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Xaerael posted:Lox, you literally got your companies wrong :p CASE DISMISSED I have now filed an Amended Post with the court, may it please your honour. Malachite_Dragon posted:So, they're basically doubling down on the "WRONG COMPANY THEREFORE DISMISS" defense, yeah? They do have a section devoted to this (it doesn't say anything new), but Xaerael is just smugly pointing out I used the wrong company name in my zeal to type the post EDIT: Taxxe duly assessed by a jury of our peers: Loxbourne fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Jan 27, 2018 |
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Loxbourne posted:For those who don't want to read it, it can be summarised as follows: Thanks lawgoon. I did try and wade through it but I have difficulties with lawyer-speak. I'm taking it this is good for Star Citizen o9
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 13:48 |
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Probably the F8C is the civilian version of the F8A. The F8C is the "First One is Free" equivalent of the 'Verse. You'll still have to lay down 10k to get the F8A and become the Alpha Sperg.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 13:50 |
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That response is all Ortwin. It's gotta be. He's retained FKKS as the attorneys of record but he's writing the response documents. It's absurdly childish. Like an angry seven-year-old or a petulant teenager, with a constant unending YOU'RE WRONG AND SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED BY HOW WRONG YOU ARE attitude. I'm really hoping the judge grants a Motion to Compel the Defence to Grow The gently caress Up. Skadden's tone of weary politeness is their best argument at this point.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 13:54 |
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Loxbourne posted:The backers will eat it up. ofc https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7tccxu/cig_responds_to_cryteks_response_to_the_mtd/
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 13:54 |
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tuo posted:Lol, they actually only fixed it at one place...the other forms - which don't handle passwords though, just reset request and two-factor authentication, still have the flaw: Suddenly everybody knows everything about web development
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:03 |
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I'm getting the distinct impression that CIG will settle over Ortwin's (un)dead body.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:20 |
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CrazyTolradi posted:I'm getting the distinct impression that CIG will settle over Ortwin's (un)dead body. That will depend on the terms of the settlement, of course. CIG agrees to pay all the monies; Crytek agrees that Ortwin is a good lawyer and also here's a ticket to and a house lease in a non-extradition country.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:23 |
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https://twitter.com/richard_kyanka/status/957063995197927424
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:23 |
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This is kinda why I'm hoping Crytek is feeling personal animosity, rather than this just being them collecting on what they're due and it being just business. If it is the latter, then yea - settlement for hefty monies is deffo still in the cards. But if it's the former, Ortwin will get rekt so hard if discovery of any kind happens, let alone if this actually goes to trial.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:49 |
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Dark Off posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHY-ODm51QU. Pro-Click. Space Madness within.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:51 |
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quote:See Frittelli, Inc. v. 350 N. Canon Drive, LP, 202 Cal. App. 4th 35, 43 (2011) (citing Cal. Civ. Code § 1668). That is precisely what the parties agreed to here. Ah the doughnut defense. A risky move, lets see how it plays out.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:54 |
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I lold when they started the doughnut story.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 14:57 |
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Hopefully CIG can find an expert witness in regards to donuts.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:01 |
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Gravity_Storm posted:I lold when they started the doughnut story. quote:Crytek argues that “[e]ven if the Court determines that Defendants were permitted to switch engines and did in fact do so, Defendants’ argument fails to account for the full year of infringing conduct between Defendants’ announcement of the separate, standalone Squadron 42 on December 16, 2015, and Defendants’ eventual engine switch on December 23, 2016.” Its a combination of "Wrong company!", "We aren't even making a game!" and "Doughnut law is the same as licensing!"
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:06 |
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SomethingJones posted:Reverse The Verse Jan 26 2018 If you gently caress all the basics up in DX, Vulkan is not going to help you.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:12 |
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Baxta posted:Ah the doughnut defense. A risky move, lets see how it plays out. Like doughnuts, CryTek GMBH's lawsuit is full of holes
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:12 |
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I need a refund.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:16 |
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Filthy leaver.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:19 |
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Malachite_Dragon posted:So, they're basically doubling down on the "WRONG COMPANY THEREFORE DISMISS" defense, yeah? It's a real drat shame Skadden figured that out and took precautions against it. It's almost as if they expected some sort of smoke and mirrors from CIG.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:30 |
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Star Citizen: IMMATERIAL, IMPERTINENT, AND SCANDALOUS
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:36 |
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Harsh but fair
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:39 |
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Baxta posted:Ah the doughnut defense. A risky move, lets see how it plays out. I may not be a lawyer, but, if this reply were taken as true, wouldn't that mean the contract is completely pointless as they are arguing the contract specifically says no-one can sue anyone if the contract isn't followed? (I can easily have gotten confused. Sorry)
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:40 |
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Says the imaginary tank. Pixelate fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jan 27, 2018 |
# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:41 |
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drat it. A TOS is a TOS though, there's no squirming out I guess.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:41 |
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Baxta posted:Doughnut law
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:41 |
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Calling it now Citizens will see this as another crushing blow because they assume that a judge wants to see a bunch of brutal takedowns while reading a legal document like they do.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:45 |
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tuo posted:It punches above its width Come on this was an easy one!
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:47 |
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thatguy posted:Calling it now Citizens will see this as another crushing blow because they assume that a judge wants to see a bunch of brutal takedowns while reading a legal document like they do. Of course they will. "Ah man that was so fucjing savage, look at CIG replying to a law thing they are so cool and awesome" they'll say where their brains can't quite comprehend the response. At this stage you could literally propr up the corpse of Star Citizen, hide in a non-extradition country for the rest of your life, and they would still keep the faith as long as the strings on the puppet don't cut loose.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 15:59 |
The absolute funniest thing about this is watching Citizens react to every argument CIG makes like it's the word of God.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:03 |
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Mr Roberts, Mr Roberts! Where are you going with all that money? Oh... uhhh, hey, er... I'm taking this money to ehhhhhhh the bank to uh make sure it gets DEPOSITED. Oh, that makes total sense. Wow, you must have like millions of dollars in there huh? Haha, errrr... yeah. New sale last week uhhh really helped us out hehe. It was my pleasure, sir! *salutes* Welp, gotta go to a meeting in Samoa. *door slams shut* *walking noises* *bmw engine starts* *tire screeching* *plane noise*
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:04 |
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Sillybones posted:Pro-Click. Space Madness within. I really like the quantum locked doors that only open if you're not looking at them.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:04 |
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Beet Wagon posted:The absolute funniest thing about this is watching Citizens react to every argument CIG makes like it's the word of God. WELL OF COURSE, DUMMY! IF CIG WAS WRONG THEY WOULD ADMIT IT!
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:05 |
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Loxbourne posted:For those who don't want to read it, it can be summarised as follows: Remember when I took one look at the first CIG response and immediately said that Ortwin probably wrote it, then gave it to FKKS to review and file? This latest infantile response is even more damning proof of that. This is all Ortwin. Every single email or legal exchange we have had with him, has this same hostile/confrontation tone. He's playing to the toxic backer, and investor base, not the courts. ----------------
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:09 |
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Fire and fury indeed.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:13 |
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I figured the backers would like fire and furries.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:15 |
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Baxta posted:I could quote this whole thing hahaha. It's loving amazing in its incompetence. For one thing, they are citing a press release which THEY released, as being grounds in support of an already tenuous argument. All that does is open the door for Skadden to go "OK, fine, prove it". Which is where forensic source code analysis comes in. Then, going for broke, he's basically claiming that because SQ42 is still in development, that it couldn't possibly be a breach of the GLA. I don't even. With each new filing, all they are doing is giving the judge grounds to deny their motion in its entirety, thus setting the case for discovery and a subsequent trial (barring a settlement). As infantile and unprofessional as their responses have been, this one takes the loving cake. ----------------
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:17 |
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D_Smart posted:It's loving amazing in its incompetence. because its 2018 and we all know that nothing matters anymore so just you watch, the judge will dismiss the case because that would be the dumbest outcome here
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:24 |
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This would be an interesting argument to make were this a motion for summary judgment. It's not! You cannot claim there's no case by deciding it on its merits on a Motion to Dismiss! These are things you have to decide with a trial because there's a genuine controversy as to law and the facts. This is not the place to make such arguments, all Crytek has to do is allege that there is a breach of the contract and the case can go forward because that's the entire loving point of the lawsuit in the first place.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:25 |
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Is there a Greek legend about a man who tries to piss on a fire and Zeus curses him to never be able to stop pissing and also his piss is now gasoline? Because if there is I'm really surprised by how well it lines up with what's happening here. Really makes you think.
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# ? Jan 27, 2018 16:35 |