just trying to topple a rock for no reason. For people who ostensibly care about Finland and want to preserve tradition, The Finns suck at actually representing the past they claim to love. Par the course for skinheads, I guess.
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So question. Where do these conservative cartoonists live where all gay men are in assless chaps 24/7, and why am I not there?
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Electric Phantasm posted:Did the Independence Day aliens seriously not get named? Roland Emmerich. You know the answer. Zulily Zoetrope posted:Is it just me, or is the hair of BenG's Trump consistently getting thicker and more full? From the looks of it, the hairbeast is draining Trump's fat.  This one is actually legitimately funny. It's well drawn, well composed, and has a pretty good joke. What happened to Mac? DariusLikewise posted:Jesus was a socialist Funny story, I got rage unfriended once as the result of a debate that ensued when I made this comment as a status. PowerBeard posted:Wait, how did Catholics get roped in on this? That Martin Luther fucker. My, this one has certainly aged well. I've been in a Beetle of this vintage, and there's no WAY they have that much space.
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Does the far right just import all its dogwhistles from the US now?
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MikeyTsi posted:This one is actually legitimately funny. It's well drawn, well composed, and has a pretty good joke. Mac is rather talented. His problem is that most of his cartoons are based on jokes that are only good if you share his bigotry and his misogyny. Sometimes, though, though he'll make a cartoon that does not appeal to either of these traits of his.
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Zemyla posted:Does the far right just import all its dogwhistles from the US now? The Fins are the worlds most racist people and probably hold the silver and bronze medal too. Like first generation Finish immigrants in other countries will be racist towards non-white immigrants quicker than the native population. Not in an attempt to fit in with the locals or anything because the fins will be racist towards them too. Even if the locals are white.
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Zemyla posted:Does the far right just import all its dogwhistles from the US now? I mean, hell, far right groups in Europe have been using the fuckin Confederate Flag as a symbol for years.
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Zemyla posted:Does the far right just import all its dogwhistles from the US now? Nah, both of these whistles have probably been imported from either Sweden or UK/France.
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Pakled posted:I mean, hell, far right groups in Europe have been using the fuckin Confederate Flag as a symbol for years. This is mostly because they can be prosecuted for flying swastika flags.
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CoolCab posted:That's a coherent visual metaphor and it's incisive- good stuff. It is possibly one of the best cartoons I have ever seen. It is clever, doesn't use a bunch of text to bring it's point across ( the word in the upper corner isn't even needed) and isn't horribly drawn either, utilizing perspective and shadows well.
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Cat Mattress posted:Mac is rather talented. His problem is that most of his cartoons are based on jokes that are only good if you share his bigotry and his misogyny. Sometimes, though, though he'll make a cartoon that does not appeal to either of these traits of his. He has these odd moments where he has a non-toxic viewpoint, like the one about the college presidents getting paid waaaay too much.
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:The other ones at least have a coherent message (in the sense that while it's distorted far-right bile, it's recognizable distorted far-right bile), but this is honestly incomprehensible, aside from the gay caricature. Bullheadedly trying to do impossible poo poo is good? Being able to be emotionally affected by things is bad? This from a guy who's so emotionally affected by TEH GAYZ that he draws himself petulantly screaming at them? It's "thus of olde, thus now" but in a stupid way.
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Does this count as a politoon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltzy5vRmN8Q
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Wow, not a single pedant complained about improper Cyrillic. I’m impressed, thread, you’re starting to mature. Cat Mattress posted:So apparently if you develop telekinesis and levitation, your arms and legs atrophy into vestigial sticks. It's a weird world Kalle developed, but an internally coherent one, I suppose. Sure, no sense spending energy to maintain body parts you don’t need. It’s like how cavefish are blind.
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I'm confused about the top right one; is keeping the blood alcohol limit for a DUI high some liberal position I am unaware of?
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Samurai Sanders posted:I'm confused about the top right one; is keeping the blood alcohol limit for a DUI high some liberal position I am unaware of? Utah has extremely strict liquor laws because of the influence of the Mormon Church.
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:Yeah, guess that angle should've occurred to me, being Finnish myself and having grown up knowing about the historical appreciation of sisu and all; a better incredulous rhetorical question might've been "Bullheadedly doing impossible and pointless poo poo is good?" Even in light of that cultural image, though, this is stupid; he's not even doing anything necessary, for gently caress's sake, just trying to topple a rock for no reason. For people who ostensibly care about Finland and want to preserve tradition, The Finns suck at actually representing the past they claim to love. Par the course for skinheads, I guess. This conversation is convincing me that My Summer Car is the most Finnish video game ever made.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Utah has extremely strict liquor laws because of the influence of the Mormon Church.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I'm confused about the top right one; is keeping the blood alcohol limit for a DUI high some liberal position I am unaware of? Yeah, Utah fairly recently lowered their DUI threshold to .05%, which research indicates is greater than what's safe anyway. Samurai Sanders posted:Well of course but, is there anyone seriously arguing that the law is too hard on people who drink and drive? Lol yes. Lots of em.
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fool_of_sound posted:Lol yes. Lots of em. Some of them are even sober.
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fool_of_sound posted:Lol yes. Lots of em.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Huh, I had no idea. Is it about unfair punishment of the condition of being an alcoholic? Or part of an argument against imprisonment in general? Or literally "I want to drive home after drinking without the police all up in my business"? Mostly that last one.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Huh, I had no idea. Is it about unfair punishment of the condition of being an alcoholic? Or part of an argument against imprisonment in general? Or literally "I want to drive home after drinking without the police all up in my business"? "I don't FEEL drunk, so why am I under arrest, officer?"
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Samurai Sanders posted:Huh, I had no idea. Is it about unfair punishment of the condition of being an alcoholic? Or part of an argument against imprisonment in general? Or literally "I want to drive home after drinking without the police all up in my business"? The only coherent argument I could find is as follows: Drunk driving laws criminalize a specific BAC. However, it is practically impossible for someone to know what their current BAC is. Rough calculations and guesses work reasonably well, but still leave a fuzzy area. As such, under the current law it is impossible to know if you are breaking the law or not while driving, if you have been drinking at all. Furthermore, the law is targeting a specific state of being, the contents of your blood rather than the consequences of your actions. Therefore, drunk driving laws should be abolished, in favor of A)harsh punishments for actually causing an accident and B)penalties for reckless/impaired driving based on external factors rather than a binary check of blood alchocol.
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Kaza42 posted:The only coherent argument I could find is as follows:
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Samurai Sanders posted:I guess that would just make the law line up with the real situation, that the police stopped you because you were driving erratically (or because you were black and in a nice car or whatever but I guess that's beyond the scope of this). Still, I find it hard to believe that anyone would come up with this other than that they want to drink and drive.
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Tibalt posted:BAC is arbitrary. Wrong
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Utah has a long tradition of quasi prohibition and saying theres no diff between .08 and .05 (when commercial is .04) is wrong
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Yea it seems Utah is known for having a lot of dry counties, even though it's technically behind other states like Tennessee. This is kinda neat to learn about. I don't drink at all so I wonder what kind of affect dry counties have. My only experience was my dad complaining on a trip "We need to stop here because it's the only not-dry place we'll pass through before we get to our destination".
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Was it Utah or Texas where a sheriff just arrested people for being above the limit at a bar, arguing that they "would've drove home", and then he put out a statement saying "A bar isn't a place to get drunk".
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Samurai Sanders posted:Still, I find it hard to believe that anyone would come up with this other than that they want to drink and drive. This might shock you but many adults consume alcoholic beverages and still retain the ability to drive
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Despera posted:This might shock you but many adults consume alcoholic beverages and still retain the ability to drive Bruce?
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Despera posted:This might shock you but many adults consume alcoholic beverages and still retain the ability to drive Please don't go down this road. (heh)
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I don't know about other states, but in mine you don't have to do the roadside breathalyzer test. That means they have to find probable cause to believe you are drunk during the physical test (walk the line, touch your nose, etc.) to arrest you and compel you to take the breathalyzer at the station. So, to get far enough where BAC comes into play, you have to have demonstrated that you physically should not be driving. Granted, often cops can just say what they want about how you did on those tests but still. With dash cams and body cams that would become harder for them to do though.
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