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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:Underappreciated i accidentally sorted my inventory the other day and it too 10 mins to put it back the way it was 
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Thundarr posted:Poetics feed my gardening habits so I'll take what I can get. Apparently the preliminary math is that it's a slight dps gain in a dummy scenario but gains a lot less from party buffs than current WAR.
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Jan 26, 2018 20:01
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Jan 26, 2018 20:03
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SettingSun posted:200 Poetics, 100 Creation, 50 Mendacity would do it. 200/200/100, and a couple cracked clusters. Alliance Raid rewards clusters for job in need all the time, can be effectively 200 poetics since the instance is worth 100 before roulette and newbie bonus, 100 creation if it rolls Rabanastre starting Tuesday, and 50 of the current tomestone daily. Considering how awful praetorium is, making it better on the current tomestone sounds good. Skaw fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Jan 26, 2018 20:04
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Captain Oblivious posted:I don't think he's saying it should be removed, but rather that it should be buffed when it's so unambiguously worthless. Yeah. I get that its technically a DPS gain to use on 2+ targets as it is offglobal, but it gobbles up so much MP. I'd rather just use more Abyssal Drains on giant pulls for the healing, and its a complete waste on bosses. Move looks cool, its just real bad.
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Jan 26, 2018 20:06
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Saint Freak posted:Can't believe the 4 people who were running the MSQ roulette are going to have to stop now. It gives good XP. Only reason Ive been running it lately.
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Jan 26, 2018 20:11
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So any early math saying if the blm changes accomplishes anything?
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Jan 26, 2018 20:12
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oof. these warrior changes are brutal. i think s-e has somehow managed to create a patch that pisses off all three tank jobs, though balance is probably in a better place than it used to be.
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Jan 26, 2018 20:23
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I'm excited for the chocobo saddle bags the most this patch But also I'm a monk player and I'm super happy with the those changes, WAR less so but eh still the most fun tank class.
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Jan 26, 2018 20:36
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Rosalind posted:While we're talking about inventory changes, is there a reason why the Currencies tab doesn't include all the random trial/raid/beast tribe-specific currencies you receive?
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Jan 26, 2018 20:41
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Martman posted:It does include the beast tribe currencies. Otherwise, yeah I agree, imo the more things we can shove in there the better. Huh why do I have all these like "titan something-or-other shards" that say they're for the kobolds in my inventory then?
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Jan 26, 2018 20:45
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Rosalind posted:Huh why do I have all these like "titan something-or-other shards" that say they're for the kobolds in my inventory then? Those aren't currency, they're turn-in items for certain specific FATE beast tribe quests.
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Jan 26, 2018 20:48
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Those aren't currency, they're turn-in items for certain specific FATE beast tribe quests. Ahahaha I'm an idiot
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Jan 26, 2018 20:52
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On the bright side, the PLD nerf basically isn't.
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Jan 26, 2018 20:52
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I don't really like the BLM changes - at the very, very least they could have maintained symmetry by also bringing Blizzard 4 up to 280. Still, 8 second transpose will be a godsend and the longer-cooking Thundercloud is nice.
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Jan 26, 2018 21:02
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I'm ok with the WAR changes because I'm easily amused by lots of !! in my damage numbers 
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As someone who never enjoyed paying close attention to CD windows or resource gauges.......I like the war changes. Sorry. I’m sorry. They did this for people like me That said I still more or less agree with you guys; people like me already had drk to button mash with, but now we have another brain dead tank and people who want something that rewards higher skill have nothing. So morally, I’m on your side, but I am still going to play warrior now and enjoy it
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Jan 26, 2018 21:07
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So who exactly is the target audience for the new level 70 roulette?
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Rainuwastaken posted:So who exactly is the target audience for the new level 70 roulette? Level 70 characters who like collecting tomestones. Edit: It's literally the same scheme from before SB. EXDR is the roulette for the newest released dungeons. 70DR will be the max level, but not current, dungeons just like 60DR was. SettingSun fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Jan 26, 2018 21:23
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Reiterpallasch posted:oof. these warrior changes are brutal. i think s-e has somehow managed to create a patch that pisses off all three tank jobs, though balance is probably in a better place than it used to be.
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Jan 26, 2018 21:28
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Dukka posted:Any PLD main who is whining has some real issues given it is, at worse, something like a ~2% damage decrease with no fundamental rotation or utility changes. My only issue is that I wish they'd have hit something else other than Holy Spirit. Req-HS spam is when I get to do my big numbers, don't make it less exciting!
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Jan 26, 2018 21:30
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Ainsley McTree posted:As someone who never enjoyed paying close attention to CD windows or resource gauges.......I like the war changes. Sorry. I’m sorry. They did this for people like me Same. It's me. I'm the brain dead player they're doing this for.
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Dukka posted:Any PLD main
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>Players will no longer be inflicted with the Heavy status effect when taking damage from behind while mounted. Best patch.
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Wasn’t there a point, around the HW launch I think, where Yoship said he wanted to make traveling even more dangerous? I’m glad they never did that
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That MSQ roulette change is the laziest poo poo
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Remilia posted:It's me. I'm the brain dead player they're doing this for. 
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slev posted:That MSQ roulette change is the laziest poo poo I suspect that changing those two into what they should always have been (a huge solo instance) would probably mean we get one less new dungeon or trial or more that patch. This change is kind of lazy but it does directly address one of the oldest gripes about the game without eating up a lot of dev time.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Wasn’t there a point, around the HW launch I think, where Yoship said he wanted to make traveling even more dangerous? I’m glad they never did that If the previews are anything to go by, Eureka will fulfill that wish for him. The most recent thing I read about it is that monsters in the field don't lose aggro.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:So any early math saying if the blm changes accomplishes anything? Purely from the Fire IV changes, I'd say it works out to maybe a 3.5% DPS buff. Looking at one of my latest NED kills, Fire 4 is a bit under half my damage, and it's a bit over a 7% potency buff. The Thundercloud/Firestarter changes are really nice. I don't think they'll increase peak DPS by much but they should make it easier to do good numbers. I'm just not sure if it's enough. vOv fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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some people like to look good in the class they play and be op 
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I do like those monk changes. I always thought it was a stupid long time for Perfect Balance considering samurai get the exact same kind of ability which gave them incredible burst potential.
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As a Monk player who never does MSQ roulette and has I am the golden child of this patch.
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:As a Monk player who never does MSQ roulette and has same, but adding WAR & WHM. Can't believe the thing I'm looking forward to most is managing my inventory immediately post-patch
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Ainsley McTree posted:Wasn’t there a point, around the HW launch I think, where Yoship said he wanted to make traveling even more dangerous? I’m glad they never did that This what eureka is for. To sequester all of the "immersion"
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Thundarr posted:I suspect that changing those two into what they should always have been (a huge solo instance) would probably mean we get one less new dungeon or trial or more that patch. This change is kind of lazy but it does directly address one of the oldest gripes about the game without eating up a lot of dev time. The issue is that, at least on the Western servers, it's going to replace one problem with another. Instead of new players seeing a bunch of contextless cutscenes back-to-back as everyone finishes the dungeon well ahead of them, they'll merely be unable to actually get into the loving dungeon at all. MSQ roulette was already one of the least-run roulettes, and I can't even begin to imagine how long the queues are going to be after the change, especially for people leveling up a DPS character.
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Holyshoot posted:some people like to look good in the class they play and be op Hello my name is EponymousMrYar and I'm glad to be here at this meeting of PLDaholics Anonymous. I have a problem. I like saying 'gently caress your mechanics' to bosses with my two super CD's and I suck at using Inner Beast for mitigation despite being able to use Sheltron and SAM's Third Eye to do the same thing with little issue. Also: PLD's Rule, WAR's drool. SKULL.GIF posted:My only issue is that I wish they'd have hit something else other than Holy Spirit. Req-HS spam is when I get to do my big numbers, don't make it less exciting! It is literally (20/400 = 1/20 =) 5% (Edit:  DECIMALS ) less exciting than before. That's still pretty darn exciting.Another underappreciated thing for the patch: It seems the Gold Saucer is going to absolutely poo poo MGP now with all of the changes to GATE's and the new fashion thing awarding 10k base per week. EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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EponymousMrYar posted:(20/400 = 1/20 =) 0.05% 
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Goodbye mindless fel cleave spam  Hello new best pal perfect balance 
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Mazed posted:Goodbye mindless fel cleave spam Unless I’m missing something, fel cleave spam is even more mindless now?
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